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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 20 2013 05:31 GMT
#7761
New uniques!

2H minion mace: http://i.imgur.com/AkvgHQ9.png
Aura/Cannot be frozen EV helm: http://i.imgur.com/37wr6UR.png
And... well... a lvl 1 chest. Aptly named. http://imgur.com/QCHn6zQ

"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 07:56:36
March 20 2013 06:12 GMT
#7762
On March 20 2013 13:37 Spazer wrote:
So I'm doing a bow marauder.

Current build
Planned build

My question is this: is it worth getting the keystones for permanent curses and the additional curse? Since I'm getting static blows, permanent curses is only 4 nodes away, with double curses being another 4. Then I could run something like enfeeble with temporal chains. I'd have to give up some nodes in the ranger side of the tree in order to accomplish this though.


Your nodes in the Ranger tree are pretty useless. You only need 179 DEX to use a thicket bow. Unless you have plans to use lioneye's there is absolutely no reason to overcap that much DEX. More so because you're picking up four useless DEX nodes to get 4% attack speed and 30% WED as these nodes aren't that great. The thick skin may be worthwhile since you're in that area already, but I think most of the passives in that area are overrated. If you want to pick up more damage I'd head into the duelist tree further for all those speed attack speed nodes instead of heading over to Ranger. Post buff the ranger tree looks like utter shit compared to the duelist start.

My 85 Point Marauder build

Currently playing with this still. I have just enough DEX to reach thicket with Light Quiver+Onyx when I reach level 56. Still debating if I want to pick up Unwavering stance and IR or if I'm gonna play without them and live in fear of rhoas, but I think it will be manageable. I'm also considering redoing the RT/Endurance charge area and refunding the points to bloodmagic to just run with four endurance charges. This will give me enough points to pick up some additional hitpoints and some other oddities. Almost to level 50 and I can pretty much tank anything with endurance charges. Some things are still bullshit like Voidbearers with LMP, but I don't think it is actually possible to tank them so ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 20 2013 06:19 GMT
#7763
When should I remove the passive "cannot evade, cannot be stunned"? I mean, at some point I assume you get enough hp that its no longer worth it.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
March 20 2013 06:30 GMT
#7764
On March 20 2013 15:19 shabby wrote:
When should I remove the passive "cannot evade, cannot be stunned"? I mean, at some point I assume you get enough hp that its no longer worth it.


evasion is essentially a useless stat. everybody gets iron reflexes. so it basically reads "cannot be stunned".
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 20 2013 07:06 GMT
#7765
On March 20 2013 15:30 Entertaining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 15:19 shabby wrote:
When should I remove the passive "cannot evade, cannot be stunned"? I mean, at some point I assume you get enough hp that its no longer worth it.


evasion is essentially a useless stat. everybody gets iron reflexes. so it basically reads "cannot be stunned".


Yeah, but when I get enough hp, will anyone be able to stun me anyway? Except maybe the bosses.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 07:11:51
March 20 2013 07:08 GMT
#7766
On March 20 2013 16:06 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 15:30 Entertaining wrote:
On March 20 2013 15:19 shabby wrote:
When should I remove the passive "cannot evade, cannot be stunned"? I mean, at some point I assume you get enough hp that its no longer worth it.


evasion is essentially a useless stat. everybody gets iron reflexes. so it basically reads "cannot be stunned".


Yeah, but when I get enough hp, will anyone be able to stun me anyway? Except maybe the bosses.


Even if you have 10k health you can still get stunned. I guess it'd be pretty hard for you to get stunlocked at that chance, but if you're picking up IR/US then I don't think it is worthwhile to get rid of it.

On March 20 2013 15:30 Entertaining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 15:19 shabby wrote:
When should I remove the passive "cannot evade, cannot be stunned"? I mean, at some point I assume you get enough hp that its no longer worth it.


evasion is essentially a useless stat. everybody gets iron reflexes. so it basically reads "cannot be stunned".


Evasion is definitely not a useless stat. Armor and Evasion are both pretty terrible for damage mitigation.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 20 2013 07:12 GMT
#7767
I'm not getting iron reflexes, is too far away. :p
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 20 2013 07:32 GMT
#7768
there's a lot of good stuff on the way to iron reflexes; berserking, a life cluster, diamond skin, endurance, and a frenzy charge
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 20 2013 07:54 GMT
#7769
On March 20 2013 16:12 shabby wrote:
I'm not getting iron reflexes, is too far away. :p


I doubt it's worthwhile to drop evasion entirely if you aren't using Iron Reflexes to drop yourself down to 5% already.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 20 2013 08:41 GMT
#7770
Just got my Kripp-copy wand templar to the switch, and holy fuck is chain/lmp/WED/Power siphon a metric fuckton of mana. Now I know why he specs all the way into the 40% mana regen at witch; YOU NEED IT SO BAD.

But the build is fun! I don't know what I like more, the wand templar or my BM LA Ranger. I know most people find these builds boring but for a newbie to POE, I'm having good fun.
Writer@WriterYamato
honed
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada482 Posts
March 20 2013 09:09 GMT
#7771
ign is hoyaek on hardcore. level 72 ek witch. looking to start mapping soon.(yes i did farm docks until 72)
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 20 2013 09:41 GMT
#7772
On March 20 2013 16:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 16:12 shabby wrote:
I'm not getting iron reflexes, is too far away. :p


I doubt it's worthwhile to drop evasion entirely if you aren't using Iron Reflexes to drop yourself down to 5% already.


Aight, thanks. Might just drop the stun passive then to try it out. My skilltree is a little bit everywhere atm. I'm half way to iron reflexes because I wanted diamond skin or whatsitsname, lol. I'll post my tree later for critique!
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Slythape
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia689 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 09:58:16
March 20 2013 09:54 GMT
#7773
What would you suggest to someone who had experience playing a FP marauder, LA ranger and EK witch in default to start playing in hardcore?

Have experience up to 74 maps, died a about 2 or 3 times in maps on my marauder(level 82), less than 10 on my ranger(level 83, first character) and my EK witch just started doing low level maps with no deaths. (tho i did die before maps on most of my characters due to cockiness and carelessness and maybe a few desyncs)

Should I stick with the builds I know or try something new like a templar wander or ele cleave templar?

lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
March 20 2013 10:15 GMT
#7774
I'd just recommend you stick to what you know and improve on it. Unless you're building wrong, it seems like you'd benefit more from improving yourself over your build.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Slythape
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia689 Posts
March 20 2013 10:31 GMT
#7775
That's what I thought, but I love playing my FP marauder, LA ranger and EK witch, all of them are tanky and do decent damage. Only reason I leveled so many of characters in my free time is that I usually just do higher level maps when my friends are online and my friends can only play after work(same goes for me).

But I have 0 currency in hardcore so starting something that requires decent gear to be good might be a challenge.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 20 2013 11:13 GMT
#7776
On March 20 2013 14:31 r.Evo wrote:
New uniques!

2H minion mace: http://i.imgur.com/AkvgHQ9.png
Aura/Cannot be frozen EV helm: http://i.imgur.com/37wr6UR.png
And... well... a lvl 1 chest. Aptly named. http://imgur.com/QCHn6zQ


Pretty sick helm. I want that for my CI elemental bow shadow. It is way better then Dream fragments ring I currently have.
I see I will need to start chancing that base item from now on :D
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 20 2013 11:42 GMT
#7777
On March 20 2013 18:41 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 16:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 20 2013 16:12 shabby wrote:
I'm not getting iron reflexes, is too far away. :p


I doubt it's worthwhile to drop evasion entirely if you aren't using Iron Reflexes to drop yourself down to 5% already.


Aight, thanks. Might just drop the stun passive then to try it out. My skilltree is a little bit everywhere atm. I'm half way to iron reflexes because I wanted diamond skin or whatsitsname, lol. I'll post my tree later for critique!


http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBAnEEswUtDjwPzBLhFCAUTRiRGS4ZhRo4GlUc5yDwIWAkqifVJ-0t0jIJNug26TpSOtg9D0CgROdGaU3YUEdQUFRJVw1YY1ivWfNfP2BLYSFko2aeah5qO3KpdO108Xbneu98u3zZffWMdozPkFWRzp65ns2fPqIAouqmZKcwp4SoGKlorKq53bvtwBrEFcRYxPbFisbYyZjSIdlh3sHjauSt51LsOO8O707wH_Iv8932SPe--tI=

Here it is atm. I've just removed blood magic to try to use some auras (which is why there are so many dex/intel passives). But tbh I think I might just go back, it is so annoying not having enough mana, and having to use blood magic gem instead of life leech (only have 5L weap). Apart from that the general idea is just to get as many hp nodes as possible, really.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
March 20 2013 13:20 GMT
#7778
Does the 5% buff on Cyclone damage make it worthwhile yet? It attacks twice so it went from a 70% damage effectiveness to a 80% damage effectiveness.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
March 20 2013 13:54 GMT
#7779
On March 20 2013 19:31 Slythape wrote:
That's what I thought, but I love playing my FP marauder, LA ranger and EK witch, all of them are tanky and do decent damage. Only reason I leveled so many of characters in my free time is that I usually just do higher level maps when my friends are online and my friends can only play after work(same goes for me).

But I have 0 currency in hardcore so starting something that requires decent gear to be good might be a challenge.


LA ranger and EK witch are both pretty easy on low currency/no currency. FP marauder is pretty much impossible unless you want to ground slam all the way into merciless. You need twink items to be able to do stuff like use poison arrow/firetrap until you can support FP. imo it'd be the hardest to start out as with 0 currency. I say this from experience, because that was one of the first things I tried to do when I started HC myself. It didn't end well.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 20 2013 16:29 GMT
#7780
On March 20 2013 22:54 Xinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 19:31 Slythape wrote:
That's what I thought, but I love playing my FP marauder, LA ranger and EK witch, all of them are tanky and do decent damage. Only reason I leveled so many of characters in my free time is that I usually just do higher level maps when my friends are online and my friends can only play after work(same goes for me).

But I have 0 currency in hardcore so starting something that requires decent gear to be good might be a challenge.


LA ranger and EK witch are both pretty easy on low currency/no currency.



Awesome.

My main is a lv77 LA ranger, but I recently rolled an alt EK witch. Glad to know she won't need much resources. LA can get by because it's pretty OP but if you want top end gear it's very expensive because so many LA players. I have a lot of currency (well relatively) maybe 20-25ish exalt worth but I never want to spend it lol. I just hoard it all, not sure why exactly.
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