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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 19 2013 02:53 GMT
#3081
oh well good season
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
May 19 2013 02:53 GMT
#3082
This playoffs have really exposed Woodson as not a really good coach.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 19 2013 02:55 GMT
#3083
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AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
May 19 2013 02:56 GMT
#3084
On May 19 2013 11:53 N1k0 wrote:
This playoffs have really exposed Woodson as not a really good coach.


Your not really blessed as a coach with Melo, JR and Felton as the main guys on your team either.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 19 2013 03:02 GMT
#3085
That Hibbert block, completely changed the game. Lance got a lay up on the other end after that to tie the game and the Pacers never looked back. Lance will get a lot of the credit tonight, rightfully so, but Hibbert was a beast on both ends of the court.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 19 2013 03:04 GMT
#3086
On May 19 2013 11:53 N1k0 wrote:
This playoffs have really exposed Woodson as not a really good coach.

I think he's made the Knicks better. He may not be a top 5 coach, but he's still probably top 10. They really just don't have great pieces to work with. Amare is broken and the 3rd-5th best players on the team are Smith, Felton, and... Shumpert? Maybe Novak if he's not injured? Compared to Hill, West and Stephenson.

I think JR Smith just completed the worst mass shooting performance in a playoff series ever. 26-90.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 03:39:23
May 19 2013 03:09 GMT
#3087
On May 19 2013 07:57 Holcan wrote:
dude jumped from the free throw line, and made a world famous logo from it, who underrates him as an athlete? x.x

Dont see what his brand has to do with it (though it does increase his legacy) but I would say he is underrated sometimes, specially as we get further from his era. At least among the crazies here who say kobe>mj.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 19 2013 03:13 GMT
#3088
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2013 03:16 GMT
#3089
On May 19 2013 11:52 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 11:34 Ace wrote:
Mike Woodson is a moron

On May 19 2013 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:
Melo pulling a Durant; no where to be found in the clutch.


Who cares about clutch? Dude is ultra efficient scoring this game which is what they needed from him. I think he's overrated but can't blame him for the way things have largely gone.


I'm sorry but this is an absurd statement. There is literally nothing more important than "the clutch." Yes, his teammates let him down and Yes he put them in a position so that the situation can even be considered clutch because they have a chance of winning, but it means all of jack shit if they don't actually win the game because nobody can score at the very end when they need it.

Lebron got shit for years because he wasn't closing games.

Doesn't matter in the end though because the way this Knicks team is built they can never be successful. Too old and too selfish.


No, learn the game first. All 48 minutes are equally important.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 03:18:07
May 19 2013 03:17 GMT
#3090
On May 19 2013 11:52 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 11:34 Ace wrote:
Mike Woodson is a moron

On May 19 2013 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:
Melo pulling a Durant; no where to be found in the clutch.


Who cares about clutch? Dude is ultra efficient scoring this game which is what they needed from him. I think he's overrated but can't blame him for the way things have largely gone.


I'm sorry but this is an absurd statement. There is literally nothing more important than "the clutch." Yes, his teammates let him down and Yes he put them in a position so that the situation can even be considered clutch because they have a chance of winning, but it means all of jack shit if they don't actually win the game because nobody can score at the very end when they need it.

Lebron got shit for years because he wasn't closing games.

Because sports journalists tend to be idiots.

Lebron still has less clutch moments than someone like Kobe, because he closes out games by midway in the 4th quarter. Kobe, on the other hand, is perceived as clutch because he has so many moments, even though his team was in the situation because of his poor shooting before the last few minutes. In this case, Carmelo had a pretty great game and a fantastic 3rd quarter that put the Knicks in the situation. The defense tightened up and it made it more difficult for everyone, yet he was still finding open teammates. His 4th quarter wasn't that bad at all.

"Clutch" is the most overrated label in the league.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 19 2013 03:20 GMT
#3091
I always find the notion of clutch hilarious because the widely recognized GOAT, MJ himself didn't have many of them. Especially the 72-10 version who blew teams out by halftime. Great players avoid clutch moments as much as possible.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 19 2013 03:30 GMT
#3092
On May 19 2013 11:52 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 11:34 Ace wrote:
Mike Woodson is a moron

On May 19 2013 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:
Melo pulling a Durant; no where to be found in the clutch.


Who cares about clutch? Dude is ultra efficient scoring this game which is what they needed from him. I think he's overrated but can't blame him for the way things have largely gone.


I'm sorry but this is an absurd statement. There is literally nothing more important than "the clutch." Yes, his teammates let him down and Yes he put them in a position so that the situation can even be considered clutch because they have a chance of winning, but it means all of jack shit if they don't actually win the game because nobody can score at the very end when they need it.

Lebron got shit for years because he wasn't closing games.

Doesn't matter in the end though because the way this Knicks team is built they can never be successful. Too old and too selfish.

I thought the TL NBA thread was over the whole "clutch" stupidity. Guess I was wrong.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 19 2013 03:34 GMT
#3093
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 19 2013 03:37 GMT
#3094
On May 19 2013 12:20 Ace wrote:
I always find the notion of clutch hilarious because the widely recognized GOAT, MJ himself didn't have many of them. Especially the 72-10 version who blew teams out by halftime. Great players avoid clutch moments as much as possible.

Well, MJ's record on game winning playoff shots was still pretty absurd. 9-18. The funny thing is that he got worse as he won champions. Obviously it's such a small sample size that it doesn't mean anything, but he was 4-6 before winning a championship and 5-12 after. Just goes to show how much being clutch meant to his and the Bulls' run. They probably still would've won 6 championships if he'd only made like 2-15 or 3-14 of those shots.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 03:44:08
May 19 2013 03:42 GMT
#3095
On May 19 2013 12:34 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 12:17 Jibba wrote:
On May 19 2013 11:52 On_Slaught wrote:
On May 19 2013 11:34 Ace wrote:
Mike Woodson is a moron

On May 19 2013 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:
Melo pulling a Durant; no where to be found in the clutch.


Who cares about clutch? Dude is ultra efficient scoring this game which is what they needed from him. I think he's overrated but can't blame him for the way things have largely gone.


I'm sorry but this is an absurd statement. There is literally nothing more important than "the clutch." Yes, his teammates let him down and Yes he put them in a position so that the situation can even be considered clutch because they have a chance of winning, but it means all of jack shit if they don't actually win the game because nobody can score at the very end when they need it.

Lebron got shit for years because he wasn't closing games.

Because sports journalists tend to be idiots.

Lebron still has less clutch moments than someone like Kobe, because he closes out games by midway in the 4th quarter. Kobe, on the other hand, is perceived as clutch because he has so many moments, even though his team was in the situation because of his poor shooting before the last few minutes. In this case, Carmelo had a pretty great game and a fantastic 3rd quarter that put the Knicks in the situation. The defense tightened up and it made it more difficult for everyone, yet he was still finding open teammates. His 4th quarter wasn't that bad at all.

"Clutch" is the most overrated label in the league.


I thought melo was pretty bad in the 4th. Got beat on alot of rebounds, missed alot of shots, made two key turnovers, etc.

You're right, the 3 TOs is pretty bad, and I misread the shot chart on ESPN. Thought the hoop was a bucket. :X



There's the block. So little effort to go after the ball or pressure George after it happened.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 19 2013 03:55 GMT
#3096
On May 19 2013 11:52 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 11:34 Ace wrote:
Mike Woodson is a moron

On May 19 2013 11:33 On_Slaught wrote:
Melo pulling a Durant; no where to be found in the clutch.


Who cares about clutch? Dude is ultra efficient scoring this game which is what they needed from him. I think he's overrated but can't blame him for the way things have largely gone.


I'm sorry but this is an absurd statement. There is literally nothing more important than "the clutch." Yes, his teammates let him down and Yes he put them in a position so that the situation can even be considered clutch because they have a chance of winning, but it means all of jack shit if they don't actually win the game because nobody can score at the very end when they need it.

Lebron got shit for years because he wasn't closing games.

Doesn't matter in the end though because the way this Knicks team is built they can never be successful. Too old and too selfish.


You're so backwards on your clutch philosophy. Would your prefer the reverse? That he shoot 20% in the first 25 shots then 75% on his next 5? Simply due to the quarter of when those shots happen to occur?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 19 2013 03:58 GMT
#3097
Fun Facts about the owners of the remaining 4 teams:

Miami Heat- Mickey Arison; CEO of Carnival Cruiselines
Indiana Pacers- Herb Simon; Simon Property Group (the mall people)
San Antonio Spurs- Peter Holt; Caterpillar dealer
Memphis Grizzlies- Michael Pera; some tech company, idk idgaf
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 19 2013 04:14 GMT
#3098
Melo was hitting some ridiculously tough shots in the first three quarters. For the most part, Paul George was playing Melo pretty damn well. But he was hitting the shots. PG kept the defense up in the fourth and Melo just wasn't hitting the same shots. Blaming this loss on him is crazy.

If the Knicks want to blame someone, look right at JR Smith. Dude was sixth man of the year for the Pacers this series.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 19 2013 04:20 GMT
#3099
Urm..Jason Kidd played 70 minutes in this series and did slightly less than nothing. Tyson Chandler was bad, Iman Shumpert was bad, JR Smith was bad - they were all bad.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
May 19 2013 04:25 GMT
#3100
On May 19 2013 12:37 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 12:20 Ace wrote:
I always find the notion of clutch hilarious because the widely recognized GOAT, MJ himself didn't have many of them. Especially the 72-10 version who blew teams out by halftime. Great players avoid clutch moments as much as possible.

Well, MJ's record on game winning playoff shots was still pretty absurd. 9-18. The funny thing is that he got worse as he won champions. Obviously it's such a small sample size that it doesn't mean anything, but he was 4-6 before winning a championship and 5-12 after. Just goes to show how much being clutch meant to his and the Bulls' run. They probably still would've won 6 championships if he'd only made like 2-15 or 3-14 of those shots.

Ya, plus it's kind of gibberish when you consider he was 6 for 6 on finals series with no game 7's needed for any of them. Then he never scored less than 20 points in any of the finals games. Too sick.

In a way, LBJ has already lost the battle when he lost to the Mavs
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
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