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Miragee
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Doublemint
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On August 17 2014 00:48 Miragee wrote: It was nerfed already not long ago. Alongside with the Deagle buff. I personally think it's quite fine now. Casters make the CZ way bigger than it is. It's strong short range. But right now we usually see enough P250/Deagle/FiveSeven buys alongside CZs imho. Yeah. As a spectator I love how some rounds can be turned. Even though having the big advantage of good equipment people don't have the luxury of being negligent. I really like that. GG LDLC wp. But oh boy, imagine VP does not start every map with 0:5  | ||
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MyrMindservant
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On August 17 2014 00:48 Miragee wrote: It was nerfed already not long ago. Alongside with the Deagle buff. I personally think it's quite fine now. Casters make the CZ way bigger than it is. It's strong short range. But right now we usually see enough P250/Deagle/FiveSeven buys alongside CZs imho. That nerf was very superficial. As some pro players have said, it did make CZ slightly worse for random players in matchmaking but didn't change anything in professional play. Also, you are wrong about seeing enough P250/Deagle/FiveSeven, all of them combined are not used even nearly as much as CZ75 alone (talking about tournaments here). Which is not surprising, CZ75 is by large the most cost-effective pistol in the game. | ||
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Nimix
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On August 17 2014 00:55 Doublemint wrote: Yeah. As a spectator I love how some rounds can be turned. Even though having the big advantage of good equipment people don't have the luxury of being negligent. I really like that. GG LDLC wp. But oh boy, imagine VP does not start every map with 0:5 The problem with the CZ is that it's too easy to kill someone with it. With the p250, you HAVE to get a headshot, otherwise you're gonna get tagged and aim pucn will make your shots almost impossible to hit. P250 + armor is already really strong, but a CZ spray kills people in a ridiculously low amount of time regardless of where you hit. I think the P250 et 5-7 are already good enough to turn tides on ecos, and reward good aim. The CZ is unnecessary. | ||
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Miragee
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On August 17 2014 01:03 Nimix wrote: The problem with the CZ is that it's too easy to kill someone with it. With the p250, you HAVE to get a headshot, otherwise you're gonna get tagged and aim pucn will make your shots almost impossible to hit. P250 + armor is already really strong, but a CZ spray kills people in a ridiculously low amount of time regardless of where you hit. I think the P250 et 5-7 are already good enough to turn tides on ecos, and reward good aim. The CZ is unnecessary. I personally think that a lot of eco rounds are lost not because of CZ being OP but because the anti-eco team plays unintelligent. Often times the team with the rifles play overly aggressive, closing distances and generally being careless. If you keep the CZs on range, they do way worse than P250/Deagle/FiveSeven. But if you stack close range then sure, something like the instant triple from KQly on dust 2 can happen. | ||
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Grettin
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Tppz!
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
On August 17 2014 01:16 Miragee wrote: I personally think that a lot of eco rounds are lost not because of CZ being OP but because the anti-eco team plays unintelligent. Often times the team with the rifles play overly aggressive, closing distances and generally being careless. If you keep the CZs on range, they do way worse than P250/Deagle/FiveSeven. But if you stack close range then sure, something like the instant triple from KQly on dust 2 can happen. I'm pretty sure the CZ has the same accuracy than the P250 at long range, they just nerfed it a little, it's still super dangerous. There has been lots of long range CZ kills/headshots in this very tournament (from D2 pit to A, mirage boxes to window, etc). Also, you can't just always engage at range man, sometimes you get rushed as CT, at one point you have to push as T, etc. The pistol is just too powerful for 300$, compare the potential damage of a HE nade or a p250 to a CZ instagib at a corner, and the skill/context required to make it equal, it's just ridiculous. Also 5-7 is 500 and deagle 800, they should be way more powerful than the CZ, and it's not the case. Also ; hehe | ||
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DrainX
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Miragee
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On August 17 2014 01:27 Nimix wrote: I'm pretty sure the CZ has the same accuracy than the P250 at long range, they just nerfed it a little, it's still super dangerous. There has been lots of long range CZ kills/headshots in this very tournament (from D2 pit to A, mirage boxes to window, etc). Also, you can't just always engage at range man, sometimes you get rushed as CT, at one point you have to push as T, etc. The pistol is just too powerful for 300$, compare the potential damage of a HE nade or a p250 to a CZ instagib at a corner, and the skill/context required to make it equal, it's just ridiculous. Also 5-7 is 500 and deagle 800, they should be way more powerful than the CZ, and it's not the case. Also ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzVy6LNMavY&feature=share hehe That's the only point where I agree with you. C75 should cost at least 500, certainly not 300. For the video, as said, those shots are just luck imho. Nothing amazing about it. | ||
Kipsate
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Daralii
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On August 17 2014 01:38 Kipsate wrote: I like how players all sit/use their keyboards differently that guy has his keyboard diagonally. ![[image loading]](http://i.gyazo.com/2a551d0c13679b375706c16239562fa2.png) | ||
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