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BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 10:39:54
October 28 2013 10:39 GMT
#10721
So, I just downloaded the game, and I'm not really sure what I should do first, hope you guys willl be able to enlighten me a bit, since I didnt play much Diablo2/3 before.

-What exactly are those league I can choose at the start? Are they just some kind of increased difficulty mode or is there something more to them?
-Should I start in one of them or should I start with a standard/softcore playthrough first to get a hang for the game?

-Regarding builds, should I stick to some kind of standard or can I make my own and not end up with a completely worthless character? When looking a bit at streams every single one of them seems to play some kind of spectral throw build :<
Romanes eunt domus
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
October 28 2013 10:40 GMT
#10722
On October 28 2013 19:35 EchelonTee wrote:
Why Melee splash on your frenzy?


So I am not 100% sure on this, but I think the different targets I hit with Melee Splash count for the Cast on Crit Gem, so when I crit 3 Targets instead of 1 with my Frenzy, the chance of my Cast on Crit Trigger is 3 times as high. Tried it with Multistrike before, but I think only the initial hit counts, so the extra attacks from multistrike do nothing for my build.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 11:20:04
October 28 2013 11:14 GMT
#10723
On October 28 2013 19:39 BobMcJohnson wrote:
So, I just downloaded the game, and I'm not really sure what I should do first, hope you guys willl be able to enlighten me a bit, since I didnt play much Diablo2/3 before.

-What exactly are those league I can choose at the start? Are they just some kind of increased difficulty mode or is there something more to them?
-Should I start in one of them or should I start with a standard/softcore playthrough first to get a hang for the game?

-Regarding builds, should I stick to some kind of standard or can I make my own and not end up with a completely worthless character? When looking a bit at streams every single one of them seems to play some kind of spectral throw build :<

There are 4 leagues; Standard, Hardcore, Domination, and Nemesis. Hardcore and Nemesis leagues are "Hardcore", in that if you die, your char gets moved out of that league and into Standard. Therefore, you won't lose the progress on that char, but won't be able to play in the HC leagues with that character anymore.

Standard and Hardcore are the "permanent" leagues which have been around for nearly a year now. Domination and Nemesis are new leagues with added mechanics; this adds some difficulty, but makes the game more fun and interesting for sure. Domination is a "Softcore" league; if you die here, you will still be in Domination, while if you play Nemesis, deaths will send you to Standard. These 2 new leagues were just released, so there are a lot of people playing still in the low levels and low-mid level gear should not be too hard to find. The majority of the TL guild is also within these two leagues. You should probably start in Domination or Nemesis for these reasons. If you'd like a challenge, Nemesis can be a lot of fun, but Domination might be better if you want to learn the ropes first.

Your first character will probably suck; the game is not easy and there are a lot of small and big things to learn over time. A lot of the fun in the game is building new chars and perfecting builds, so don't get discouraged; borking one char a bit means your next one will be much better. I can point you to some good beginner builds if you let me know if you would rather play a Melee char, Ranger type, or spell caster; these builds should help you get going. Also, there's some good information in this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1p20l6/new_to_path_of_exile_or_have_no_idea_what_it_is/
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
October 28 2013 11:24 GMT
#10724
On October 28 2013 19:40 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 19:35 EchelonTee wrote:
Why Melee splash on your frenzy?


So I am not 100% sure on this, but I think the different targets I hit with Melee Splash count for the Cast on Crit Gem, so when I crit 3 Targets instead of 1 with my Frenzy, the chance of my Cast on Crit Trigger is 3 times as high. Tried it with Multistrike before, but I think only the initial hit counts, so the extra attacks from multistrike do nothing for my build.

Hmm I'm not sure on that one. Do you get 3 Frenzy charges from one Multistrike hit? I feel like Multistrike would be more suitable if it did work with cast on crit.

seems like your build would be really great for party play; conduit, shocks, and freezing everywhere. I'd love to see it in action.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
October 28 2013 11:28 GMT
#10725
On October 28 2013 20:24 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 19:40 Vallelol wrote:
On October 28 2013 19:35 EchelonTee wrote:
Why Melee splash on your frenzy?


So I am not 100% sure on this, but I think the different targets I hit with Melee Splash count for the Cast on Crit Gem, so when I crit 3 Targets instead of 1 with my Frenzy, the chance of my Cast on Crit Trigger is 3 times as high. Tried it with Multistrike before, but I think only the initial hit counts, so the extra attacks from multistrike do nothing for my build.

Hmm I'm not sure on that one. Do you get 3 Frenzy charges from one Multistrike hit? I feel like Multistrike would be more suitable if it did work with cast on crit.

seems like your build would be really great for party play; conduit, shocks, and freezing everywhere. I'd love to see it in action.


Only the first hit of Multistrike gives me a Frenzy Charge thats the reason I swapped it out, since it doesnt give me any advantage at all.
Another idea would be using GMP Frenzy with a wand instead of using a dagger, but i would lose a bunch of critchance to trigger the discharges
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
October 28 2013 11:34 GMT
#10726
I think you need to conclusively figure out if melee splash triggers Cast on Crit; if it does, then when you melee splash a mob, you'd hit anywhere from 3-8 mobs, which is a respectable amount of hits. If it doesn't then GMP Frenzy with a wand would be way more hits, and therefore more crits overall. Wands would also be safer cus you wouldn't have to be as close.

Though whirling blading in and whacking the monsters in melee sounds pretty manly.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
October 28 2013 12:27 GMT
#10727
On October 28 2013 20:14 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 19:39 BobMcJohnson wrote:
So, I just downloaded the game, and I'm not really sure what I should do first, hope you guys willl be able to enlighten me a bit, since I didnt play much Diablo2/3 before.

-What exactly are those league I can choose at the start? Are they just some kind of increased difficulty mode or is there something more to them?
-Should I start in one of them or should I start with a standard/softcore playthrough first to get a hang for the game?

-Regarding builds, should I stick to some kind of standard or can I make my own and not end up with a completely worthless character? When looking a bit at streams every single one of them seems to play some kind of spectral throw build :<

There are 4 leagues; Standard, Hardcore, Domination, and Nemesis. Hardcore and Nemesis leagues are "Hardcore", in that if you die, your char gets moved out of that league and into Standard. Therefore, you won't lose the progress on that char, but won't be able to play in the HC leagues with that character anymore.

Standard and Hardcore are the "permanent" leagues which have been around for nearly a year now. Domination and Nemesis are new leagues with added mechanics; this adds some difficulty, but makes the game more fun and interesting for sure. Domination is a "Softcore" league; if you die here, you will still be in Domination, while if you play Nemesis, deaths will send you to Standard. These 2 new leagues were just released, so there are a lot of people playing still in the low levels and low-mid level gear should not be too hard to find. The majority of the TL guild is also within these two leagues. You should probably start in Domination or Nemesis for these reasons. If you'd like a challenge, Nemesis can be a lot of fun, but Domination might be better if you want to learn the ropes first.

Your first character will probably suck; the game is not easy and there are a lot of small and big things to learn over time. A lot of the fun in the game is building new chars and perfecting builds, so don't get discouraged; borking one char a bit means your next one will be much better. I can point you to some good beginner builds if you let me know if you would rather play a Melee char, Ranger type, or spell caster; these builds should help you get going. Also, there's some good information in this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1p20l6/new_to_path_of_exile_or_have_no_idea_what_it_is/



Pretty sure that if you die in domination your character stays in domination. It only gets moved after the league is complete ie after 4 months. Spot on for nemesis tho.
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
October 28 2013 12:30 GMT
#10728
Hi, just found out that there is a PoE section on TL, cool ^^
Is there by any chance a Guild you guys host where one could join? (playing Nemesis but just ripped in Merc TT, rerolling EK scion)
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
October 28 2013 12:38 GMT
#10729
On October 28 2013 20:14 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 19:39 BobMcJohnson wrote:
So, I just downloaded the game, and I'm not really sure what I should do first, hope you guys willl be able to enlighten me a bit, since I didnt play much Diablo2/3 before.

-What exactly are those league I can choose at the start? Are they just some kind of increased difficulty mode or is there something more to them?
-Should I start in one of them or should I start with a standard/softcore playthrough first to get a hang for the game?

-Regarding builds, should I stick to some kind of standard or can I make my own and not end up with a completely worthless character? When looking a bit at streams every single one of them seems to play some kind of spectral throw build :<

There are 4 leagues; Standard, Hardcore, Domination, and Nemesis. Hardcore and Nemesis leagues are "Hardcore", in that if you die, your char gets moved out of that league and into Standard. Therefore, you won't lose the progress on that char, but won't be able to play in the HC leagues with that character anymore.

Standard and Hardcore are the "permanent" leagues which have been around for nearly a year now. Domination and Nemesis are new leagues with added mechanics; this adds some difficulty, but makes the game more fun and interesting for sure. Domination is a "Softcore" league; if you die here, you will still be in Domination, while if you play Nemesis, deaths will send you to Standard. These 2 new leagues were just released, so there are a lot of people playing still in the low levels and low-mid level gear should not be too hard to find. The majority of the TL guild is also within these two leagues. You should probably start in Domination or Nemesis for these reasons. If you'd like a challenge, Nemesis can be a lot of fun, but Domination might be better if you want to learn the ropes first.

Your first character will probably suck; the game is not easy and there are a lot of small and big things to learn over time. A lot of the fun in the game is building new chars and perfecting builds, so don't get discouraged; borking one char a bit means your next one will be much better. I can point you to some good beginner builds if you let me know if you would rather play a Melee char, Ranger type, or spell caster; these builds should help you get going. Also, there's some good information in this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1p20l6/new_to_path_of_exile_or_have_no_idea_what_it_is/


Thanks for the explanations on the leagues !

And yeah, good thing for the builds. Experimenting with builds and the huge number of possibilities was kinda the thing that spiked my interest in the game so I was a bit afraid of being forced to go into a specific optimal build after seeing every single streamer using a spectral throw build :<
Romanes eunt domus
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
October 28 2013 14:49 GMT
#10730
On October 28 2013 21:30 gCgCrypto wrote:
Hi, just found out that there is a PoE section on TL, cool ^^
Is there by any chance a Guild you guys host where one could join? (playing Nemesis but just ripped in Merc TT, rerolling EK scion)

If you are back again in merci and geared up for maps hit me up ingame: GGGamecrash
We're a core group of 4 guys (german ). No Guild or anything just mapping dudes.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
October 28 2013 14:54 GMT
#10731
On October 28 2013 23:49 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 21:30 gCgCrypto wrote:
Hi, just found out that there is a PoE section on TL, cool ^^
Is there by any chance a Guild you guys host where one could join? (playing Nemesis but just ripped in Merc TT, rerolling EK scion)

If you are back again in merci and geared up for maps hit me up ingame: GGGamecrash
We're a core group of 4 guys (german ). No Guild or anything just mapping dudes.


Why don't you join the TL Guild then? :O
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
October 28 2013 15:16 GMT
#10732
Where is the TL guild. Would love to join.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 28 2013 15:23 GMT
#10733
I have a few questions.
I played the beta in spring. I liked many game concepts and the game's complexity. However, there were a few issues which killed the fun for me:

- Many dull or monotonous areas without any visual highlights, generally a bleak, grey-ish graphics style.
- A hard to read minimap made of a wireframe and huge dungeons, so I got lost easily.
- The worst story presentation I've ever seen in a video game. I never knew or cared what I was actually doing.
- Orbs instead of an actual currency, resulting in difficulty of estimating an item's value and lots of inventory clutter.

Are these points still part of the game or has it changed a lot since I played?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 28 2013 15:24 GMT
#10734
are guilds league specific? I have some map quality/level hardcore characters but I think hardcore league is dead? Sucks because I'm pretty rich in hardcore. ~_~


I think Nemesis is the new 'hardcore' league, right?
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DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
October 28 2013 15:28 GMT
#10735
Just died in Nemesis. Empty stash now, damn!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 15:32:22
October 28 2013 15:31 GMT
#10736
On October 29 2013 00:16 Crissaegrim wrote:
Where is the TL guild. Would love to join.

Message an officer in game
I have no idea who is on though, try: @AinSophAur, @TheMango
On October 29 2013 00:23 Scorch wrote:
I have a few questions.
I played the beta in spring. I liked many game concepts and the game's complexity. However, there were a few issues which killed the fun for me:

- Many dull or monotonous areas without any visual highlights, generally a bleak, grey-ish graphics style.
- A hard to read minimap made of a wireframe and huge dungeons, so I got lost easily.
- The worst story presentation I've ever seen in a video game. I never knew or cared what I was actually doing.
- Orbs instead of an actual currency, resulting in difficulty of estimating an item's value and lots of inventory clutter.

Are these points still part of the game or has it changed a lot since I played?

-The art direction hasn't seriously changed. It is meant to invoke a bleak atmosphere.
-The minimap hasn't changed.
-The story presentation has been SIGNIFICANTLY developed.
-The currency system (One of the best designed elements of the game and a key draw) remains in place.
On October 29 2013 00:24 crms wrote:
are guilds league specific? I have some map quality/level hardcore characters but I think hardcore league is dead? Sucks because I'm pretty rich in hardcore. ~_~
I think Nemesis is the new 'hardcore' league, right?

Guilds span across all leagues, since accounts join guilds not just characters. Nemesis is the most active hardcore yes but players will trickle back into regular hardcore as they die on nemesis and want to play their high-level hardcore characters or whatever.
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
October 28 2013 15:36 GMT
#10737
On October 29 2013 00:23 Scorch wrote:
I have a few questions.
I played the beta in spring. I liked many game concepts and the game's complexity. However, there were a few issues which killed the fun for me:

- Many dull or monotonous areas without any visual highlights, generally a bleak, grey-ish graphics style.
- A hard to read minimap made of a wireframe and huge dungeons, so I got lost easily.
- The worst story presentation I've ever seen in a video game. I never knew or cared what I was actually doing.
- Orbs instead of an actual currency, resulting in difficulty of estimating an item's value and lots of inventory clutter.

Are these points still part of the game or has it changed a lot since I played?


It's an indie, F2P game, so the visuals and story presentation are going to be on that level. But, they've vastly improved a lot the visuals of many zones. Fetid pool for example was very ugly initially, but it's got dark lightning and some smoke effect that makes it pretty cool now.

Minimap/map are functional, so getting lost is your fault and not the game's. The currency is by design and will never change.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 18:47:53
October 28 2013 18:41 GMT
#10738
On October 29 2013 00:24 crms wrote:
are guilds league specific? I have some map quality/level hardcore characters but I think hardcore league is dead? Sucks because I'm pretty rich in hardcore. ~_~


I think Nemesis is the new 'hardcore' league, right?


The TL guild is not league specific. You will probably have a hard time finding people to play old leagues with.

Yes, Nemesis is the new hardcore league.

On October 29 2013 00:16 Crissaegrim wrote:
Where is the TL guild. Would love to join.


You can message @AinSophAur ; I'm logging in right now. @TheMango is also online.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 28 2013 19:42 GMT
#10739
Man, All the items for sale on the domination forums are so bad I think it might be more efficient to just roll my own

Also having to run purity sux lol.
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Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
October 28 2013 21:16 GMT
#10740
Any tips on beating dominus as a summoner witch on normal? I can get into p2, but then I just get clubbed to death
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
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