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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 00:07:39
August 05 2014 23:52 GMT
#10181
On August 06 2014 07:48 SyNc` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:13 Djzapz wrote:
I just reduced my sens by a third. I was at 1000dpi 6/11 windows and 6 ingame, now down to 4 ingame. I had trouble with rifle shots at a distance. Works much better in aim map now.


6 sens @ 1000 dpi............are you serious? Even with 4 your sens is still insanely high. How do you even play with that? Lower it to at least 1.5 if you want actual results.

Actual results? You talk to me like I'm new to this. What are your results man?

I've played with ridiculously high sensitivity for as long as I can remember. Served me well so far. Used to be a whole lot faster than this when I played competitively when I was a kid, too. I'm trying 4 now, and I'll try to lower it as much as I can, but I'm not likely to be able to play very well below 3 I'd think.

On August 06 2014 07:54 SyNc` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:51 Tarias wrote:
Why do people seem to think low sense gives higher consistency? Whatever you practive for a few thousand hours will surely work better for you than what some people on the internet tell you is better.. If he is consitently hitting shots are long range with his currently sensitivity, why lower it?


Because its impossible to have proper and consistent crosshair placement with ridiculously high sens. There's a reason every good player plays within a certain range of sensitivities.

Ideal sens is 800-1200 real sens (in game * dpi). The best place to start imo is 1000 real sens which is 2 sens @ 400 dpi or 1.5 sens @ 800 dpi. From there you can adjust it but that range is what it takes to do a 360 with 1 full swipe of a large mousepad. Most pros use the higher end of that range because its fast enough to let you flick well and low enough to have a steady crosshair when you are walking and clearing angles. If you have high sens then you twitch a lot which makes it hard to keep your crosshair steady enough, and at long distances it'll be impossible to accurately aim at people's heads when your crosshair moves at large increments. High sens is also an extremely huge strain on your wrist in fps games that require precision like cs.

I probably do better at osu or mouse accuracy than 99.5% of people despite the fact that my mouse jets all over my screen all the time, but despite that there are people who are so much better than me with really high sensitivity. There was this guy who'd play that thing stupidly well and you could barely see his hand move.

I'll agree that it's not common but I'd argue that it's simply another style rather than an inferior one. I tried low sens extensively when I was younger and it didn't work at all. So high sensitivity is not preventing me from getting results. I've been getting results.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
August 06 2014 00:43 GMT
#10182
People seem to forget, that high sens players use their wrists instead of their arm.
It's like a completely different input system and numbers cannot be compared.

Do we really need to remind people of + Show Spoiler [this] +
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 01:17:02
August 06 2014 01:03 GMT
#10183
On August 06 2014 08:52 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:48 SyNc` wrote:
On August 06 2014 07:13 Djzapz wrote:
I just reduced my sens by a third. I was at 1000dpi 6/11 windows and 6 ingame, now down to 4 ingame. I had trouble with rifle shots at a distance. Works much better in aim map now.


6 sens @ 1000 dpi............are you serious? Even with 4 your sens is still insanely high. How do you even play with that? Lower it to at least 1.5 if you want actual results.

Actual results? You talk to me like I'm new to this. What are your results man?

I've played with ridiculously high sensitivity for as long as I can remember. Served me well so far. Used to be a whole lot faster than this when I played competitively when I was a kid, too. I'm trying 4 now, and I'll try to lower it as much as I can, but I'm not likely to be able to play very well below 3 I'd think.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:54 SyNc` wrote:
On August 06 2014 07:51 Tarias wrote:
Why do people seem to think low sense gives higher consistency? Whatever you practive for a few thousand hours will surely work better for you than what some people on the internet tell you is better.. If he is consitently hitting shots are long range with his currently sensitivity, why lower it?


Because its impossible to have proper and consistent crosshair placement with ridiculously high sens. There's a reason every good player plays within a certain range of sensitivities.

Ideal sens is 800-1200 real sens (in game * dpi). The best place to start imo is 1000 real sens which is 2 sens @ 400 dpi or 1.5 sens @ 800 dpi. From there you can adjust it but that range is what it takes to do a 360 with 1 full swipe of a large mousepad. Most pros use the higher end of that range because its fast enough to let you flick well and low enough to have a steady crosshair when you are walking and clearing angles. If you have high sens then you twitch a lot which makes it hard to keep your crosshair steady enough, and at long distances it'll be impossible to accurately aim at people's heads when your crosshair moves at large increments. High sens is also an extremely huge strain on your wrist in fps games that require precision like cs.

I probably do better at osu or mouse accuracy than 99.5% of people despite the fact that my mouse jets all over my screen all the time, but despite that there are people who are so much better than me with really high sensitivity. There was this guy who'd play that thing stupidly well and you could barely see his hand move.

I'll agree that it's not common but I'd argue that it's simply another style rather than an inferior one. I tried low sens extensively when I was younger and it didn't work at all. So high sensitivity is not preventing me from getting results. I've been getting results.


osu accuracy is more relevant to sc2 than fps games. I was just trying to help but if you want to keep playing on ridiculously high sens then i can't stop you.

you want my results? here you go
http://play.esea.net/users/351556?tab=history
http://play.esea.net/users/351556?tab=stats&last_type_scope=pug&game_id=25&type_scope=pug&period[type]=career

On August 06 2014 09:43 Zocat wrote:
People seem to forget, that high sens players use their wrists instead of their arm.
It's like a completely different input system and numbers cannot be compared.

Do we really need to remind people of + Show Spoiler [this] +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_nO2gyfyb0


There's a difference between high sens and ridiculous sens. f0rest is considered to use one of the highest sens's out of any pro (3.5 @ 400 dpi)
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
August 06 2014 01:17 GMT
#10184
6@1K dpi indeed is a lot are you playing with accel? I had friends that did that and just moved their mouse slowly to aim at long range.. They played decently but couldn't get consistent quick aim. I tried playing at 4@400 dpi and it already seemed impossible to hit anything from afar.. But if you've been playing like that for years I guess whatever floats you boat
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 06 2014 01:52 GMT
#10185
On August 06 2014 10:17 Nimix wrote:
6@1K dpi indeed is a lot are you playing with accel? I had friends that did that and just moved their mouse slowly to aim at long range.. They played decently but couldn't get consistent quick aim. I tried playing at 4@400 dpi and it already seemed impossible to hit anything from afar.. But if you've been playing like that for years I guess whatever floats you boat

No accel nope. Pub superstar above there would approve! Back in my days when I had free time I played some cal-p, despite my crazy sensitivity. Yet I don't give people unwarranted advice
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 02:12:14
August 06 2014 01:58 GMT
#10186
On August 06 2014 10:52 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 10:17 Nimix wrote:
6@1K dpi indeed is a lot are you playing with accel? I had friends that did that and just moved their mouse slowly to aim at long range.. They played decently but couldn't get consistent quick aim. I tried playing at 4@400 dpi and it already seemed impossible to hit anything from afar.. But if you've been playing like that for years I guess whatever floats you boat

No accel nope. Pub superstar above there would approve! Back in my days when I had free time I played some cal-p, despite my crazy sensitivity. Yet I don't give people unwarranted advice


Pub superstar? I guess I pubbed my way to esea-invite in csgo and cs:source.

unless you're get_right or someone who's on a top european team there's always something you can do to improve. Even pros change settings like crazy. Like I said, I was just giving some advice, whether or not you take it is on you. Grats you were cal-p back in the day, that means literally nothing now. Honestly, I don't really care about this game much anymore. Its an awful game and I refuse to put anymore time into it because of that. I do know how to get good at this game though, and how to make your time productive rather than being satisfied with mediocrity.

Also, I'd say its not unwarranted advice though, seeing as you're LEM.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 03:18:56
August 06 2014 02:11 GMT
#10187
On August 06 2014 10:58 SyNc` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 10:52 Djzapz wrote:
On August 06 2014 10:17 Nimix wrote:
6@1K dpi indeed is a lot are you playing with accel? I had friends that did that and just moved their mouse slowly to aim at long range.. They played decently but couldn't get consistent quick aim. I tried playing at 4@400 dpi and it already seemed impossible to hit anything from afar.. But if you've been playing like that for years I guess whatever floats you boat

No accel nope. Pub superstar above there would approve! Back in my days when I had free time I played some cal-p, despite my crazy sensitivity. Yet I don't give people unwarranted advice


Pub superstar? lol

unless you're get_right or someone who's on a top european team there's always something you can do to improve. Those guys change settings like crazy. Like I said, I was just giving some advice, whether or not you take it is on you. Grats you were cal-p back in the day, that means literally nothing now. Honestly, I don't really care about this game much anymore. Its an awful game and I refuse to put anymore time into it because of that, but I mean at least I got to play esea-invite, and it wasn't "back in the day"

I'd say its not unwarranted advice though, seeing as you're LEM.

I'm just saying it's possible to play decently well with high sens, as I did back in the day when I played. Now like you I don't care much about the game and I have other occupations... like university and teaching. LEM playing 10 hours a week with my GN4-MG2 friends is my version of getting results.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
August 06 2014 03:56 GMT
#10188
djzapz so defensive lol...
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-06 04:29:47
August 06 2014 04:06 GMT
#10189
On August 06 2014 12:56 MassHysteria wrote:
djzapz so defensive lol...

How dare you! But you're right, you'd think after years spent on the interwebs I'd stop giving a fuck but I did go all carebear mode. Cheers.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Aeropunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia255 Posts
August 06 2014 08:30 GMT
#10190
Let's get this thread back on track an talk about CKoTH shall we? (or not, I have popcorn)

Will likely be iBP vs Na'vi, should be a fairly even match but my money is on iBP. I think a lot of fanboys are betting on Na'vi so hopefully this will upset them

...although being a 1 off match, do you think we'll see experimental strats or will they play it serious?
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
August 07 2014 18:02 GMT
#10191
fucking done wit this game.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 07 2014 19:26 GMT
#10192
After 127 wins, I finally hit DMG


The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 07 2014 19:29 GMT
#10193
Didn't IBP disappoint at G3? My money is on a bunch of aim stars in Na'Vi over an under performing NA team.
Writer@WriterYamato
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
August 07 2014 20:09 GMT
#10194
On August 08 2014 04:29 yamato77 wrote:
Didn't IBP disappoint at G3? My money is on a bunch of aim stars in Na'Vi over an under performing NA team.


Who is an aim star on Na'Vi? It's pretty much Guardian, the rest didn't really impress me consistently.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 07 2014 20:12 GMT
#10195
That's because they aren't consistent aside from GuardiaN and Edward. starix and seized step it up every once in a while though.
Writer
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
August 07 2014 20:15 GMT
#10196
On August 08 2014 05:12 Souma wrote:
That's because they aren't consistent aside from GuardiaN and Edward. starix and seized step it up every once in a while though.


Edward isn't really consistent, either, comparing his usual performance against, lets say, his monstrous perfomance yesterday.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 07 2014 20:26 GMT
#10197
He is consistently good. He's just not consistently monstrous. He has his off days just like Get Right but is pretty consistent overall.
Writer
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
August 07 2014 20:53 GMT
#10198
On August 08 2014 04:26 amazingxkcd wrote:
After 127 wins, I finally hit DMG




Grats man, now GL for eagle :D I'm struggling pretty hard, just got 32 kills in MM in highish DMG though so I have hope! So many smurfs destroying games, it's hard.
And seized is pretty sick when he is on, any of the pro players can be anyway, consistency is the key but it seems pretty hard to attain on GO..
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
August 07 2014 21:40 GMT
#10199
On August 08 2014 04:26 amazingxkcd wrote:
After 127 wins, I finally hit DMG



Wow I suck. I just hit 90 wins and i'm at SEM.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 07 2014 22:25 GMT
#10200
On August 08 2014 04:26 amazingxkcd wrote:
After 127 wins, I finally hit DMG



Congrats!
On August 08 2014 04:29 yamato77 wrote:
Didn't IBP disappoint at G3? My money is on a bunch of aim stars in Na'Vi over an under performing NA team.

I think they've been on a roll recently. They've won their last 4/5 matches, against teams like Na'Vi, and NiP according to hltv. Sure CW aren't big, and neither are Epsilon, but not exactly pushovers either. Although they lost to Titan.

I'd put them over Na'Vi, and maybe even vs fnatic at Cologne.
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