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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 22:27:54
May 15 2013 22:24 GMT
#2821
Well we're making a big assumption about who's fault the offensive woes are. Woodson, of course, has to take the final blame, but, as similar as this is to the Atlanta teams, is it really so much different than the Nuggets teams?

Bebe- you misunderstand. They aren't saying that Melo is a 6th man. They're saying that no team with him as the primary option is going to win a championship (or likely get to a CF).

Also, not playing Copeland and Novak more at this point is criminal.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 23:04:57
May 15 2013 22:44 GMT
#2822
Melo is a max contract player on a sub-championship level team. His best asset for a team is his marketing potential which may, in fact, make him worth the money, but he's not worth the money if you're going for championships.

This Knicks team isn't competing with the Heat with Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich or Pat Riley as their coach. It's an old team built without a real offensive system in mind, and when it did have an offensive system, youth and room to grow, that was all scrapped in order to get Carmelo. Now they've got stars and little to no cohesion.

He is a chucker and Woodson calls them, in part, because that's how he plays. How many seasons in a row do they have to go through this for people to realize it? He's not quite the black hole he was during most of his time in Denver, but he still tends to be a ball stopper and he doesn't open up their perimeter shooters as well as Felton/Chandler PnRs do (although the Pacers are great against it.) If you're going to live and die with Carmelo going off while taking difficult shots, you're going to do a whole lot of dying.

It's funny that Knicks fans keep citing the Pacers defense as unbreakable, as if Wade/Bryant/Jordan and Lebron never had to play stingy and even more physical defenses. This isn't something isolated to this specific team (although the Knicks roster was poorly put together.) His eFG % in the playoffs is a good 5% lower than those superstars throughout their careers.

The team's offensive rating is actually higher without him on the floor, this post-season.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 15 2013 23:49 GMT
#2823
BULLS BACK IN THIS
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 15 2013 23:57 GMT
#2824
Dystopia, don't you know that every time the Heat don't blow a team out of the water, it's just because they were feeling bored or charitable?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 16 2013 00:04 GMT
#2825
So my dad thought Cliff Paul was real. He also though Blake Griffin was a race car driver.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 16 2013 00:04 GMT
#2826
On May 16 2013 08:57 Jerubaal wrote:
Dystopia, don't you know that every time the Heat don't blow a team out of the water, it's just because they were feeling bored or charitable?

One can dream.
I don't think any team is charitable enough to go like 6/22 over an entire quarter.
Good to see Nate Robinson finding the damn basket again too.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 00:21:42
May 16 2013 00:21 GMT
#2827
Just caught the last seconds of the first half on the radio.

Is it true the Heat were up 18 points in the first quarter but are now down 6? Dah fuck Miami? You're playing a team that couldn't beat the Lakers atm and they are showing you up at home. Embarassing.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 00:23:40
May 16 2013 00:23 GMT
#2828
Boozer's playing great, Robinson is back to making ridiculous shots and Chalmers, Battier and Allen are missing open 3's.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
May 16 2013 00:28 GMT
#2829
On May 16 2013 06:57 Jibba wrote:
He'll never agree to it. He sees himself as an equal with Lebron and Wade.


How many years do you figure Wade can still play at a top level? The knee issues seem to be recurring and a big part of his game is attacking the basket. As a Wade fan I definitely hold my breath everytime he comes down with a tumble and starts wincing lol
Huge iloveOov fan
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 16 2013 00:42 GMT
#2830
Butler making these ridiculous off te dribble fadeaways is the best thing.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 16 2013 00:43 GMT
#2831
Lebron time.
starleague forever
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13294 Posts
May 16 2013 00:56 GMT
#2832
Rip's corpse showing some retro game tonight.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 16 2013 00:56 GMT
#2833
I have no idea how rip Hamilton isn't dying on the court but once again, not complaining.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13294 Posts
May 16 2013 01:00 GMT
#2834
Wade gone now? Last man standing will win the Chip this year at this rate.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 01:09:04
May 16 2013 01:01 GMT
#2835
I'm still very confident the Heat will win this game, but holy hell... this Heat team is looking less and less scary. With Wade being a shell of himself they are going to have their hands full with the Pacers.

It feels like the only way the Bulls can score is some wild shot that magically goes down as the shot clock runs out. No way that can be maintained as the Heat lock down even more in the 4th.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 16 2013 01:08 GMT
#2836
Alpha Bro.



On a related side note, the Dubs have done well, but I can't see them winning this series :/
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 01:20:35
May 16 2013 01:18 GMT
#2837
Wade literally tackled Noah under the basket for a no call and they have the audacity to give a flagrant foul on the fast break? So fucked up.

Edit: Changed to common foul. The King Flopper didn't get his way lol.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
May 16 2013 01:20 GMT
#2838
Good job refs.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 16 2013 01:20 GMT
#2839
Lebron really sold that one
Yhamm is the god of predictions
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
May 16 2013 01:22 GMT
#2840
That was a fuckin amazing play by Cole, it must be the flat top
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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