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Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
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post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 23 2013 20:21 GMT
#10441
Okay cool, as long as I can still run purity and hatred I'm pretty happy. Sucks that I'll lose Determination, but melee characters should be okay-ish. Sucks that I'll have to use one of my attack skill sockets on Blood Magic though-- I do right now, but it seems like a nerf in a way. You could run one aura off a BM gem so you can have 5 supports on your main attack I guess, but losing that much hp seems pretty painful.

I haven't looked at the reduced reservation nodes yet though, so we'll see.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 23 2013 20:24 GMT
#10442
So I played this game back on beta phase... I noticed that steam also has this game now.

Is there a difference if I download it from their website or steam?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 20:29:07
October 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#10443
You literally cannot run BM-gem auras. With a start of 60% (.6) * 1.96 multiplier for level 20 BM gem, 0.71 multiplier for reduced mana, and 46% reduced reservation, we have:

(.6*1.96*.54*.71) = 45% of your HP reserved AFTER spending around 80 points getting every aura cost reduction node on the tree.

This is with level-20 gems as well, which takes plenty long.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 23 2013 20:27 GMT
#10444
On October 24 2013 05:24 trinxified wrote:
So I played this game back on beta phase... I noticed that steam also has this game now.

Is there a difference if I download it from their website or steam?

Not really. Steam probably downloads faster and you can do friends and stuff tho.
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
October 23 2013 20:30 GMT
#10445
just got into this game again last week, got a proper build (thanks echelontee) and now everything it all went to shit again
Kevmeister @ Dota2
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 23 2013 20:33 GMT
#10446
On October 24 2013 05:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 05:24 trinxified wrote:
So I played this game back on beta phase... I noticed that steam also has this game now.

Is there a difference if I download it from their website or steam?

Not really. Steam probably downloads faster and you can do friends and stuff tho.


Thanks. Crazy slow on steam right now though.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 23 2013 20:34 GMT
#10447
On October 24 2013 05:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
You literally cannot run BM-gem auras. With a start of 60% (.6) * 1.96 multiplier for level 20 BM gem, 0.71 multiplier for reduced mana, and 46% reduced reservation, we have:

(.6*1.96*.54*.71) = 45% of your HP reserved AFTER spending around 80 points getting every aura cost reduction node on the tree.

This is with level-20 gems as well, which takes plenty long.


Yeah, I didn't expect the math to be very pretty. I wonder if we'll see higher level players/ guilds do things like create an aura or support-type character by leveling them up normally then doing a massive reset for the reduced mana reservations and such to run a ton of auras for teammates.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 23 2013 20:50 GMT
#10448
From what I can tell you can run 4 auras and pretend to be useful, or 5 auras (all cast using alpha howl) and not even bother pretending usefulness beyond the auras. Clarity/Purity notwithstanding. Of course, the numbers aren't really in on how good the new auras are but the fact that you can get like 50% increased effect is pretty big.

BTW apparently it only takes about 55 points to get all the aura passives so dropping another 30 into survivability leaves you with about 15 nodes to play around with. Again you won't do much but you can achieve something with a build like that. Just need to figure out what lets you stay mega-far back and does decent damage without any damage nodes at all. You could grab the curse nodes but then you'd literally do nothing but double/triple curse and do auras rofl.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 23 2013 21:18 GMT
#10449
On October 24 2013 05:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
From what I can tell you can run 4 auras and pretend to be useful, or 5 auras (all cast using alpha howl) and not even bother pretending usefulness beyond the auras. Clarity/Purity notwithstanding. Of course, the numbers aren't really in on how good the new auras are but the fact that you can get like 50% increased effect is pretty big.

BTW apparently it only takes about 55 points to get all the aura passives so dropping another 30 into survivability leaves you with about 15 nodes to play around with. Again you won't do much but you can achieve something with a build like that. Just need to figure out what lets you stay mega-far back and does decent damage without any damage nodes at all. You could grab the curse nodes but then you'd literally do nothing but double/triple curse and do auras rofl.


The most important part of the party that nobody wants to play.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 23 2013 21:23 GMT
#10450
On October 24 2013 06:18 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 05:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
From what I can tell you can run 4 auras and pretend to be useful, or 5 auras (all cast using alpha howl) and not even bother pretending usefulness beyond the auras. Clarity/Purity notwithstanding. Of course, the numbers aren't really in on how good the new auras are but the fact that you can get like 50% increased effect is pretty big.

BTW apparently it only takes about 55 points to get all the aura passives so dropping another 30 into survivability leaves you with about 15 nodes to play around with. Again you won't do much but you can achieve something with a build like that. Just need to figure out what lets you stay mega-far back and does decent damage without any damage nodes at all. You could grab the curse nodes but then you'd literally do nothing but double/triple curse and do auras rofl.


The most important part of the party that nobody wants to play.

I don't think I'd mind playing it toooooo much if I had a legit party to play with all the time but I play solo or 2 most of the time so
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 23 2013 21:29 GMT
#10451
On October 24 2013 06:18 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 05:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
From what I can tell you can run 4 auras and pretend to be useful, or 5 auras (all cast using alpha howl) and not even bother pretending usefulness beyond the auras. Clarity/Purity notwithstanding. Of course, the numbers aren't really in on how good the new auras are but the fact that you can get like 50% increased effect is pretty big.

BTW apparently it only takes about 55 points to get all the aura passives so dropping another 30 into survivability leaves you with about 15 nodes to play around with. Again you won't do much but you can achieve something with a build like that. Just need to figure out what lets you stay mega-far back and does decent damage without any damage nodes at all. You could grab the curse nodes but then you'd literally do nothing but double/triple curse and do auras rofl.


The most important part of the party that nobody wants to play.
Standard mmorpg game mechanic failure.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 23 2013 21:30 GMT
#10452
Well with 9 auras total (10 including clarity, but it isn't % so anybody could run that) and each group member taking two auras then you would have the full set or just about. Since you basically can't run blood magic and auras though I'm not sure every group member can actually run auras.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 23 2013 21:31 GMT
#10453
You can have groups of 8 right so 1 aura each almost covers it.

The issue is kinda "matching" your auras. And having 8 people
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 23 2013 21:40 GMT
#10454
FUCK

Kripp is doing the same build as me and now my shit will be 'spensive. T_T
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 23 2013 21:47 GMT
#10455
1. Make a character that runs 10 auras
2. Culling strike with a bunch of IIQ/IIR
3. Charge a certain amount of currency per hour or per map to players
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 23:00:30
October 23 2013 22:27 GMT
#10456
On October 24 2013 06:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
You can have groups of 8 right so 1 aura each almost covers it.

The issue is kinda "matching" your auras. And having 8 people


Did they change it? I thought it was 6.

It also isn't that hard to have a bank with a 20/20 of each aura.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 22:41:52
October 23 2013 22:31 GMT
#10457
Feel like the game isn't fun at all anymore. Tried cleave, realized it got nerfed into the ground, my RoA lvl 81 char can't even run more than 2 auras anymore (6 pre-patch). It's very, very frustrating, I mean I get it "it's a new challenge" and everything, but the game is so imbalanced at this point it's just not even fun to play.

What's the point of beta-testing for 2 years when you are just going to break the game at release? Seems like the last 2 years were a waste of time for everyone.

I don't understand this idea of constantly making the game harder for players, I love challenging games don't get me wrong, but at some point they should just let players have fun. What's the point of playing a video game when my character ingame feels weaker than I do in real life?

Like seriously, the cleave char I tried felt like a weaker form of myself. I don't play video games to experience a worse type of reality. The reason I play ARPGs specifically to feel buffed and incredibly overpowered, but at this point characters just feel like a piece of shit.

Look at Kripp's stream, they found gg weapons for their level (200 dps top end lvl 28) and their damage is mediocre, how fucking stupid.

In other words, I'm done with this game, uninstall and won't play it ever again unless they massively buff players, in the last 10 patches most characters got nerfed, while monsters got harder and harder. if they value difficulty over fun, then fine, but if I can't even sustain the mana cost with cleave running a single freaking aura, then there is no fun and the difficulty is artificial in that you as a player just get fucked over for no reason.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 23 2013 22:55 GMT
#10458
Caaaaan I get a guild invite

(SnO_Scion is the character I'm playing on for the moment)
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 23 2013 23:05 GMT
#10459
If you want a guild invite it is a lot more effective to message one of the officers in game. People are busy playing and not reading the topic. Message one of these fine gentlemen:
rEvolutionTU
AinSophAur
Varanice
echelontee
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
October 23 2013 23:10 GMT
#10460
Streaming with four friends from my home; tune in to see some random german dudes owning Nemesis league totaly sleepthirsty! www.twitch.tv/bluquh
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
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