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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19234 Posts
November 30 2013 01:40 GMT
#5821
In my last 8 games I'm 5-1-2, which is pretty good since I've been playing with people higher ranked than me
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3308 Posts
November 30 2013 01:59 GMT
#5822
On November 30 2013 09:36 SyNc` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 08:42 misirlou wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:19 Durp wrote:
On November 30 2013 04:20 DinoToss wrote:
On November 30 2013 02:29 Souma wrote:
Nuke is way too CT favored though. Every map is skewed slightly one way or the other but Nuke is heavily CT favored. I don't like it at all.

1.6 maps were super crazy imbalanced, and some were to the point of ridiculousness, the time were people played aztec, cbble or prodigy... oh fucking god, i still blame cbble for destroying my "career" :p Post 2005 no one played those maps competetively, thank god.

however maps like dust2 were positively imbalanced, i think it is because aggressors were slighly favored, when agressors are favored they can present more interesting tactics

nuke and train were extremely team play reliant for terro, shitty teams got smashed because they couldn't sync their attacks and flashes. Nuke was always interesting because it had complex wallshotting mechanics, before meta-game switched to short time duration, the whole foreplay was all about spamming the upper wall. Researching "hax" spots was pretty funny.

i don't like most changes on CS GO maps, they are kinda limiting, thats why we see so low usage of AWP. They need to bring back long range spots on maps, it works both way gives ct a bigger range of tactics (offensive positioning) and terro can try to pick up CT one by one before entering if CT use daring tactics.

Maybe everything changed since I last played 1.6, but isn't de_train one of the most imbalanced maps that's still played competitively? Like 10-5 CT:T scores on Train for T's were considered pretty decent the last time I played.. Even the last pro match I watched had T's on train just getting shit on over and over again.

Personally always found Nuke to be my most favourite map to play T-side, even in spite of the difficulty. I always liked the subtle variances T-side strats have on that map, and definitely found it easier to play T than other maps like train, prodigy, cbble, or aztec (lulz easiest 15-0)


Since you have to play 15 rounds on both sides, it balances out really. Doesn't matter if one side is too CT favored, the better team will win more T rounds. Unless the map is almost 15-0 100%. Look at NIP on train yesterday, for example. They started T and bagged 6 rounds np, then proceed to win 10 0 or 10 1 at CT, this was on quarters IIRC


It doesn't exactly balance out because if you get t side first and lose 13-2 or 12-3 or something extreme then your ct side relies too heavily upon winning pistol round. Its not like every match goes to 30 rounds.


If you loose 13 2, and lost pistol on both sides you're kinda screwed, but if you're loosing pistol on a map that favored for your side you should loose. It's not like pistols are coin flips
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
November 30 2013 02:12 GMT
#5823
On November 30 2013 10:59 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 09:36 SyNc` wrote:
On November 30 2013 08:42 misirlou wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:19 Durp wrote:
On November 30 2013 04:20 DinoToss wrote:
On November 30 2013 02:29 Souma wrote:
Nuke is way too CT favored though. Every map is skewed slightly one way or the other but Nuke is heavily CT favored. I don't like it at all.

1.6 maps were super crazy imbalanced, and some were to the point of ridiculousness, the time were people played aztec, cbble or prodigy... oh fucking god, i still blame cbble for destroying my "career" :p Post 2005 no one played those maps competetively, thank god.

however maps like dust2 were positively imbalanced, i think it is because aggressors were slighly favored, when agressors are favored they can present more interesting tactics

nuke and train were extremely team play reliant for terro, shitty teams got smashed because they couldn't sync their attacks and flashes. Nuke was always interesting because it had complex wallshotting mechanics, before meta-game switched to short time duration, the whole foreplay was all about spamming the upper wall. Researching "hax" spots was pretty funny.

i don't like most changes on CS GO maps, they are kinda limiting, thats why we see so low usage of AWP. They need to bring back long range spots on maps, it works both way gives ct a bigger range of tactics (offensive positioning) and terro can try to pick up CT one by one before entering if CT use daring tactics.

Maybe everything changed since I last played 1.6, but isn't de_train one of the most imbalanced maps that's still played competitively? Like 10-5 CT:T scores on Train for T's were considered pretty decent the last time I played.. Even the last pro match I watched had T's on train just getting shit on over and over again.

Personally always found Nuke to be my most favourite map to play T-side, even in spite of the difficulty. I always liked the subtle variances T-side strats have on that map, and definitely found it easier to play T than other maps like train, prodigy, cbble, or aztec (lulz easiest 15-0)


Since you have to play 15 rounds on both sides, it balances out really. Doesn't matter if one side is too CT favored, the better team will win more T rounds. Unless the map is almost 15-0 100%. Look at NIP on train yesterday, for example. They started T and bagged 6 rounds np, then proceed to win 10 0 or 10 1 at CT, this was on quarters IIRC


It doesn't exactly balance out because if you get t side first and lose 13-2 or 12-3 or something extreme then your ct side relies too heavily upon winning pistol round. Its not like every match goes to 30 rounds.


If you loose 13 2, and lost pistol on both sides you're kinda screwed, but if you're loosing pistol on a map that favored for your side you should loose. It's not like pistols are coin flips


Pistols are incredibly inconsistent in this game, so it isn't always your fault for losing a pistol round. No offense, but do you even play competitively?
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
November 30 2013 06:52 GMT
#5824
I find the P250 to be the most consistent pistol. I've spent a considerable amount of personal time into learning it's recoil and inaccuracy fire rates and I can almost always score 1-2 kills in my comp games now. (After not getting any for almost an entire year I'm finally able to do some good now haha.)
So wait? I'm bad? =(
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 30 2013 09:04 GMT
#5825
Yeah I use P250 when I buy a pistol also, i find i'm more consistent with it
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
November 30 2013 09:15 GMT
#5826
On November 30 2013 07:05 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 05:51 WindWolf wrote:
So now I have bought the game now. Will play a bit offline before starting to play online

Or just play casual modes like demolition or gun games (on the play tab). These can be fun even if you don't know what you are doing.

Well, I've watched some competitive CS, so it's not like I'm completely lost of what's happening.

The biggest challenge for me will to be adopting to a new kind of FPS. The last one I played was Sanctum 2, which is very different from CS
EZ4ENCE
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
November 30 2013 12:29 GMT
#5827
On November 30 2013 18:15 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 07:05 Roggay wrote:
On November 30 2013 05:51 WindWolf wrote:
So now I have bought the game now. Will play a bit offline before starting to play online

Or just play casual modes like demolition or gun games (on the play tab). These can be fun even if you don't know what you are doing.

Well, I've watched some competitive CS, so it's not like I'm completely lost of what's happening.

The biggest challenge for me will to be adopting to a new kind of FPS. The last one I played was Sanctum 2, which is very different from CS

Then I'd recommend you to play a lot of DeathMatch servers to practice your aim. Its the fastest way to do that.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19234 Posts
November 30 2013 14:21 GMT
#5828
http://imgur.com/EIFv3Qo,Bi68Wxi,ZXgPs8N

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booster first game
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 30 2013 14:44 GMT
#5829
Yeah its gonna be awful this month with Autumn+Winter sale deals -.-

ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 30 2013 15:10 GMT
#5830
Would be worse it was a free weekend but yeah you're right.

Also VG playing out of their minds right now in G2 vs NiP. Making all the shots.

On November 30 2013 21:29 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 18:15 WindWolf wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:05 Roggay wrote:
On November 30 2013 05:51 WindWolf wrote:
So now I have bought the game now. Will play a bit offline before starting to play online

Or just play casual modes like demolition or gun games (on the play tab). These can be fun even if you don't know what you are doing.

Well, I've watched some competitive CS, so it's not like I'm completely lost of what's happening.

The biggest challenge for me will to be adopting to a new kind of FPS. The last one I played was Sanctum 2, which is very different from CS

Then I'd recommend you to play a lot of DeathMatch servers to practice your aim. Its the fastest way to do that.


DM is great for aim but for actual mechanics and learning the maps, just join a casual game/server. No one really cares despite how much they'll complain in chat.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 30 2013 15:15 GMT
#5831
VG Inferno CT is just silly good.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 30 2013 15:33 GMT
#5832
Man VG are such monsters.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2664 Posts
November 30 2013 16:31 GMT
#5833
Animaniacs on the CS stream :D
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
November 30 2013 16:40 GMT
#5834
Hey Valve, you need to publish another patch or force another maps to nerf forest - I mean NiP.
Because all-Swedish final isn't the most interesting thing to observe.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
November 30 2013 16:59 GMT
#5835
Just picked this up today, had some European singing 'Titanium' over the mic then start shooting teammates, hopefully the community is slightly nicer than this
Praise the sun! \o/
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
November 30 2013 17:01 GMT
#5836
Great first seminfinal
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Chaosu
Profile Joined October 2005
Poland404 Posts
November 30 2013 17:38 GMT
#5837
so what's exactly in the dreamhack cases, anyone knows?
Please be patient.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 17:46:19
November 30 2013 17:45 GMT
#5838
On December 01 2013 01:59 Shottaz wrote:
Just picked this up today, had some European singing 'Titanium' over the mic then start shooting teammates, hopefully the community is slightly nicer than this

You do get retards from time to time in MM (For example, I encountered some guys chanting allahu ackbar over the mic for the whole game). But well you can't avoid those in team games. Most of the time it goes well (aside from the random cursing when your team is losing).
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 18:45:51
November 30 2013 18:41 GMT
#5839
This Hiko guy seems way better than his teammates.

What are the team roles on a CS team? There seems to be one sniper on each team (JW for Fnatic and sean for coL). Everyone else has a rifle? On the CT side, are there players who are always tasked with sitting in one bomb site or the other? And then two players playing in between for quick rotations?
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 19:00:29
November 30 2013 18:56 GMT
#5840
Yeah, everyone has M4/AK in most cases. Best damage/accuracy/price ratio. AK is a 1 bullet kill to the head, M4 does 87 (?)with head armor, one hit kill without it

AWP/Autosnipers are mostly picked up for area control. But it depends on the team/players if they want to use one, or if they have a shitton of money they wont be able to spend in the half.

Everyone plays his AWP different though
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