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Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
October 27 2013 21:05 GMT
#10701
On October 28 2013 05:26 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote: And it's definitely not nostalgia or because we are too old, it's just that today's games cater to a demographic that I personally cannot identify with. This casualization of games is a problem that is evident in any good series that ever came out.

Funny story; my friend was complaining how PoE was too hard. I asked him why, and he said he didnt like how he had to play the first portion of the game with no weapon. He didn't pick up the weapon laying right in front of him at the start T_T

How did he kill anything with no weapon and nothing to socket the skill gem into...
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 21:13:57
October 27 2013 21:13 GMT
#10702
[QUOTE]On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 28 2013 03:00 zdfgucker wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 28 2013 01:43 SlixSC wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 27 2013 17:04 HolydaKing wrote:
[QUOTE]On October 27 2013 14:40 SlixSC wrote:
Cast on Damage Taken + Portal Gem = Kappa[/QUOTE]
What happens? New TP everywhere? Glad that you reinstalled? [/QUOTE]




Part of it has to do with the fact that publishers pressure game developers to release their games as soon as possible, there is so much less fine-tuning and detailed work that goes into games nowadays, because everyone just wants to maximize their profit. Just look at games like Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, huge games and while playing these games you could really feel how much hard work and love was put into these games, today's games however feel unrefined and more like pre-releases than full games. And the fact that most games have post-release patches en masse actually proves that point.


Aaaand I'm rambling again[/QUOTE]
Maybe you're just playing the wrong genre. I never played much balburs gate 1-2 (except for ps2 versions). I did play some icewind dale, fallout 1-2, Morrowind and I never stopped to feel how much hard work were put into the game. I just wanted to get rid of the constant dialogues and kill stuff. I agree though, Oblivion was not a good game . Games that you spend all the time reading / exploring is really just boring. You can do that in real life. I thought the point of rpg's was to shoot fireballs at stuff in fantasy worlds.

People praise diablo 1 and 2 to be some of the best games ever, when in reality there was just a bunch of 1-liners, mostly in "demon" voices and then back to killing stuff and ninjalooting again.

edit: quoting is hard
sprættemætute
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 27 2013 21:13 GMT
#10703
On October 28 2013 06:05 Nibbler89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 05:26 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote: And it's definitely not nostalgia or because we are too old, it's just that today's games cater to a demographic that I personally cannot identify with. This casualization of games is a problem that is evident in any good series that ever came out.

Funny story; my friend was complaining how PoE was too hard. I asked him why, and he said he didnt like how he had to play the first portion of the game with no weapon. He didn't pick up the weapon laying right in front of him at the start T_T

How did he kill anything with no weapon and nothing to socket the skill gem into...

LOL, you guys made me laugh really hard. :D Funny story!
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
October 27 2013 21:33 GMT
#10704
On October 28 2013 05:26 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote: And it's definitely not nostalgia or because we are too old, it's just that today's games cater to a demographic that I personally cannot identify with. This casualization of games is a problem that is evident in any good series that ever came out.

Funny story; my friend was complaining how PoE was too hard. I asked him why, and he said he didnt like how he had to play the first portion of the game with no weapon. He didn't pick up the weapon laying right in front of him at the start T_T

I did the exact same my first time.

PoE gameplay is fun, but the setting is a snoozefest. Playing PoE just makes me wish Diablo 2 was new again, and everyone was playing. The setting was 10x better, the music was better, and it didn't De-sync.
That being said, PoE is still a great game. I just wish the setting wasn't so boring.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
October 27 2013 22:01 GMT
#10705
On October 28 2013 06:05 Nibbler89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 05:26 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote: And it's definitely not nostalgia or because we are too old, it's just that today's games cater to a demographic that I personally cannot identify with. This casualization of games is a problem that is evident in any good series that ever came out.

Funny story; my friend was complaining how PoE was too hard. I asked him why, and he said he didnt like how he had to play the first portion of the game with no weapon. He didn't pick up the weapon laying right in front of him at the start T_T

How did he kill anything with no weapon and nothing to socket the skill gem into...

he punched hillock to death LOL
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
October 27 2013 22:19 GMT
#10706
Looking for people to play with. Currently a 45 freezing pulse shadow on nemesis.

ID Is Hydreax
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
October 27 2013 23:06 GMT
#10707
On October 28 2013 06:33 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 05:26 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote: And it's definitely not nostalgia or because we are too old, it's just that today's games cater to a demographic that I personally cannot identify with. This casualization of games is a problem that is evident in any good series that ever came out.

Funny story; my friend was complaining how PoE was too hard. I asked him why, and he said he didnt like how he had to play the first portion of the game with no weapon. He didn't pick up the weapon laying right in front of him at the start T_T

PoE gameplay is fun, but the setting is a snoozefest. Playing PoE just makes me wish Diablo 2 was new again, and everyone was playing. The setting was 10x better, the music was better, and it didn't De-sync.
That being said, PoE is still a great game. I just wish the setting wasn't so boring.


Yeah, I agree. Setting and mood was sooo good in d2. PoE still has decent mood and fitting areas but lacks music and setting to great extend.

And yes, casualisation, the death of good series'.. :'(
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 23:36:26
October 27 2013 23:35 GMT
#10708
On October 28 2013 07:01 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:05 Nibbler89 wrote:
On October 28 2013 05:26 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote: And it's definitely not nostalgia or because we are too old, it's just that today's games cater to a demographic that I personally cannot identify with. This casualization of games is a problem that is evident in any good series that ever came out.

Funny story; my friend was complaining how PoE was too hard. I asked him why, and he said he didnt like how he had to play the first portion of the game with no weapon. He didn't pick up the weapon laying right in front of him at the start T_T

How did he kill anything with no weapon and nothing to socket the skill gem into...

he punched hillock to death LOL

New hc league? weapons are for girly men, punch everything to death. Facebreaker value skyrockets.
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 23:45:44
October 27 2013 23:43 GMT
#10709
On October 28 2013 06:13 ZoRoXo wrote:
Maybe you're just playing the wrong genre. I never played much balburs gate 1-2 (except for ps2 versions). I did play some icewind dale, fallout 1-2, Morrowind and I never stopped to feel how much hard work were put into the game. I just wanted to get rid of the constant dialogues and kill stuff. I agree though, Oblivion was not a good game . Games that you spend all the time reading / exploring is really just boring. You can do that in real life. I thought the point of rpg's was to shoot fireballs at stuff in fantasy worlds.

People praise diablo 1 and 2 to be some of the best games ever, when in reality there was just a bunch of 1-liners, mostly in "demon" voices and then back to killing stuff and ninjalooting again.

edit: quoting is hard

I think you've misunderstood my post.

I repeatedly pointed out that PoE is a great game compared to all that other trash that game developers put out today (with few exceptions).

However, I think that GGG don't have a very good understanding of how game mechanics should work and how to balance a game.

For example, the game developers have said on several occasions that the reason for desync is the relation of server to client with no artificial latency (for example, in SC2, there is a few miliseconds of delay, it's barely noticeable and has no impact on the gameplay, but on a microscopic level - in a sense - SC2 is less responsive to the client than Path of Exile.)

The reason, they argue, this is the case is for players to have 100% control over their character, they want players to be able to dodge attacks and spells 100% of the time, if they are good enough to do that.

But, given that argument, it makes no sense to have boss fights like Dominus in the game, who in his second form is guaranteed to hit and damage you, no matter what you do as a player, or even Merveil with her ice nova is guaranteed to hit you, which makes these bosses nothing but gearcheck bosses in the end, contradicting the previous argument of "we want players to be able to dodge spells and attacks". Vaal on the other hand (with the exception of the rocks), is a brilliantly designed boss, because you can avoid all of his attacks if you are good enough.

It's just self-contradicting, you cannot argue for one thing and then have the complete opposite of that in your game. These are game mechanics that I personally despise, because they remove control from the player and make it a pure gear-check.

Balance-wise (especially in racing) this game is a disaster and the recent cleave nerf demonstrates that GGG have no idea how to balance their own game. They take a skill, which isn't even the most powerful skill in racing, (*cough* leap slam *cough*) that 4 out of 6 classes heavily rely on and nerf it to the ground. The best race class, duelist, is barely affected by it and comparatively even better now, while shadow/ranger/templar all got nerfed to the ground.

This is not how you balance a game, it simply defies logic.

Path of Exile in my opinion is a fluke, it's a great game (by today's standards), but not because GGG are talented developers, they just took an idea that works (ARPG grinding) and lucked out because Blizzard is totally incompetent. On the grand scheme of things, comparing it with D2, it's a terrible game, but compared to D3 and all the other trash that's out there today, it's an amazing game.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 27 2013 23:54 GMT
#10710
On October 28 2013 08:35 Nibbler89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 07:01 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:05 Nibbler89 wrote:
On October 28 2013 05:26 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote: And it's definitely not nostalgia or because we are too old, it's just that today's games cater to a demographic that I personally cannot identify with. This casualization of games is a problem that is evident in any good series that ever came out.

Funny story; my friend was complaining how PoE was too hard. I asked him why, and he said he didnt like how he had to play the first portion of the game with no weapon. He didn't pick up the weapon laying right in front of him at the start T_T

How did he kill anything with no weapon and nothing to socket the skill gem into...

he punched hillock to death LOL

New hc league? weapons are for girly men, punch everything to death. Facebreaker value skyrockets.


So mad they nerfed Facebreakers :/
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
October 28 2013 04:54 GMT
#10711
Looking for people to play with/help me through the game (just started 2 days ago). As of this post I'm a 41 witch in A1 cruel.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
October 28 2013 05:06 GMT
#10712
Make sure to tell us which League you're in. =)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
October 28 2013 08:43 GMT
#10713
On October 28 2013 08:35 Nibbler89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 07:01 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 28 2013 06:05 Nibbler89 wrote:
On October 28 2013 05:26 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 28 2013 03:33 SlixSC wrote: And it's definitely not nostalgia or because we are too old, it's just that today's games cater to a demographic that I personally cannot identify with. This casualization of games is a problem that is evident in any good series that ever came out.

Funny story; my friend was complaining how PoE was too hard. I asked him why, and he said he didnt like how he had to play the first portion of the game with no weapon. He didn't pick up the weapon laying right in front of him at the start T_T

How did he kill anything with no weapon and nothing to socket the skill gem into...

he punched hillock to death LOL

New hc league? weapons are for girly men, punch everything to death. Facebreaker value skyrockets.


Well, an Iron Man mode like in d2 isn't really possible I guess.^^
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
October 28 2013 08:47 GMT
#10714
Got a pretty stupid question, does Cast on Death + Portal Gem work? So I always have a portal when I die? :O
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
October 28 2013 09:11 GMT
#10715
I am doing similar build to what Kripp is doing, but not because of him. I wanted to play Scion and use new ranged attack and two handed sword passives are on the way to Acrobatics (I always take acrobatics for my non caster chars )

So far it is fun, more fun then I remember in Open Beta, I am still in normal act 3.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
October 28 2013 09:19 GMT
#10716
On October 28 2013 17:47 Vallelol wrote:
Got a pretty stupid question, does Cast on Death + Portal Gem work? So I always have a portal when I die? :O

it should, but I haven't tested it
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
October 28 2013 09:25 GMT
#10717
On October 28 2013 06:03 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 05:23 EchelonTee wrote:
On October 27 2013 22:13 Ota Solgryn wrote:
What are the best 5 gems to put together in a Lightstrike crit build?

I've never played an LS build to end game, but probably something like

Lightning Strike + Weapon Elemental Damage + Faster Attacks + Added Fire Damage + Multistrike + Elemental Proliferation

If you need to use Blood Magic gem swap out added fire or Multi

Since Weapon Ele got nerfed he has to see how what the DPS does. Last I played it was

Lightning Strike > Weapon Elemental Damage > Faster Attacks > Pierce > Multistrike and then either Mana Leech, Life Leech or something else like you said.

Thiough, Pierce is not necessary if the Lightning Strike gem has high quality. I somehow forgot LMP... Probably necessary too!

edit: Failed to notice he said Crit build... then I'd go: Lightning Strike, Lesser Multiple Projectiles, Faster Attacks, (Pierce), Increased Critical Multiplier, Multistrike, Increased Critcal Strikes in that order


Thanks for the replies guys. Some people say Fork is better than LSP? What do you think about that?
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
October 28 2013 09:33 GMT
#10718
I don't personally like Fork with LS. With a quality LS or pierce, your projectiles just shoot through the monsters; the AoE damage is quite satisfactory. Fork can work though.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
October 28 2013 10:15 GMT
#10719
Made a post about my Frenzy Discharger on the PoE forum, let me know what you think of the build!

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/556786
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
October 28 2013 10:35 GMT
#10720
Why Melee splash on your frenzy?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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