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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
March 31 2013 21:40 GMT
#121
Can you like, evaluate what i said was wrong, lol.

Fanatiq doesn't play for money @ tourney games. Dude has repeatedly said he makes money in tourney from sidebets and money matches. Considering he won one single major in his 10+ years playing fighting games Im pretty sure it's correct lol.
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RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 22:12:22
March 31 2013 21:41 GMT
#122
On March 30 2013 14:04 che wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 13:18 RagequitBM wrote:
What's happening right now on the spooky stream? The only fighting game streams I've watched were Evo KoFXIII where CafeID dunked everyone, and some SSBM stream where Ken was casting, so I'm new to this stuff. Is this just state all-kill team tournament? I thought California is like a heavy favorite in fighting games.


If you were talking about the team tournament, it was to find out which region is the best internationally. The game they were playing was UMvC3, which is probably the most played fighting game at the moment. (If you're familiar with the arcades of old, you might remember Marvel 1 and 2).


Gotcha, thanks. Tekken tag is surprisingly fun to watch.

Are Cafe ID players the final bosses? This Knee guy seems tough in Tekken Tag. And they tossed everyone in the dumpster in KoF
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 31 2013 22:02 GMT
#123
On April 01 2013 06:40 O-ops wrote:
Can you like, evaluate what i said was wrong, lol.

Fanatiq doesn't play for money @ tourney games. Dude has repeatedly said he makes money in tourney from sidebets and money matches. Considering he won one single major in his 10+ years playing fighting games Im pretty sure it's correct lol.


You're right, but he's still motivated by money, because he's poor as hell. Just like most top players are. Your assessment of how much of their income comes from fighting games is just wrong, and none of the players you mentioned have day jobs. Hell, Justin hasn't worked in years. Yipes I'm not totally sure about, I know he does stuff for BT, but it's not exactly what you'd call a 9-5.

Glory is all good, but the players need to eat too, so I don't have a problem with Fanatiq throwing the match to help promote PDP or whatever. You're free to a different opinion, but don't go misrepresenting things claiming that these guys don't need/care about the money.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
March 31 2013 22:24 GMT
#124
Last year's SCR he said in the interview on stage after receiving his prizes that he's gonna go rest up because he has to work Monday. Yipes? He's totally able to support himself with all the dollars he got from winning like no majors ever since Marvel 3 is released right?

Money is good and all but if they don't have enough money from somewhere to sustain themselves first they wouldn't be able to pursue a gaming career in the first place, whether it be through stable sponsorship or a job. And these guys have jobs, 9-5 or w/e. Let's not be delusional here and imagine that the 5k pot or w/e for all the podium finishers in these monthly majors that realistically have 10 or more solid contenders for can actually sustain anyone but like 3 players in the US.

Also, how it is any benefical for pdp if you throw a match live and then tell other people you threw it to promote pdp? Only reputation you're gonna get your company is that your company is sponsoring a fraud and a match rigger.

And saying that money's important to them so it's ok to throw matches is like saying it's ok for Savior and all those b-teamers to throw matches to get more money. Like, come on, keep it real here and stop playing the devil advocate bullshit.
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 31 2013 23:10 GMT
#125
On April 01 2013 07:24 O-ops wrote:
Last year's SCR he said in the interview on stage after receiving his prizes that he's gonna go rest up because he has to work Monday. Yipes? He's totally able to support himself with all the dollars he got from winning like no majors ever since Marvel 3 is released right?

Money is good and all but if they don't have enough money from somewhere to sustain themselves first they wouldn't be able to pursue a gaming career in the first place, whether it be through stable sponsorship or a job. And these guys have jobs, 9-5 or w/e. Let's not be delusional here and imagine that the 5k pot or w/e for all the podium finishers in these monthly majors that realistically have 10 or more solid contenders for can actually sustain anyone but like 3 players in the US.

Also, how it is any benefical for pdp if you throw a match live and then tell other people you threw it to promote pdp? Only reputation you're gonna get your company is that your company is sponsoring a fraud and a match rigger.

And saying that money's important to them so it's ok to throw matches is like saying it's ok for Savior and all those b-teamers to throw matches to get more money. Like, come on, keep it real here and stop playing the devil advocate bullshit.


I don't know what to tell you, your statement about FGC players and jobs is factually inaccurate. If you're going to use 4 players as examples, then at least make sure you're right before you post. Your math of how much they make at majors is cool and all, but it doesn't change the facts. I'll agree that a lot of top players do have jobs, but you happened to pick 4 (3?) who don't, which kind of discredits your entire argument since it shows that you don't know anything.

Also, fixing matches is a lot different than throwing matches. Betting against yourself and then throwing should obviously be punished. Throwing a match because you don't want to win it, within the rules of the tournament, is another story, and is totally unenforceable, but I know I'm in the minority in this belief. I would still rather have the players be upfront about their splits than put on a fake show for the cameras.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 31 2013 23:11 GMT
#126
I guess for me the biggest factor is that Fanatiq doesn't believe he's good enough to compete. If that's the case, why the fuck is he in the tournament?
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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 31 2013 23:17 GMT
#127
On April 01 2013 08:11 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I guess for me the biggest factor is that Fanatiq doesn't believe he's good enough to compete. If that's the case, why the fuck is he in the tournament?


Yeah, well he makes most of his money through his sponsorship and money matches. And admitting you're worse than Chris G isn't exactly the same as admitting you can't compete. He knows he could beat Chris in a Bo5 sometimes, but Chris still has a much better chance of winning the tournament.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 31 2013 23:18 GMT
#128
But he's clearly not there to win.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-31 23:23:22
March 31 2013 23:23 GMT
#129
+ Show Spoiler [FR16] +
YO MOONS LETS GO. That set was sick. So hype holy shit
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
March 31 2013 23:25 GMT
#130
MOONZ WITH A Z DAWG
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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
March 31 2013 23:26 GMT
#131
mvc3 is such a mess, i cant follow the action one bit lol
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
March 31 2013 23:36 GMT
#132
On April 01 2013 08:11 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I guess for me the biggest factor is that Fanatiq doesn't believe he's good enough to compete. If that's the case, why the fuck is he in the tournament?


That's horseshit. He threw because he's salty at being banned. Fanatiq thinking he's not good enough to place? Since when does that ever happen?

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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
April 01 2013 00:14 GMT
#133
Moonz is so so so sick
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
April 01 2013 00:31 GMT
#134
Marvel kinda just looks like if you slip up once, one character gets 100 - 0'd.

Im sure that's just because I'm not familiar with the game though.
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
April 01 2013 00:37 GMT
#135
On April 01 2013 09:31 RagequitBM wrote:
Marvel kinda just looks like if you slip up once, one character gets 100 - 0'd.

Im sure that's just because I'm not familiar with the game though.


It's actually true if the other guy is good with the confirms and don't drop. Touch of death common here.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 01 2013 00:55 GMT
#136
It look very messy on the eye too.
The characters coming to do one hit and going back, the fact that sometimes one character fly so high you can't see the ennemy for a few seconds..
I think I need to play it but I have way too many ' what the hell is going on" moments when watching it. oO
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
April 01 2013 01:30 GMT
#137
All aboard the anti-hype train.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
April 01 2013 01:39 GMT
#138
On April 01 2013 08:36 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:11 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I guess for me the biggest factor is that Fanatiq doesn't believe he's good enough to compete. If that's the case, why the fuck is he in the tournament?


That's horseshit. He threw because he's salty at being banned. Fanatiq thinking he's not good enough to place? Since when does that ever happen?



Was that not the stated rationale for his throw? ChrisG is better than he is and has a better chance of repping AGE on the podium?
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
April 01 2013 03:30 GMT
#139
On April 01 2013 10:39 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 08:36 O-ops wrote:
On April 01 2013 08:11 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
I guess for me the biggest factor is that Fanatiq doesn't believe he's good enough to compete. If that's the case, why the fuck is he in the tournament?


That's horseshit. He threw because he's salty at being banned. Fanatiq thinking he's not good enough to place? Since when does that ever happen?



Was that not the stated rationale for his throw? ChrisG is better than he is and has a better chance of repping AGE on the podium?


It's really uncharacteristic of him (or anyone playing games, period) to just throw like that in a tourney, and the timing happens to coincide with him getting his ass banned from commentating on a TS stream for promoting AGE. Then he does this and goes "It's to have a better chance of repping AGE." Really? The way that reasoning sounds looks like someone just want to take a shot at Larry and Spooky.
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myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
April 02 2013 17:49 GMT
#140
On April 01 2013 06:41 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 14:04 che wrote:
On March 30 2013 13:18 RagequitBM wrote:
What's happening right now on the spooky stream? The only fighting game streams I've watched were Evo KoFXIII where CafeID dunked everyone, and some SSBM stream where Ken was casting, so I'm new to this stuff. Is this just state all-kill team tournament? I thought California is like a heavy favorite in fighting games.


If you were talking about the team tournament, it was to find out which region is the best internationally. The game they were playing was UMvC3, which is probably the most played fighting game at the moment. (If you're familiar with the arcades of old, you might remember Marvel 1 and 2).


Gotcha, thanks. Tekken tag is surprisingly fun to watch.

Are Cafe ID players the final bosses? This Knee guy seems tough in Tekken Tag. And they tossed everyone in the dumpster in KoF


Knee (and Nin) are korean tekken players comparable to Daigo in street fighter. Knee was mostly known for his bryan back in the T5 days
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