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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 03 2013 19:44 GMT
#7181
eventually get a guy who shows me a 5L lvl 45 EV chest and wants only 2 alch for it.


lol don't know how long you spent in trade chat but the time might have been worth it getting a 5L for 2 Alch even if the iLvl on the item is low
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 20:07:04
March 03 2013 20:04 GMT
#7182
On March 04 2013 04:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 23:54 Zoler wrote:
On March 03 2013 23:51 Obstikal wrote:
On March 03 2013 23:49 Zoler wrote:
Bought this for 2 exalt 13 chaos, worth it? It was 4 sockets before but got it to 6 sockets with only 7 jewellers

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[image loading]


just took the source to look at the bow...

but it doesnt seem all that special tbh besides the high lightning dmg the phy looks okay at best


So.. no? :/


14 GCP for a thicket without attack speed is pretty ridiculous. You could have gotten a much better bow for that easily if you valued attack speed over damage like you should.


I have no idea what to value.... so like a bow with 1.70 atk speed and 100 less dps or so would be better than the one I have?

I went through every single bow in the entire forum and couldn't find a better deal :D At least not for that damage. I tried looking for the same amount of damage, but higher atk speed and the prices just went way way up...
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 20:19:37
March 03 2013 20:08 GMT
#7183
On March 04 2013 05:04 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 04:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 03 2013 23:54 Zoler wrote:
On March 03 2013 23:51 Obstikal wrote:
On March 03 2013 23:49 Zoler wrote:
Bought this for 2 exalt 13 chaos, worth it? It was 4 sockets before but got it to 6 sockets with only 7 jewellers

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


just took the source to look at the bow...

but it doesnt seem all that special tbh besides the high lightning dmg the phy looks okay at best


So.. no? :/


14 GCP for a thicket without attack speed is pretty ridiculous. You could have gotten a much better bow for that easily if you valued attack speed over damage like you should.


I have no idea what to value.... so like a bow with 1.70 atk speed and 100 less dps or so would be better than the one I have?


100 less dps is a poor choice of words. If your bow has a higher base attack speed you're going to end up with more damage per second even though you're sacrificing some damage (although technically you don't have to because attack speed is a suffix while all the damage rolls are prefixes; in terms of cost this works out though). Essentially you get gains from the additional attack speed which get further gains from all the attack speed from your gear/passives. These in turn propagate towards other gains like Wrath/Anger/elemental damage mods on armor which ends up being a much higher increase than merely having a damage mod on your bow.

I went through every single bow in the entire forum and couldn't find a better deal :D At least not for that damage. I tried looking for the same amount of damage, but higher atk speed and the prices just went way way up...


Well part of your problem is looking for the same damage. A good attack speed roll should give you much more damage output than a damage roll. Prices went up because having another damage stat is better ^_^ A proper comparison would be sacrificing one of the damage rolls to pick up attack speed. You'll probably still pay more because attack speed is that good, but you're also ending up with a better bow.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
March 03 2013 20:30 GMT
#7184
On March 04 2013 03:16 polity wrote:
how much auras are possible simultaneously? how much max mana do i need to get a good amount of auras?

You can have as many auras as you can fuel. Bear in mind that some auras are percentage based (Determination, for instance, reserves 40% I believe) instead of being concrete values (Clarity takes 60 mana at level 1). Percentage based auras do not scale in mana cost as they level. Value based auras do.

So the basic gist of it is that if you want a ton of auras, you're going to need two things. First, you need a leveled reduced mana gem linked to your percentage based auras. This will allow you to reduce 110-120% reserved mana to something actually achievable. Second, you need a blood magic gem linked to your value based auras (assuming there's not enough mana left over in your mana pool due to the percentage based auras).

And then there's this guy.
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 04 2013 00:42 GMT
#7185
I hope there's a 1 week race during spring break.. no way I'd ever have the time to all-nighter like a week of PoE with school and stuff.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
March 04 2013 01:24 GMT
#7186
What's a good 5th gem to go with LA+LMP+CHAIN+Life On Hit for a bloodmagic ranger?

Also, 4 chaos or so got me to this bow which is admittedly not spectacular, but not sure if I want to dump a bunch of chaos
if it's only ilvl 57. Think I would have a shot to get it much higher with just a few more chaos?

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Rarity: Rare
Empyrean Horn
Thicket Bow
--------
Bow
Quality: +20% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 38-111 (augmented)
Elemental Damage: 18-37 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 5.7% (augmented)
Attacks per Second: 1.72 (augmented)
--------
Requirements:
Level: 61 (gem)
Str (gem): 96
Dex: 179
Int (gem): 46
--------
78% increased Physical Damage
Adds 18-37 Fire Damage
11% increased Attack Speed
14% increased Critical Strike Chance
+119 to Accuracy Rating
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7595 Posts
March 04 2013 01:47 GMT
#7187
On March 04 2013 10:24 Ryalnos wrote:
What's a good 5th gem to go with LA+LMP+CHAIN+Life On Hit for a bloodmagic ranger?

Also, 4 chaos or so got me to this bow which is admittedly not spectacular, but not sure if I want to dump a bunch of chaos
if it's only ilvl 57. Think I would have a shot to get it much higher with just a few more chaos?

+ Show Spoiler +
Rarity: Rare
Empyrean Horn
Thicket Bow
--------
Bow
Quality: +20% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 38-111 (augmented)
Elemental Damage: 18-37 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 5.7% (augmented)
Attacks per Second: 1.72 (augmented)
--------
Requirements:
Level: 61 (gem)
Str (gem): 96
Dex: 179
Int (gem): 46
--------
78% increased Physical Damage
Adds 18-37 Fire Damage
11% increased Attack Speed
14% increased Critical Strike Chance
+119 to Accuracy Rating

Get a quality Weapon Elemental Damage(WED) for your LA. The bow otherwise....no idea about that stuff.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 04 2013 01:53 GMT
#7188
Weapon Elemental Damage for fifth gem. If you made it for only four chaos you're extremely lucky and you're not going to get much better than that. A divine orb could be worthwhile if you want to play with the attack speed, but you should doublecheck what else it might help/break first.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 02:35:15
March 04 2013 02:28 GMT
#7189
Yeah, it's not godly, but +phys%, ok fire and IAS were quite the dps upgrade from the previous one. Had good luck with that bow so far, it was 6 fusings to 5L.

Looks like I'm on the low end of the stats I care most about, is it really worth a divine?

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(78)
Wicked 23 Local Physical Damage +% 70 to 89
(11)
of Mastery 22 Local Attack Speed +% 11 to 13
(18-37)
Scorching 42 Local Minimum Added Fire Damage 18 to 24
Local Maximum Added Fire Damage 36 to 42


Is it more important to go after quality LMP or weapon elemental damage?
KiWiKaKi
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 02:35:44
March 04 2013 02:35 GMT
#7190
Trading some d3 items for poe hardcore items anyone interested? prolly not
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Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
March 04 2013 02:40 GMT
#7191
Server crashed, (me and my friend both d/c in different difficulties)log back in and my lvl 77 witch is in default. thats 2 70+ characters dead to server issues/ desync. T.T
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7595 Posts
March 04 2013 02:45 GMT
#7192
On March 04 2013 11:35 KiWiKaKi wrote:
Trading some d3 items for poe hardcore items anyone interested? prolly not


Perhaps.......or perhaps I just want to play PoE with you. Your move, KiWi.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 04 2013 02:56 GMT
#7193
Yeah I got out of D3 in the first week of RMAH when I could sell each piece of my inferno-gear for 250$ and never looked back.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 04 2013 02:59 GMT
#7194
On March 04 2013 11:28 Ryalnos wrote:
Yeah, it's not godly, but +phys%, ok fire and IAS were quite the dps upgrade from the previous one. Had good luck with that bow so far, it was 6 fusings to 5L.

Looks like I'm on the low end of the stats I care most about, is it really worth a divine?

+ Show Spoiler +

(78)
Wicked 23 Local Physical Damage +% 70 to 89
(11)
of Mastery 22 Local Attack Speed +% 11 to 13
(18-37)
Scorching 42 Local Minimum Added Fire Damage 18 to 24
Local Maximum Added Fire Damage 36 to 42


Is it more important to go after quality LMP or weapon elemental damage?


Attack speed is probably better (LMP), but quality gems are generally far more expensive than gear until you're dropping 10+GCP per piece.

An upgrade to that bow will cost you several exalted (at least 30 GCP) so I'd say dropping a Divine on it is worthwhile. It really depends on what sort of other gear you have though. Can you upgrade other pieces for less than 3GCP? If yes, then you should probably hold off on using a Divine on it, but eventually it will be worthwhile.

Be careful with the physical damage though. It rolled accuracy so it may have the double mod Physical%+ACC or just the ACC suffix. It is hard to say for sure when you have many possible mods. If you can sell it to the vendor for an augmentation then you know you have six mods already and there is some bad combos, but you should have five.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
March 04 2013 03:16 GMT
#7195
oh shit its kiwikaki in poe threads :D !! take my gears because you are so cool man! no jk lol

okay so I have a new build im doing a Ele Cleave marauder. I spent the past 2hours going over it so i'd appreciate any help to fine tune it.

I have two builds im debating on which to go

I like the first one better because I grab a lot more strength so that means more dps and more health and also unwavering stance would be awesome but I feel like i'm traveling a lot but I still get a lot of hp and at lvl 72 im able to start taking dmg nodes that I pass by or it's about a point or two on the way. I have options to take dmg or mana which ever I need at that moment.

Build #1


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+370 to Strength
+144 to Dexterity
+84 to Intelligence
+366 to maximum Mana
+721 to maximum Life
Evasion Rating: 266
+3 Maximum Endurance Charge
+3 Maximum Frenzy Charge
+3 Maximum Power Charge
5% Additional Elemental Resistance per Endurance Charge
5% Physical Damage Reduction per Endurance Charge
5% Attack Speed Increase per Frenzy Charge
5% Cast Speed Increase per Frenzy Charge
50% Critical Strike Chance Increase per Power Charge
221% increased maximum Life
3.4% of Life Regenerated per Second
You take 30% reduced Extra Damage from Critical Strikes
+25% to all Elemental Resistances
+5% to maximum Fire Resistance
+5% to maximum Cold Resistance
+5% to maximum Lightning Resistance
Your hits can't be Evaded
Never deal Critical Strikes
78% increased Armour
28% increased maximum Energy Shield
50% increased Elemental Damage with Weapons
Cannot Evade enemy Attacks
Cannot be Stunned
30% increased Effect of Buffs on You
Converts all Evasion Rating to Armour
12% increased Physical Damage with One Handed Melee Weapons
+16.8% Energy Shield
+74% increased Melee Physical Damage
+288 Accuracy Rating
28.8% increased Evasion Rating


Build #2
+ Show Spoiler +
+300 to Strength
+154 to Dexterity
+84 to Intelligence
+366 to maximum Mana
+686 to maximum Life
Evasion Rating: 266
+3 Maximum Endurance Charge
+3 Maximum Frenzy Charge
+3 Maximum Power Charge
5% Additional Elemental Resistance per Endurance Charge
5% Physical Damage Reduction per Endurance Charge
5% Attack Speed Increase per Frenzy Charge
5% Cast Speed Increase per Frenzy Charge
50% Critical Strike Chance Increase per Power Charge
225% increased maximum Life
3.9% of Life Regenerated per Second
You take 30% reduced Extra Damage from Critical Strikes
+25% to all Elemental Resistances
+5% to maximum Fire Resistance
+5% to maximum Cold Resistance
+5% to maximum Lightning Resistance
Your hits can't be Evaded
Never deal Critical Strikes
50% increased Elemental Damage with Weapons
80% increased Armour
28% increased maximum Energy Shield
30% increased Effect of Buffs on You
36% increased maximum Mana
20% increased Mana Regeneration Rate
40% increased Evasion Rating and Armour
Converts all Evasion Rating to Armour
+16.8% Energy Shield
+60% increased Melee Physical Damage
+308 Accuracy Rating
30.8% increased Evasion Rating
furlyman
Profile Joined September 2011
55 Posts
March 04 2013 03:28 GMT
#7196
currently lvl 85 #74 on hc ladder - hit me up if u wanna do maps @furlyhcshadow
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 03:45:19
March 04 2013 03:39 GMT
#7197
You should pick up all the endurance charges. They're too good to pass up when you're one point away from them. The only reason you wouldn't use enduring cry is because you're lazy. In softcore I can see you being lazy since dying doesn't matter, but there's really no reason in hardcore unless you know nothing can kill you.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 04 2013 04:31 GMT
#7198
you should take the aoe passives in the templar tree as well
also unwavering stance is pretty much required if you're melee
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
March 04 2013 04:35 GMT
#7199
oh man good ideas guys tyvm
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 15:37:19
March 04 2013 10:26 GMT
#7200
So while killing random stuffs in cruel (hardcore), I found a 9% quality Lightning Arrow. How much could I probably get for that?

Also was thinking doing minions was gonna be bad, but it has been pretty fun so far into cruel difficulty.
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