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bontez
Profile Joined March 2010
United States165 Posts
March 18 2014 23:52 GMT
#441
Yes! so awesome of TL
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 18 2014 23:53 GMT
#442
On March 19 2014 08:47 EchOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:40 sagi wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:12 Noocta wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:46 bo1b wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:38 Noocta wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:34 bo1b wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:29 SolidMoose wrote:
I never would have guessed this would happen in a million years, but it's awesome. Although I'm sad all over again this game never got to be put online, especially with the much improved netcode fighting games have had lately. I would play it everyday.

Could Melee ever really be done over the internet? It's such a quick game, where people don't play on lcds because there is a frame or so of lag on them, that I just can't see a reality in which there isn't too much lag to play over the internet. Every 16.66.. ms is equivalent to 1 frames delay just by the by, and I just can't see a solution that would work to get rid of it.

But holy shit I wish there was one, I'd love to be able to play online :D


People hit 1 frame links online.
People play KOF 13 online.

It's not ideal conditions but heh..

I'm going to piss people off with this but meh... melee is way way way way faster then kof, sf4, mvsc. Not that they don't have things requiring frame perfect timings either. How on earth do you play a fighter with 14 frames of lag


I'm a SF4 player and I agree with you. Melee is frantic and way faster. It's pretty close to kof13 tho as far as rhythm goes.
But heh, not having a strong online mean people try to get together more. If you have the drive of the Smash community, it's not the lack of online play that will stop you.



Sorry for my ignorance, but how do you practice this game (or other fighting games) as a progamer if online is out of the question?

Naturally you can start playing with your friends in the beginning. The problem I see is when you start to get really good, do you just pray there's another talent living in your neighborhood? Do these gamers have team houses? Can you train against an AI to some extent?

Generally your best practice resource are the people geographically nearby. Today, with modern social media, finding players and events is not difficult, though obviously some areas have a higher density of competitive players than others. I don't know of team houses at the moment.

Other people have mentioned how online is suboptimal, and the AI is too weak to even approach practice.

Going to tournaments or meetings is the best method. Playing vs lvl 1 computer works pretty well for technical things, then you can utilize some creativity.

Finland at least has a huge scene, I don't really know how it would work without a large scene. We have 50+ player tournaments many times a year.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Niteblade_
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada292 Posts
March 18 2014 23:54 GMT
#443
So sick. I used to play melee all the time with friends in high school. Even went to Canadian nationals one year (to money match and watch, not compete lol) good times.

This makes me hope that perhaps cs go (or at least a forum) is next? It's growing huge in viewers hip and as an export. (200k for katowice, doubling the last big dream hack in viewership)
"As Dendi and xboct were walking off stage, I hope Dendi was saying 'Man I can't believe we won that game that way, we are such a bunch of assholes"- James "2GD" Harding on Na'vi vs Tongfu
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
March 18 2014 23:55 GMT
#444
Oh my holy fucking WHAT.

I did not ever even let myself dream that this day might come. <3 TL so much.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 19 2014 00:00 GMT
#445
I can still remember when myself and a couple other guys were the only decent players in Finland and there was no youtube yet in 2003-2004, so videos were pretty rare. We heard about this Ken guy all the time but there was just about no material available.

Then these videos came out:



And I know I watched this specific video at least 50 times being completely amazed at many things. Actually, watching this again, I still have this video memorized completely, knowing what % counts the players are at and what is going to happen next. Pretty amazing to think about.

Fun times, nice to see how much the game has evolved. For example this video right now is ... well, very outdated, I imagine most people over here could effortlessly defeat the players in the video. Still, it's nice to sometimes think about where it begun, at least from Finland's perspective. Me and around 3 others were the primary frontrunners of the Finnish scene.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
March 19 2014 00:01 GMT
#446
WATLOLOLOLOLOLOLOWAAAAAAAAAT!?!?!?!??!!?!??!
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
March 19 2014 00:02 GMT
#447
DOTA2 * Starcraft 2 * Melee

...Hearthstone?
Mvrio
Profile Joined July 2011
689 Posts
March 19 2014 00:04 GMT
#448
links of Ken on Survivor? I completely forgot he was on the show, did he introduce himself as a former pro player or just a normal guy?
On October 03 2011 Jinsho wrote: Everyone is just a speck of fly dirt on the wall compared to Greg playing at his best :D
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 19 2014 00:07 GMT
#449
On March 19 2014 08:46 SolidMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:12 Noocta wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:46 bo1b wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:38 Noocta wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:34 bo1b wrote:
On March 19 2014 07:29 SolidMoose wrote:
I never would have guessed this would happen in a million years, but it's awesome. Although I'm sad all over again this game never got to be put online, especially with the much improved netcode fighting games have had lately. I would play it everyday.

Could Melee ever really be done over the internet? It's such a quick game, where people don't play on lcds because there is a frame or so of lag on them, that I just can't see a reality in which there isn't too much lag to play over the internet. Every 16.66.. ms is equivalent to 1 frames delay just by the by, and I just can't see a solution that would work to get rid of it.

But holy shit I wish there was one, I'd love to be able to play online :D


People hit 1 frame links online.
People play KOF 13 online.

It's not ideal conditions but heh..

I'm going to piss people off with this but meh... melee is way way way way faster then kof, sf4, mvsc. Not that they don't have things requiring frame perfect timings either. How on earth do you play a fighter with 14 frames of lag


I'm a SF4 player and I agree with you. Melee is frantic and way faster. It's pretty close to kof13 tho as far as rhythm goes.
But heh, not having a strong online mean people try to get together more. If you have the drive of the Smash community, it's not the lack of online play that will stop you.



EDIT- When I said online I don't mean the crap that currently exists. I mean something actually decent like modern fighters have which ARE playable with 1 frame timings as others have mentioned.

When you have a full time job and/or don't live in a good smash area it does make a difference. Online play is also one of those things that lets new players who have never touched it get a taste of it. Otherwise most people don't get to really enjoy the right level of competition. I mean, try imagining BW without online.


Well, good luck with that then, because online is always tested in Japan, and you know Japan's Internet and the rest of the world's internet is a world of difference.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19204 Posts
March 19 2014 00:08 GMT
#450
He introduced himself as a professional gamer, but kept it kind of general (or at least the general stuff is what made it past the editors to air).
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
March 19 2014 00:11 GMT
#451
On March 19 2014 03:02 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Today is not april fools day?


This news made me as stupid as actually checking the date to be sure it's not April 1st. HYPE HYPE.

If there's anything that I can still play after years it's this gem of a game.
"Suum Cuique" - Cicero
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
March 19 2014 00:11 GMT
#452
On March 19 2014 09:02 MrSexington wrote:
DOTA2 * Starcraft 2 * Melee

...Hearthstone?

Don't they already have an HS team?
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
March 19 2014 00:13 GMT
#453
On March 19 2014 09:11 Ettick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 09:02 MrSexington wrote:
DOTA2 * Starcraft 2 * Melee

...Hearthstone?

Don't they already have an HS team?

We don't.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19204 Posts
March 19 2014 00:14 GMT
#454
Just a wiki
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
March 19 2014 00:14 GMT
#455
On March 19 2014 09:13 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 09:11 Ettick wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:02 MrSexington wrote:
DOTA2 * Starcraft 2 * Melee

...Hearthstone?

Don't they already have an HS team?

We don't.


The liquid hearth guys were wearing TL shirts and Seatstory for funzies?

Confused me.
Scortch
Profile Joined March 2014
Germany1 Post
March 19 2014 00:17 GMT
#456
This are just amazing news! so hyped !
Paradoxium
Profile Joined March 2014
United States3 Posts
March 19 2014 00:18 GMT
#457
Sup guys, if you want to better understand competitive melee i suggest you watch the documentary, along with these videos
M2K vs Shiz


Wombo Combo


How to play competitively


The smash bros forums
http://smashboards.com/

On a side note im so hyped to see The King of Smash return, along with ma boy KDJ, 2 legends joining the best gaming team on Earth.


I'm from Smashboards, long time Sc2 and Ssb player
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-19 00:18:59
March 19 2014 00:18 GMT
#458
On March 19 2014 09:14 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 09:13 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:11 Ettick wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:02 MrSexington wrote:
DOTA2 * Starcraft 2 * Melee

...Hearthstone?

Don't they already have an HS team?

We don't.


The liquid hearth guys were wearing TL shirts and Seatstory for funzies?

Confused me.

Just monk and no patches

There's an association with Liquid Value but not more at the moment.
Administrator
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
March 19 2014 00:21 GMT
#459
Coolest thing ever, COOLEST THING EVER. THE FUCKING COOLEST THING EVER!!
Sc2 always got your back
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
March 19 2014 00:21 GMT
#460
On March 19 2014 09:13 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 09:11 Ettick wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:02 MrSexington wrote:
DOTA2 * Starcraft 2 * Melee

...Hearthstone?

Don't they already have an HS team?

We don't.


To round it off they need a CS:GO team and they are golden. #Biceps
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