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Soap
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Aristodemus
England2014 Posts
As for Vettel and what he achieved. Look closer, he was up to 12th just from people retiring or having issues and the back three teams. Take away Ricciardo, Jev and Webber (because they all let him through). So to get 4th he passed two Williams, a Ferrari, a Sauber, a Force India and a Mercedes and most of those guys had incidents. The last SC just gave him fresh tyres which maybe he could have achieved more with. He did well (after his mistakes before and during the first SC) but it was not brilliant like Kimi and Alonso at Suzuka 05. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Look at Masa prime example. Was getting on the podeiums and being in contention in most races before the tyre issue and downforce rule, when the car was glued to the road. It took him about 3/4 of a season to get used to the back end kicking out on corners if your tyres are on their limit of needing change. The likes of Hamilton and Alonso (and maybe Vettel) are clear world class drivers, phenomonal imo. You can take numerous grand prix's they are involved with and point out world class driving from overtaking to being in the right place at the right time. They adapted to that within a race or two, not after 3/4 of a season. The cars are much more lively than they have been for years, and i will admit i have only been watching every race since 2005ish onwards, so i can't comment that far back on certain issues. But what i can say is, over the last 5 or so years, there has been a clear rise in the skill cap of the drivers. | ||
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Aristodemus
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kierpanda
United States757 Posts
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
On November 15 2012 01:19 Aristodemus wrote: I was talking more about the late 80's and early 90's as Soap was speaking about Senna. It was much tougher to be fast and consistent back then. Physically it is more demanding now. The cars are so good though that true talent shines bright only in technical slow corners, the kind of which Webber complains about. Long high speed stuff such as turn 8 in Turkey have virtually no scope to make up time. The FIA constantly try to slow down the teams but they progress faster than regulations slow them. This year is perhaps different due to the diffuser laws being successful but they will be faster than 2011 spec very soon. Relevant: | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 15 2012 02:40 kierpanda wrote: I'm flying out tomorrow to Austin, wheeee. Curious to see who will take WDC this year, though honestly, I'm not really an Alonso or a Vettel fan. :\ Still respect their driving through -- it's pretty incredible to watch Alonso in the rain. Zomg its the cooking lady in F1 thread xD Who are you a fan off might i ask? I think Hamilton will be on pole this weekend, other than that, i have NO IDEA how the race is going to pan out. Will be an amazing race though | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13537 Posts
On November 15 2012 02:40 kierpanda wrote: I'm flying out tomorrow to Austin, wheeee. Curious to see who will take WDC this year, though honestly, I'm not really an Alonso or a Vettel fan. :\ Still respect their driving through -- it's pretty incredible to watch Alonso in the rain. Take ear plugs! | ||
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GTPGlitch
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zere
Germany1287 Posts
Next event: ![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2209631/f12012_nextrace.jpg) 2012 Formula 1 United States Grand Prix (Austin, November 16th-18th) Practice 1: Friday, Nov 16 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Practice 2: Friday, Nov 16 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Practice 3: Saturday, Nov 17 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Qualifying: Saturday, Nov 17 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Race: Sunday, Nov 18 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Livetimings: Original Livetimings: http://www.formula1.com/live_timing (free registration required) Autosport Ticker: http://live.autosport.com/ McLaren team data + live radio: http://mclaren.com/formula1 Livestreams: Livestream for Brits: BBC and Sky Livestream for Americans: http://stream.speedtv.com/formula-one Livestream for El Toros: http://www.antena3.com/formula-1/ Livestream for Rally drivers: http://www.katsomo.fi/?treeId=15 Livestream for Ozzies: http://onehd.com.au/motorsport-live-streaming.htm Livestream for ze Germans: http://www.rtl.de/formel1/livestream/index If none of these links make sense to you, just turn on your local TV station. List of F1 broadcasters New track here we gooooo! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On November 16 2012 03:01 Pandemona wrote: Looks like an awesome track, should be great race. Nice amount of straights for overtaking too as well as some big corners. Agreed. There seems to be a nice balance of raw speed sections and technical sections. I think driver/crew ability will play a better factor than car ability in this race due to the track supporting both raw speed and technical. | ||
shiroiusagi
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
Orrr video game experience... XD | ||
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Aristodemus
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shiroiusagi
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:08 Aristodemus wrote: That fucking pit-lane siren....... whyyyy Is it that annoying sound I keep on hearing? o_o | ||
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Aristodemus
England2014 Posts
On November 17 2012 00:39 shiroiusagi wrote: Is it that annoying sound I keep on hearing? o_o Yeah, what a joke. | ||
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zere
Germany1287 Posts
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Aristodemus
England2014 Posts
 It is now off. | ||
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