• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:41
CET 20:41
KST 04:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle What happened to TvZ on Retro? SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1946 users

Fighting Games 2013-14 [FGC] - Page 11

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 60 Next
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 17:01:29
April 28 2013 16:59 GMT
#201
On April 29 2013 01:36 myrmidon2537 wrote:
I don't have a transcript of that EVO PS3 issue, but I once saw on my twitter feed that shortly after this lag issue got discovered (APEX?) Wizard was like "Welp, we already bought the ps3s so deal with it" and said all UMvC3 matches on EVO take place only on training room stage (I guess to minimize lag?)

Still, if they committed to the ps3s for this year's evo, maybe they'd consider switching to 360 next year? But I kinda doubt it.


They've been committed to PS3 since 2009. Basically, they had a small amount (12) of PS3s for Tekken 5 from before SF4 had come out, and the difference between PS3 and 360 SF4 wasn't discovered/validated quickly enough before evo had to make the decision on whether to run on PS3 or 360. Since they didnt know about version differences and already had some PS3s, they just got more. If someone were to donate enough 360s to run it on, maybe it'd happen, but at this point it'd be too costly for them to switch.

Why do other tournaments run on ps3? Similar situation as the Evo one, but on a smaller scale. Some have been switching over to 360 (Praise be to Shin Blanka and Final Round!) but many are still running ps3 out of convenience for the TO.

As an aside, if you're not a tournament marvel player, don't insult the actual players for whining about ps3, even though it may seem like something you could just practice or an excuse for bad play. From an outsider's perspective, it's hard to see the differences (and especially so if you're just watching via a stream), but the input and framerate drops are very real and a huge issue. It's ruined multiple tournaments, even for johnny donuts players such as myself
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
April 28 2013 17:08 GMT
#202
Instead of blaming the tournament organizers for using PS3s, you should really be blaming Capcom for not optimizing their game to run properly on the PS3 hardware.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 17:11:36
April 28 2013 17:09 GMT
#203
On April 29 2013 02:08 Cel.erity wrote:
Instead of blaming the tournament organizers for using PS3s, you should really be blaming Capcom for not optimizing their game to run properly on the PS3 hardware.

Or we could blame Sony for manufacturing shitty hardware. In any case, that kind of problem could have been avoided in the first place.
o choro é livre
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
April 28 2013 17:16 GMT
#204
Forget about that. Rattana is still alive on Winners bracket for UMvC3 right?

I love me some old school MvC2 vets showing up still bringing their stuff out of nowhere :D
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
April 28 2013 17:18 GMT
#205
Looking forward to the SF top 8, which seems incredibly stacked
o choro é livre
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 17:29:48
April 28 2013 17:29 GMT
#206
On April 29 2013 02:09 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 02:08 Cel.erity wrote:
Instead of blaming the tournament organizers for using PS3s, you should really be blaming Capcom for not optimizing their game to run properly on the PS3 hardware.

Or we could blame Sony for manufacturing shitty hardware. In any case, that kind of problem could have been avoided in the first place.


That's nonsense. The gave developers know what platforms they're developing for, they make games based on the hardware, not the other way around. No matter how good the hardware is, you can always make a game that destroys it.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
April 28 2013 17:32 GMT
#207
On April 29 2013 02:16 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Forget about that. Rattana is still alive on Winners bracket for UMvC3 right?

I love me some old school MvC2 vets showing up still bringing their stuff out of nowhere :D


According to eventhubs he's in losers. I definitely did a double take when I heard the name, like "could that be the same guy from Seattle??" then saw the glove "Yep." lol
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 17:52:39
April 28 2013 17:48 GMT
#208
On April 29 2013 02:29 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 02:09 Al Bundy wrote:
On April 29 2013 02:08 Cel.erity wrote:
Instead of blaming the tournament organizers for using PS3s, you should really be blaming Capcom for not optimizing their game to run properly on the PS3 hardware.

Or we could blame Sony for manufacturing shitty hardware. In any case, that kind of problem could have been avoided in the first place.


That's nonsense. The gave developers know what platforms they're developing for, they make games based on the hardware, not the other way around. No matter how good the hardware is, you can always make a game that destroys it.

Well I'm a noob when it comes to tech-related talk, but apparently the PS3 architecture is kind of unique and different from say, a more traditional machine like a PC or a 360, and some people say that games are hard to port on PS3 for that reason. personally, I think you are right, Capcom totally has the experience and the resources in order to make this game run at constant 60 fps.
o choro é livre
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
April 28 2013 18:04 GMT
#209
On April 29 2013 02:32 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 02:16 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Forget about that. Rattana is still alive on Winners bracket for UMvC3 right?

I love me some old school MvC2 vets showing up still bringing their stuff out of nowhere :D


According to eventhubs he's in losers. I definitely did a double take when I heard the name, like "could that be the same guy from Seattle??" then saw the glove "Yep." lol


He put Wong into losers, I was definitely surprised. Floe and Viscant were teasing Jwong to switch over "To the dark side" of Wolv/Doom/Verg
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 20:26:43
April 28 2013 20:26 GMT
#210
KaneBlueRiver lightin it up vs FilipinoChamp
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
April 28 2013 20:40 GMT
#211
NORCAL SPESHUL
Fan of the Jangbanger
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
April 28 2013 21:08 GMT
#212
I got so much respect for Chris G, using the hate to fuel him and running it back 3-0.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
April 28 2013 22:47 GMT
#213
Pandora madness lololol
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 28 2013 23:14 GMT
#214
Lol just wondering but where's Bala been??? Notice Romance been winning every major with Bala MIA.

Be back to catch AE/Umvc3 top 8.
Forever Young
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 23:20:04
April 28 2013 23:19 GMT
#215
Bala had to go back to Mexico in December iirc. Not sure if he will be back for EVO or what the deal is. I think he may have been forced to go home lol
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
April 28 2013 23:54 GMT
#216
Bala should be back for evo. He is indeed back in mexico with his family, though he's grinding it out with Kula among others last I heard. Dark Geese is working behind the scenes to make sure Mexico is at its strongest this year for evo.

I cannot express how hype I was during that KBR vs Fchamp match. In the land of mag doom vergil, Hulk Haggar is winning the day. Did anyone else notice Fchamp hitting the home button and trying to blame the pause on KBR? FGTV trying to win in the most underhanded ways possible.

(If you hit the Home/PS button, the game auto pauses as player 1, even if player 2 is the one that hits it).
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
April 28 2013 23:59 GMT
#217
On April 29 2013 08:54 Trumpet wrote:
Bala should be back for evo. He is indeed back in mexico with his family, though he's grinding it out with Kula among others last I heard. Dark Geese is working behind the scenes to make sure Mexico is at its strongest this year for evo.

I cannot express how hype I was during that KBR vs Fchamp match. In the land of mag doom vergil, Hulk Haggar is winning the day. Did anyone else notice Fchamp hitting the home button and trying to blame the pause on KBR? FGTV trying to win in the most underhanded ways possible.

(If you hit the Home/PS button, the game auto pauses as player 1, even if player 2 is the one that hits it).


Eh? That's not what I thought happened. Thought FChamp just ragequit and Kane was confused about what was going on, because Phoenix had full health.

FChamp is a dick but he's not a cheater. Who would fall for it anyway?
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 00:05:35
April 29 2013 00:04 GMT
#218
On April 29 2013 08:59 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 08:54 Trumpet wrote:
Bala should be back for evo. He is indeed back in mexico with his family, though he's grinding it out with Kula among others last I heard. Dark Geese is working behind the scenes to make sure Mexico is at its strongest this year for evo.

I cannot express how hype I was during that KBR vs Fchamp match. In the land of mag doom vergil, Hulk Haggar is winning the day. Did anyone else notice Fchamp hitting the home button and trying to blame the pause on KBR? FGTV trying to win in the most underhanded ways possible.

(If you hit the Home/PS button, the game auto pauses as player 1, even if player 2 is the one that hits it).


Eh? That's not what I thought happened. Thought FChamp just ragequit and Kane was confused about what was going on, because Phoenix had full health.

FChamp is a dick but he's not a cheater. Who would fall for it anyway?


I guess I'm just naturally suspicious since team norcal did almost exactly that at FR in the team tournament when it was offstream

also I've had someone do it to me in a tournament, you'd be surprised what people will try with money on the line.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
April 29 2013 00:19 GMT
#219
On April 29 2013 09:04 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 08:59 Cel.erity wrote:
On April 29 2013 08:54 Trumpet wrote:
Bala should be back for evo. He is indeed back in mexico with his family, though he's grinding it out with Kula among others last I heard. Dark Geese is working behind the scenes to make sure Mexico is at its strongest this year for evo.

I cannot express how hype I was during that KBR vs Fchamp match. In the land of mag doom vergil, Hulk Haggar is winning the day. Did anyone else notice Fchamp hitting the home button and trying to blame the pause on KBR? FGTV trying to win in the most underhanded ways possible.

(If you hit the Home/PS button, the game auto pauses as player 1, even if player 2 is the one that hits it).


Eh? That's not what I thought happened. Thought FChamp just ragequit and Kane was confused about what was going on, because Phoenix had full health.

FChamp is a dick but he's not a cheater. Who would fall for it anyway?


I guess I'm just naturally suspicious since team norcal did almost exactly that at FR in the team tournament when it was offstream

also I've had someone do it to me in a tournament, you'd be surprised what people will try with money on the line.


The most competitive people are usually the least likely to cheat, especially when it's so blatantly obvious. Kane denied it on Twitter anyway:

Nicolas Gonzalez ‏@KaneBlueriverCL

@TheClassReal no, he didn't. And even with that, it was already in the animation.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
April 29 2013 01:29 GMT
#220
Why is Chris G the best USA SF4 player now? O.o
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 60 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
19:00
Masters Cup #150: Group B
davetesta51
Liquipedia
IPSL
17:00
Ro16 Group D
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
Liquipedia
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
15:55
FSL teamleague CNvsASH, ASHvRR
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Railgan 155
IndyStarCraft 141
MindelVK 41
BRAT_OK 37
EmSc Tv 10
ForJumy 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17846
Shuttle 789
Dewaltoss 95
Rock 53
Shine 43
NaDa 15
ZZZero.O 6
Dota 2
Gorgc5496
qojqva1558
Dendi797
Counter-Strike
byalli772
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor535
Other Games
tarik_tv6726
gofns5650
Grubby1529
Beastyqt466
DeMusliM279
Fuzer 200
Pyrionflax74
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream9209
Other Games
EGCTV818
gamesdonequick677
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 10
EmSc2Tv 10
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 46
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach52
• HerbMon 23
• Azhi_Dahaki17
• 80smullet 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• FirePhoenix0
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3081
• WagamamaTV374
• Ler66
League of Legends
• Nemesis3581
Other Games
• imaqtpie1537
• Shiphtur280
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
19m
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 19m
RSL Revival
14h 19m
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
16h 19m
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
16h 19m
BSL 21
1d
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
1d
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.