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On June 11 2013 12:10 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On June 11 2013 12:08 beefhamburger wrote:
It all depends what comes in the basic console retail package (controllers, HDD, memory, games, online membership, etc.). That 100$ could be attributed to a lot of things that one or the other already included in their package that the other doesn't. That $100 is moot compared to the functions of online play, social mobility etc. Hell I'd pay 500 for the ps4 over the xbox due to many of their stances on things like DRM and always online. Not to mention the far superior hardware.
You may have to, $399 will probably just be the bare bones version, no controllers, no included game, etc all that stuff that. There might be different versions with different hard drive sizes etc... But xbox will do all the same so its a moot point.
All in all, I think microsoft just got bodied.
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On June 11 2013 12:12 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:11 Stratos_speAr wrote:On June 11 2013 12:08 Mania[K]al wrote:On June 11 2013 12:06 amazingxkcd wrote:On June 11 2013 12:05 Mania[K]al wrote:
Still trying to figure out what i would even play on the PS4 if i bought one. ![[image loading]](http://www.artlyst.com/img/events/342.jpg) Nah all the multiplatform games have always been better on Xbox. And Sony showed all of 3 exclusives? Nice cheap price though, so in a year or so when i decide to play FF18 i can pick one up easy Better on Xbox? The PS4 has better graphics and is undoubtedly a more reliable machine (with the XBox consistently being the most error-prone console out there). He means past generation. Which is true, generally speaking multiplatform games had better performance on Xbox 360.
Which had to do with the way PS3 was build with the Cell system. Exclusives for PS3 look alot better than Xbox360's
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On June 11 2013 12:07 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Seriously, is there any benefit of buying an Xbox one over a PS4? killer instinct
Even though it's Killer Instinct, based on Rare's recent history with Banjo Kazooie, they might mess it up somehow.
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Trusting Pachter isn't the best idea normally.
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On June 11 2013 12:13 Ideas wrote:
I'm trying to think of any new PS4 exclusives that cool. The Order seemed neat but that wasn't actual gameplay at all so who knows how that will turn out. Killzone looks like just another generic console FPS, I don't really know what Knack is, Infamous could turn out well, car game is car game, quantum dream game is quantum dream "game", and those indie games might look really cool (couldn't really tell since they only showed them for like 15 seconds a piece, but they will presumably mostly all coming to PC also). Am I missing anything? the Square games are coming to Xbone as well, right?
Pretty much how i feel as well. really only 1 exclusive new IP (The Order) and virtually everything else is multiplatform.
Of those other 2 exclusives, they looked like past generation games pushed to the new one. Im not to worried though, Sony always has good libraries, even if it takes a while.
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also everyone noticed that you now how to pay for PS+ for multiplayer, right?
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wait so again can someone confirm for me that PS4 has backwards compatibility?
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welp all that's left then is hopefully for nintendo to try and follow this up by showing a lot of 1st party games tomorrow
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On June 11 2013 12:12 Iblis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:05 Mania[K]al wrote:
Still trying to figure out what i would even play on the PS4 if i bought one. Fan of RPG, fantasy? Kingdom hearts 3, FF15 Fan of action, open world? Assassin's creed, Infamous, Watch dogs Fan of fps? Killzone Bored and some time to kill? Find some funny looking indie game and have fun.
KH is the only positive from all that. Most others are multiplatform. Killzone is just bad.
Going to have to see is PSN is still shitty and how many more people are on XBL comparatively. All these games coming out are mostly MP and persistent worlds, population will be a factor and XBL has always had more people.
Pretty happy with Sony overall, finally.
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On June 11 2013 12:16 Darpa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:13 Ideas wrote:
I'm trying to think of any new PS4 exclusives that cool. The Order seemed neat but that wasn't actual gameplay at all so who knows how that will turn out. Killzone looks like just another generic console FPS, I don't really know what Knack is, Infamous could turn out well, car game is car game, quantum dream game is quantum dream "game", and those indie games might look really cool (couldn't really tell since they only showed them for like 15 seconds a piece, but they will presumably mostly all coming to PC also). Am I missing anything? the Square games are coming to Xbone as well, right? Pretty much how i feel as well. really only 1 exclusive new IP (The Order) and virtually everything else is multiplatform. Of those other 2 exclusives, they looked like past generation games pushed to the new one. Im not to worried though, Sony always has good libraries, even if it takes a while.
I'm buying both so... Kinect is an advantage for MS, used games an advantage for PS...thats the bottom line. More similar than dissimilar.
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On June 11 2013 12:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
wait so again can someone confirm for me that PS4 has backwards compatibility?
Extremely doubtful with the cell structure of PS3 . In february it was mentioned maybe in the future with Gakai streaming but thats still in the works.
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On June 11 2013 12:15 imJealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:10 Infernal_dream wrote:On June 11 2013 12:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On June 11 2013 12:08 beefhamburger wrote:
It all depends what comes in the basic console retail package (controllers, HDD, memory, games, online membership, etc.). That 100$ could be attributed to a lot of things that one or the other already included in their package that the other doesn't. That $100 is moot compared to the functions of online play, social mobility etc. Hell I'd pay 500 for the ps4 over the xbox due to many of their stances on things like DRM and always online. Not to mention the far superior hardware. You may have to, $399 will probably just be the bare bones version, no controllers, no included game, etc all that stuff that. There might be different versions with different hard drive sizes etc... But xbox will do all the same so its a moot point. All in all, I think microsoft just got bodied.
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_tr_sr_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370920616&sr=8-1&keywords=playstation 4
Has the full specs outside of the size of the HDD.
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On June 11 2013 12:17 Ideas wrote:
also everyone noticed that you now how to pay for PS+ for multiplayer, right?
I don't think you have to pay to play multi. They said "full immersion" so it's gotta be a premium upgrade on the default free stuff.
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the internals of the ps4 arent too expensive.
the most expensive would be
the bd drive, which sony pretty much can mfg for next to nothing.
the hard drive,
the 8gb gddr5 which no one really has an idea what the cost of that is
but most of the cost savings come from the APU, which is cpu+gpu in one chip, saves immensely on mfg yields, and having integrated components instead of separate packages for a classic separate cpu/gpu setup. the cpu is based on amd's budget cpu (which you often find in those cheap ass $300 laptops), and the gpu amd has been mfging for what, two years now.
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On June 11 2013 12:18 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
wait so again can someone confirm for me that PS4 has backwards compatibility? Extremely doubtful with the cell structure of PS3 . In february it was mentioned maybe in the future with Gakai streaming but thats still in the works.
it was just announced in the conference that there's the ability to stream ps3 games through cloud-based gaming
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The PS4 is not backwards compatible.
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On June 11 2013 12:15 imJealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2013 12:10 Infernal_dream wrote:On June 11 2013 12:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On June 11 2013 12:08 beefhamburger wrote:
It all depends what comes in the basic console retail package (controllers, HDD, memory, games, online membership, etc.). That 100$ could be attributed to a lot of things that one or the other already included in their package that the other doesn't. That $100 is moot compared to the functions of online play, social mobility etc. Hell I'd pay 500 for the ps4 over the xbox due to many of their stances on things like DRM and always online. Not to mention the far superior hardware. You may have to, $399 will probably just be the bare bones version, no controllers, no included game, etc all that stuff that. There might be different versions with different hard drive sizes etc... But xbox will do all the same so its a moot point. All in all, I think microsoft just got bodied.
When have they ever priced the console without the bare essentials to play (controllers/cords/etc.)?
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On June 11 2013 12:17 Ideas wrote:
also everyone noticed that you now how to pay for PS+ for multiplayer, right?
Not really, PS+ "improves" the experience, but you can still access PSN for free.
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On June 11 2013 12:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
wait so again can someone confirm for me that PS4 has backwards compatibility?
It will through Gaikai technology, so you may end up needing to buy the games again. They didnt really specify, just that PS3 games will be available to use on the PS4 (and other sources, as they mentioned tablets too)
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