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danmooj1
United States1855 Posts
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote: Aoki fights are the best. They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days. that's not true. it happens in the UFC all the time | ||
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ColdLava
Canada1673 Posts
On December 31 2011 23:32 danmooj1 wrote: Aoki, how long does it take to get a rear naked choke? Kitaoka had really really really good rear naked defense that fight. First off a lot of the ground work took place against one of the posts which would gave Aoki a lot less room to change angles to get his arm under Kitaoka's neck, Kitaoka also did a really good job of attacking the hands and wrists, and Kitaoka also made it hard for Aoki to get proper hooks or proper body triangle, when Aoki did get the body triangle he would always turn over towards Aoki's ankle's which would put release a lot of the pressure. There was actually never a rear naked attempt that was close, even though the commentators seemed to think. | ||
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danmooj1
United States1855 Posts
On December 31 2011 23:34 J1.au wrote: Aoki fights are the best. They're pretty much impossible to get in MMA these days. UFC 140 Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1 TUF 14 Finale Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3 UFC 138 Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2 Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1 Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1 UFC 136 Lauzon defeated Guillard via submission (rear naked choke) at 0:47 of round 1 UFC 135 Jones defeated Jackson via submission (rear naked choke) at 1:14 of round 4 | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On December 31 2011 23:44 danmooj1 wrote: that's not true. it happens in the UFC all the time Go and see how many times a back gets taken and nothing happens. You pretty much have to give up in a fight to lose to one. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On December 31 2011 23:47 danmooj1 wrote: UFC 140 Hallman defeated Makdessi via submission (rear naked choke) at 2:58 of round 1 TUF 14 Finale Delorme defeated Ferguson via submission (rear-naked choke) at 0:22 of round 3 UFC 138 Perosh defeated Diabaté via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:09 of round 2 Alves defeated Abedi via submission (rear naked choke) at 3:32 of round 1 Barão defeated Pickett via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:09 of round 1 Those are all terrible fighters so it doesn't prove much. | ||
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danmooj1
United States1855 Posts
On December 31 2011 23:47 J1.au wrote: Go and see how many times a back gets taken and nothing happens. You pretty much have to give up in a fight to lose to one. Just based on the last few UFC's there's about 1 RNC average for each card | ||
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danmooj1
United States1855 Posts
On December 31 2011 23:52 J1.au wrote: Those are all terrible fighters so it doesn't prove much. why not? it's still MMA | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
I should've said high level MMA. Happy? | ||
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danmooj1
United States1855 Posts
no need to get so defensive. just retorting what you said. but the UFC in general is "high level". those guys can probably beat most of the cans they have in dream | ||
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danmooj1
United States1855 Posts
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Makenshi
Sweden2105 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On December 31 2011 23:57 danmooj1 wrote: no need to get so defensive. just retorting what you said. but the UFC in general is "high level". those guys can probably beat most of the cans they have in dream Only the top of the UFC divisions are high level. I definitely exaggerated with my statement, but come on you have to admit that 99% of the time when a back is taken nothing happens! | ||
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danmooj1
United States1855 Posts
On January 01 2012 00:01 J1.au wrote: Only the top of the UFC divisions are high level. I definitely exaggerated with my statement, but come on you have to admit that 99% of the time when a back is taken nothing happens! well I guess I can see what you're saying because rnc is one of the few (the only one I can think of) submissions that can be used by taking someones back and everyone knows that it's coming so all you gotta do is defend that specific choke. where as in the guard or mount there's a lot more options so you're more prone to get submitted by something else | ||
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