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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
April 30 2013 06:00 GMT
#1241
Damn, Westbro not being there really making an impact. Apparently OKC really is just Durant+Westbrook lol.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 30 2013 06:05 GMT
#1242
Rockets almost one one game when he was there too. The difference is that KD has to play a ton more minutes to keep it about even.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 11:35:52
April 30 2013 11:35 GMT
#1243
how does reggie jackson end up with more fga than durant? smh
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 30 2013 12:01 GMT
#1244
On April 30 2013 20:35 a176 wrote:
how does reggie jackson end up with more fga than durant? smh

On April 30 2013 13:53 Jibba wrote:
I wish there was a supplemental stat to FGAs that includes defensive fouls and offensive TOs and stuff. Like a cumulative "Scoring Attempt" stat.


Durant drew a lot of shooting fouls. He definitely took more actual shot attempts, they're just not recorded in the stats. :/
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 30 2013 12:50 GMT
#1245
Nobody has ever come back from 3-0 to win a series, but the Rockets do have a little bit of hope in stretching the series out since all the games except for the first have been close and Harden hasn't had a great game yet, while Durant has been on fire. Granted Durant is just better than Harden, but still the Rockets haven't had a game where they were great shooting as a team, or where Harden just carried them. Honestly they won that game despite Harden playing terrible by all star standards.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 30 2013 13:17 GMT
#1246
Uh... Harden played terrible by Charlotte Bobcats standards.
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hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
April 30 2013 13:37 GMT
#1247
Jesus Serge, that was the easiest shot of all time -_____-
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
April 30 2013 13:41 GMT
#1248
On April 30 2013 22:17 Jibba wrote:
Uh... Harden played terrible by Charlotte Bobcats standards.


Hey it was a double double performance!
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
April 30 2013 13:52 GMT
#1249
On April 30 2013 22:37 hootsushi wrote:
Jesus Serge, that was the easiest shot of all time -_____-

ya even jibba could have made that shot
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 30 2013 16:36 GMT
#1250
Haven't been in here for a while; but just letting you all know, I still stand by my George Karl statement.
liftlift > tsm
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
April 30 2013 17:01 GMT
#1251
serge really not playing well. what happened to the 1 3ptm, 18 pt, 10 reb, 4 block monster he was at times during the season. he even got 32 minutes. someone has to really step it up for OKC to have a chance in the next round otherwise they're gonna get crushed. losing WB is killing them.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 30 2013 17:16 GMT
#1252
Scoring wise he relied on Westbrook a lot to generate him easy points, not really surprising that his production has gone down since then. 4 Blocks is misleading because all you have to do is pump-fake any time he's near you and you'll get him in the air.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
April 30 2013 18:47 GMT
#1253
Zach Lowe with some good stuff today: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9225802/players-shane-battier-harder-find-conventional-wisdom-suggests

Talks a lot about how defenses and player-values have changed since 2008 and 3-pointers, some points I've been harping on a few pages ago.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1254
On May 01 2013 03:47 MassHysteria wrote:
Zach Lowe with some good stuff today: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9225802/players-shane-battier-harder-find-conventional-wisdom-suggests

Talks a lot about how defenses and player-values have changed since 2008 and 3-pointers, some points I've been harping on a few pages ago.

That sounds about right; been a huge fan of Battier's play style for a long long time.

Never understood what took NBA so long to understand 3pt > 2pters; it's a matter of point efficiency.
liftlift > tsm
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 21:53:46
April 30 2013 21:52 GMT
#1255
I think maybe it was just players feeling comfortable with it.

From the '94 season to '95, the average 3PA per team jumped by 50%, 400+. Maybe that's the generation after the Fab Five entering the NBA and making their impact?

Then it dropped by 200~ or so in the late 90s and early 00s, and has since climbed up. Maybe the drop is from all the terrible iso combo guard play with the Iverson's, Marbury's, Stackhouse's, McGrady's, etc.? Not sure.

The Warriors are actually below average in 3PA. In fact, the top 5 teams are the Knicks, Rockets, Lakers, Blazers and Hawks. Not exactly world beaters.

What's interesting is that the top 3pt shooters haven't really changed in quantity or accuracy for quite some time. Steph Curry led the league this year with 600 3PA, but multiple guys were crossing 600 in the mid-90s. George McCloud took 678, John Starks took 611, Dennis Scott took 628. The 10th place guys' numbers look the same too. 40%+ has been a regular thing among the top 10 for 20 years now as well.

I think there's just more players who are able to do it than ever before. I don't know if you blame teams or coaches when the players weren't equipped to do it.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 30 2013 22:23 GMT
#1256
The fact that the Lakers were in the top 5 is astonishing.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 30 2013 22:27 GMT
#1257
need the right skillsets (players) + the right offenses to run high 3 point shooting. You would get killed trying to do it 6 or 7 years ago because there weren't enough dominant perimeter threats on the league to open it for you, and the league just got out of the "chuck like hell and be inefficient" wing stage.

Lots of coaches have tried 3 pt centric offense in the past but its just easier to do now since the talent is there and the basic pet plays have been copied.
T
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 22:35:10
April 30 2013 22:28 GMT
#1258
On May 01 2013 07:23 Jerubaal wrote:
The fact that the Lakers were in the top 5 is astonishing.

Not really. They played at a top 5 pace, so they just got more shots out than most teams. In addition, like I have said before, this 3-pt trend and PnR trend with shooters in the corners can all be traced back somewhat to D'Antoni. Or at the very least, we can't deny that his style of coaching is perfect for this new, modern NBA.

Agree with Ace above.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
April 30 2013 22:55 GMT
#1259
Plus, let's be real (in a joking way for a bit). Even into the end of the 90's and maybe early 00's, everyone knew to not leave the white guy on the perimeter open. Why? The white guy is the shooter! Well, now that is becoming extinct, because everyone is becoming a better shooter.

You can teach a black man how to shoot. You can't teach a white man how to jump. =p
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 30 2013 23:03 GMT
#1260
rofl
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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