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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 30 2013 20:39 GMT
#10841
Huh I need to turn up my sound I guess. I play pretty much all games on barely above mute (shooters slightly higher since I need directional sound).
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 21:16:30
October 30 2013 21:11 GMT
#10842
Okay, so what support gems do I use for my Frenzy and Rain of Arrows? As in DMG priority-wise? As a physical bow user.

For Frenzy of course Faster Attacks and Added Fire, but what then? Faster Projectiles? I know Leech might be necessary, but currently it isn't really since I've got a lot on my gear and my damage just isn't very good(probably need a good bow, although Darkscorn isn't THAT bad). At the moment I'm using Faster Projectiles as it's fairly light on mana.

For Rain of Arrows I'd assume Faster Attacks, Added Fire, Increased AoE(,Concentrated Effect if 5L). Right?
invisible.terran
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:05:37
October 30 2013 22:04 GMT
#10843
Is there any skill to build my Shadow Claw around (self-found in new league)? Reave seems like a pretty lousy skill and Cleave has gotten boring by this point now.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:15:53
October 30 2013 22:15 GMT
#10844
On October 31 2013 07:04 invisible.terran wrote:
Is there any skill to build my Shadow Claw around (self-found in new league)? Reave seems like a pretty lousy skill and Cleave has gotten boring by this point now.

Cleave doesn't even work with Claws (unless 1.0.0 changed that).

Most popular should be Dual or Double Strike with Melee Splash. Claws don't have another strong skill aside from Reave which I don't know very well. You COULD play Cyclone, which is fun but a skill which is leading to deaths to desync.
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
October 30 2013 22:15 GMT
#10845
On October 31 2013 06:11 HolydaKing wrote:
Okay, so what support gems do I use for my Frenzy and Rain of Arrows? As in DMG priority-wise? As a physical bow user.

For Frenzy of course Faster Attacks and Added Fire, but what then? Faster Projectiles? I know Leech might be necessary, but currently it isn't really since I've got a lot on my gear and my damage just isn't very good(probably need a good bow, although Darkscorn isn't THAT bad). At the moment I'm using Faster Projectiles as it's fairly light on mana.

For Rain of Arrows I'd assume Faster Attacks, Added Fire, Increased AoE(,Concentrated Effect if 5L). Right?


On my RoA guy I used Rain of Arrows, Faster Attacks, WED (replace with Added Fire), Blood Magic, Life Leech and Con. Effect. You wanna go BM on RoA so you can go dual aura on your mana.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:19:53
October 30 2013 22:17 GMT
#10846
On October 31 2013 07:15 SlixSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 06:11 HolydaKing wrote:
Okay, so what support gems do I use for my Frenzy and Rain of Arrows? As in DMG priority-wise? As a physical bow user.

For Frenzy of course Faster Attacks and Added Fire, but what then? Faster Projectiles? I know Leech might be necessary, but currently it isn't really since I've got a lot on my gear and my damage just isn't very good(probably need a good bow, although Darkscorn isn't THAT bad). At the moment I'm using Faster Projectiles as it's fairly light on mana.

For Rain of Arrows I'd assume Faster Attacks, Added Fire, Increased AoE(,Concentrated Effect if 5L). Right?


On my RoA guy I used Rain of Arrows, Faster Attacks, WED (replace with Added Fire), Blood Magic, Life Leech and Con. Effect. You wanna go BM on RoA so you can go dual aura on your mana.

WED doesn't seem like a good idea for a physical Bow user though, or am I wrong? It got nerfed, too. On first sight Added Fire seems superior. Currently using a 4% Life Leech amulet, if I go Blood Magic I'd probably neeed Life Leech gem though. But it seems like a good idea.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
October 30 2013 22:21 GMT
#10847
On October 31 2013 03:45 SlixSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:21 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On October 31 2013 02:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
Spectral throw is the gem scions start with, just make a new character to get one...

Ele cleave has been nerfed pretty hard iirc.


Cleave still levels at a reasonable speed and is at worst still above average. I always use cleave until I can link LMP to throw because the AoE is too tiny for it to be efficient to clear.


Not true, ST is actually the most efficient way to level at any point in the game. Boof and I both did test runs with ranger muling ST, he got to 33.5 in 2 hours, I got to somewhere around 30-31 (killing vaal with a lvl 8 longsword). Previous two hour record (by cwu) was lvl 31. It is ridiculously OP, 30 min or less act 1 is pretty standard on ST because you can kill mobs while you run (use ST, crowd mobs behind you and hit them while you run away).

Cleave is pretty dumpster actually, especially ele cleave, only reasonable way to use cleave now is two-handed

I didn't think of that because I haven't been using ST, but now that you mention that it sounds OP as fuck.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:27:29
October 30 2013 22:24 GMT
#10848
There doesn't seem to be any useful 1 handed Dexterity AoE skill, (one that doesn't force you to goto melee range) that isn't Spectral Throw.
You can try Whirling Blades for a safeish but low damage aoe or flickerstrike with frenzy.
If you are going to go claw, just accept that your claw is basically pointless against any mobs
You can just use an Intelligence Skill instead for ranged splash though, as a shadow.

Also, if you are willing to use a lot of orbs, you can use Melee Splash support gem (Strength socket).
Increased Area of Effect support gem is nice, but you will probably not bring your character to Cruel or Merciless.

In other words, Claws suck. They can life leech and do a lot of damage vs single targets though with dual strike with dual wield, especially with their nice Claws Nodes off to the right, but that forces you to goto melee range.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:37:13
October 30 2013 22:34 GMT
#10849
On October 31 2013 07:24 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any useful 1 handed Dexterity AoE skill, (one that doesn't force you to goto melee range) that isn't Spectral Throw.
You can try Whirling Blades for a safeish but low damage aoe or flickerstrike with frenzy.
If you are going to go claw, just accept that your claw is basically pointless against any mobs
You can just use an Intelligence Skill instead for ranged splash though, as a shadow.

Also, if you are willing to use a lot of orbs, you can use Melee Splash support gem (Strength socket).
Increased Area of Effect support gem is nice, but you will probably not bring your character to Cruel or Merciless.

In other words, Claws suck. They can life leech and do a lot of damage vs single targets though with dual strike with dual wield, especially with their nice Claws Nodes off to the right, but that forces you to goto melee range.

Reave.

If some Officier would kindly invite me to TL guild (if space is still availabe): GGGamecrash
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
October 31 2013 00:50 GMT
#10850
On October 31 2013 07:04 invisible.terran wrote:
Is there any skill to build my Shadow Claw around (self-found in new league)? Reave seems like a pretty lousy skill and Cleave has gotten boring by this point now.

Dual or Double Strike with melee splash isn't difficult to gear and is sufficiently powerful.

I love reave, but you need a 5L for it to be worth anything
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 01:07:23
October 31 2013 01:05 GMT
#10851
Invite please ^^, IGN RusPanda (think I have some people added from a while ago). So If I'm leveling a witch and I found a 8% Q Spectral Throw would that be better for leveling than freezing pulse spam? (Assuming i find a half decent dagger or something)
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 31 2013 01:06 GMT
#10852
On October 30 2013 11:53 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 11:39 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm making a trap shadow and I presume that I'm supposed to be building ES and evasion. Should I forego armor altogether or should I get that too? Is Ghost Reaver a good pickup or is that only for melee-ers?

Do you wanna just do pure trap or do other stuff too? ES is fine, but honestly evasion starts to get pretty shit after like level 30-40 or so, you should probably spec IR, I can make you a tree if you don't mind giving me a little more detail.



On October 30 2013 12:47 Jerubaal wrote:
I am using Fire Trap and Lightning trap with Conductivity and some Bear Trap. Thinking about adding Power Charge on Crit and Discharge but not sure.

This is my build so far. Hopefully I didn't cock it (or the link) too badly.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBDkgRLxGWE54e8DIYXfJe-nBScNV-M4hrjDaP-pmanWOdo6SRpLG0OLb3t3XAUdA51U_b595344TlGeWO62PuFfv1_Ks=

I also plan on going CI eventually.


*cough* /Begs.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 31 2013 02:24 GMT
#10853
On October 31 2013 10:05 RuskiPanda wrote:
Invite please ^^, IGN RusPanda (think I have some people added from a while ago). So If I'm leveling a witch and I found a 8% Q Spectral Throw would that be better for leveling than freezing pulse spam? (Assuming i find a half decent dagger or something)


It'll likely be better because you can move and kill stuff, and the risk of getting swarmed and died is lower. You'll want to use a big fat 2h weapon though because they're bigger and hit more stuff.
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
October 31 2013 02:32 GMT
#10854
On October 31 2013 10:06 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 11:53 Varanice wrote:
On October 30 2013 11:39 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm making a trap shadow and I presume that I'm supposed to be building ES and evasion. Should I forego armor altogether or should I get that too? Is Ghost Reaver a good pickup or is that only for melee-ers?

Do you wanna just do pure trap or do other stuff too? ES is fine, but honestly evasion starts to get pretty shit after like level 30-40 or so, you should probably spec IR, I can make you a tree if you don't mind giving me a little more detail.



Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 12:47 Jerubaal wrote:
I am using Fire Trap and Lightning trap with Conductivity and some Bear Trap. Thinking about adding Power Charge on Crit and Discharge but not sure.

This is my build so far. Hopefully I didn't cock it (or the link) too badly.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBDkgRLxGWE54e8DIYXfJe-nBScNV-M4hrjDaP-pmanWOdo6SRpLG0OLb3t3XAUdA51U_b595344TlGeWO62PuFfv1_Ks=

I also plan on going CI eventually.


*cough* /Begs.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBfkOSBEvEZYV1xXwFkAa2xvgHNwdFCT9KPoppSymLL8xszN4NAo2PTdmN4NDY04qUEJWY1b6V9hY9VuvW7td8mNDZk9mnnBRcFJw1XFNdEF313i6frB_xoFJgseFfYauiEKIa4w2j0aQDZMnmZqaz5smnaOdxJ97oi6jiqbrpwiyOLQMtDi297cxt3W4k8BRwcXDbdUA1U_XhthU3FfdDd533vbjhOUZ51TndOjW6rrrY-vu7BjuDu4V8h3z6vlj-ej60vv1_Kv8xQ==

Thats a level 80~ tree I threw together. You would probably run Purity and Clarity as auras. You would probably want to use PCoC or the Voll's Chest because the Power charges will be really useful here. Also if you don't mind doing extra work in fights, linking your main trap/s to a mine will drastically increase your damage because Mine + Trap double dips on the damage passive in addition to the damage multiplier on the mine.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 31 2013 02:39 GMT
#10855
I think I added everyone up to this point. Had to buy +10 member slots to fit everyone in, left over points for the guild are at 150.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 31 2013 02:57 GMT
#10856
On October 31 2013 11:32 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 10:06 Jerubaal wrote:
On October 30 2013 11:53 Varanice wrote:
On October 30 2013 11:39 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm making a trap shadow and I presume that I'm supposed to be building ES and evasion. Should I forego armor altogether or should I get that too? Is Ghost Reaver a good pickup or is that only for melee-ers?

Do you wanna just do pure trap or do other stuff too? ES is fine, but honestly evasion starts to get pretty shit after like level 30-40 or so, you should probably spec IR, I can make you a tree if you don't mind giving me a little more detail.



On October 30 2013 12:47 Jerubaal wrote:
I am using Fire Trap and Lightning trap with Conductivity and some Bear Trap. Thinking about adding Power Charge on Crit and Discharge but not sure.

This is my build so far. Hopefully I didn't cock it (or the link) too badly.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBDkgRLxGWE54e8DIYXfJe-nBScNV-M4hrjDaP-pmanWOdo6SRpLG0OLb3t3XAUdA51U_b595344TlGeWO62PuFfv1_Ks=

I also plan on going CI eventually.


*cough* /Begs.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBfkOSBEvEZYV1xXwFkAa2xvgHNwdFCT9KPoppSymLL8xszN4NAo2PTdmN4NDY04qUEJWY1b6V9hY9VuvW7td8mNDZk9mnnBRcFJw1XFNdEF313i6frB_xoFJgseFfYauiEKIa4w2j0aQDZMnmZqaz5smnaOdxJ97oi6jiqbrpwiyOLQMtDi297cxt3W4k8BRwcXDbdUA1U_XhthU3FfdDd533vbjhOUZ51TndOjW6rrrY-vu7BjuDu4V8h3z6vlj-ej60vv1_Kv8xQ==

Thats a level 80~ tree I threw together. You would probably run Purity and Clarity as auras. You would probably want to use PCoC or the Voll's Chest because the Power charges will be really useful here. Also if you don't mind doing extra work in fights, linking your main trap/s to a mine will drastically increase your damage because Mine + Trap double dips on the damage passive in addition to the damage multiplier on the mine.


Thanks a lot, that helps a lot. It gives me a general idea of what to go for.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 03:15:47
October 31 2013 03:13 GMT
#10857
On October 31 2013 11:32 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 10:06 Jerubaal wrote:
On October 30 2013 11:53 Varanice wrote:
On October 30 2013 11:39 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm making a trap shadow and I presume that I'm supposed to be building ES and evasion. Should I forego armor altogether or should I get that too? Is Ghost Reaver a good pickup or is that only for melee-ers?

Do you wanna just do pure trap or do other stuff too? ES is fine, but honestly evasion starts to get pretty shit after like level 30-40 or so, you should probably spec IR, I can make you a tree if you don't mind giving me a little more detail.



On October 30 2013 12:47 Jerubaal wrote:
I am using Fire Trap and Lightning trap with Conductivity and some Bear Trap. Thinking about adding Power Charge on Crit and Discharge but not sure.

This is my build so far. Hopefully I didn't cock it (or the link) too badly.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBDkgRLxGWE54e8DIYXfJe-nBScNV-M4hrjDaP-pmanWOdo6SRpLG0OLb3t3XAUdA51U_b595344TlGeWO62PuFfv1_Ks=

I also plan on going CI eventually.


*cough* /Begs.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBfkOSBEvEZYV1xXwFkAa2xvgHNwdFCT9KPoppSymLL8xszN4NAo2PTdmN4NDY04qUEJWY1b6V9hY9VuvW7td8mNDZk9mnnBRcFJw1XFNdEF313i6frB_xoFJgseFfYauiEKIa4w2j0aQDZMnmZqaz5smnaOdxJ97oi6jiqbrpwiyOLQMtDi297cxt3W4k8BRwcXDbdUA1U_XhthU3FfdDd533vbjhOUZ51TndOjW6rrrY-vu7BjuDu4V8h3z6vlj-ej60vv1_Kv8xQ==

Thats a level 80~ tree I threw together. You would probably run Purity and Clarity as auras. You would probably want to use PCoC or the Voll's Chest because the Power charges will be really useful here. Also if you don't mind doing extra work in fights, linking your main trap/s to a mine will drastically increase your damage because Mine + Trap double dips on the damage passive in addition to the damage multiplier on the mine.

Traps scale aweful with crit (5% and 4% base crit chance aka at least as bad as bows) which translates to power charges being completely useless for your damage output.

Lategame, depending on how your damage output feels, the best way to increase your damage comes from curses and/or a Searing Touch.

Here is a much more refined version, assuming you want to stick with IR. IF you want to go to the top/left side of the tree it should be for the Witch Fire Damage nodes/the Burning Cluster/Static Blows.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 31 2013 05:15 GMT
#10858
Man, they nerfed the stupid lightning trap dude and he still wiped the floor with me.
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Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
October 31 2013 08:01 GMT
#10859
So, just found an Alpha Howl, my first drop in the game that would be considered good in any sense. My question for you guys is, should I try to 4L it before selling. I have an offer for 3 ex now, and my instinct is to take the offer and let them craft their own links, but it's possible that would be a mistake and for mysterious reasons of people being lazy it would be worth my time to 4L, particularly now that 4L-ing is 233% easier.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13079 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 08:07:17
October 31 2013 08:06 GMT
#10860
Tried the game like ages ago and dled through steam yesterday but my hardcore char is lvl 11 wtf, dont remember i played that much haha.
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