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Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
February 25 2013 22:54 GMT
#6821
Looking for more poeple to run maps with
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
February 25 2013 22:57 GMT
#6822
On February 26 2013 07:07 crms wrote:
I totally disagree with HC being a waste of time to play in current PoE.

I have had next to no major issues with lag and the brief moments I've experienced are easy to see coming and avoid. I'm not saying NOBODY dies to lag/desync issues but I think it's mostly a player scapegoat. The only time I ever noticed gameplay happering issues was during the race events.

All of my PoE friends and I play HC and of all our deaths in HC (I think between the 5 of us, 4-5 characters have died) only 1 was related to lag, and I wasn't even online at the time to confirm his story. Most players die because they fuck up.
I mostly agree with you, but what I've seen in today's race worries me. I know that Brutus likes to warp around, but even when you're out of sync, if you do the safe thing he can't hit you. The only way a ground slam is supposed to hit you is if you're already attacking him when he starts, or if you're running toward him. If you do the close-range circle strafing, he's as powerless as a fellshrine zombie. Plus, unless you're running straight at him or away from him, his hook cannot hit either.

I'm used to dealing with regular desyncs. You figure out what it probably looks like on the server, and you deal with it accordingly. But this was just something else. My ping was low, my health updated like it usually does, but everything was just.. so.. much.. harder.

And today's races didn't have that many people either. So, not sure what to think. I opened Nugi's stream for a few minutes and one of his teammates was complaining and died. Something's wrong with our interwebs.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 25 2013 23:03 GMT
#6823
The races are where I've had the most trouble with lag/desync as well. Perhaps they don't have the additional server capacity to run race realms yet? I'm not sure but since the races are so much worse than the actual standard gameplay, it would make sense that they don't quite have the infrastructure to support SC/HC and Race realms just yet. We will have to wait and see!
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
February 25 2013 23:12 GMT
#6824
Races are where you have the most trouble with desync probably because you are pushing hard through levels with skeleton gear. I get a healthy amount of desync when normally playing but it never bothers me. I feel that the desyncing is not too bad when you are playing safe and slow, but in a race due to your playstyle each desync is a life-threatening experience.

I know this isn't a perfect solution, but I bind "/oos" to my mouse5 key. As soon as I start feeling some desync funny business I hit it immediately. Saved me twice today in the race.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
February 25 2013 23:22 GMT
#6825
On February 26 2013 08:12 EchelonTee wrote:
Races are where you have the most trouble with desync probably because you are pushing hard through levels with skeleton gear. I get a healthy amount of desync when normally playing but it never bothers me. I feel that the desyncing is not too bad when you are playing safe and slow, but in a race due to your playstyle each desync is a life-threatening experience.

I know this isn't a perfect solution, but I bind "/oos" to my mouse5 key. As soon as I start feeling some desync funny business I hit it immediately. Saved me twice today in the race.


How are you binding it? A macro or something? Is that allowed by GGG?

I have only had one near death experience b/c of desync. I was in the crematorium and went into an area w/ a necro casting flammability and firemobs. I took lots of damage popped a charge on my pot and my quicksilver and ran back into the entrance room. Next thing I know I'm still taking flammability damage and popped everything on my pots + my last quicksilver just as the servers catchup and i find out i hadn't left the room with the necro and fire mobs apparently.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
February 25 2013 23:25 GMT
#6826
On February 26 2013 07:57 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 07:07 crms wrote:
I totally disagree with HC being a waste of time to play in current PoE.

I have had next to no major issues with lag and the brief moments I've experienced are easy to see coming and avoid. I'm not saying NOBODY dies to lag/desync issues but I think it's mostly a player scapegoat. The only time I ever noticed gameplay happering issues was during the race events.

All of my PoE friends and I play HC and of all our deaths in HC (I think between the 5 of us, 4-5 characters have died) only 1 was related to lag, and I wasn't even online at the time to confirm his story. Most players die because they fuck up.
I mostly agree with you, but what I've seen in today's race worries me. I know that Brutus likes to warp around, but even when you're out of sync, if you do the safe thing he can't hit you. The only way a ground slam is supposed to hit you is if you're already attacking him when he starts, or if you're running toward him. If you do the close-range circle strafing, he's as powerless as a fellshrine zombie. Plus, unless you're running straight at him or away from him, his hook cannot hit either.

I'm used to dealing with regular desyncs. You figure out what it probably looks like on the server, and you deal with it accordingly. But this was just something else. My ping was low, my health updated like it usually does, but everything was just.. so.. much.. harder.

And today's races didn't have that many people either. So, not sure what to think. I opened Nugi's stream for a few minutes and one of his teammates was complaining and died. Something's wrong with our interwebs.

nugi was also showing one of the 4 IPs DoSing him so he died in the pyramid as level 21 (It would probably have happened anyway with that low a level!). It was his firewall that caught it and sounded the alarm. My guess is that DDoSing of PoEs servers are intensifying during races since it cause the most grief to players. That and the natural problems of many players online at the same time.
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AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
February 25 2013 23:27 GMT
#6827
I know SC and HC are worlds apart, even though I play with a bit of a HC mentality (I try to die a little as possible) I'm not going to use that as a defense. But I am being 100% accurate when I say I only die to de-synch and that I have a lot of deaths. It's that bad.

Play HC all you want, but until de-synch and ridiculous 1-shots are gone from the game, I won't be joining you. And I actually -want- to play HC.
Teamliquid is one of the dumbest gaming communities on the internet.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
February 25 2013 23:28 GMT
#6828
Yea it would make sense whoever was ddossing them (blizzard) Would do it more during races.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
February 25 2013 23:50 GMT
#6829
On February 26 2013 08:22 Xinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 08:12 EchelonTee wrote:
Races are where you have the most trouble with desync probably because you are pushing hard through levels with skeleton gear. I get a healthy amount of desync when normally playing but it never bothers me. I feel that the desyncing is not too bad when you are playing safe and slow, but in a race due to your playstyle each desync is a life-threatening experience.

I know this isn't a perfect solution, but I bind "/oos" to my mouse5 key. As soon as I start feeling some desync funny business I hit it immediately. Saved me twice today in the race.


How are you binding it? A macro or something? Is that allowed by GGG?


http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm

I use this. I actually don't know if it is or isn't allowed... I'm going to email GGG and see.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
February 26 2013 00:17 GMT
#6830
On February 26 2013 08:27 AnotherRandom wrote:
I know SC and HC are worlds apart, even though I play with a bit of a HC mentality (I try to die a little as possible) I'm not going to use that as a defense. But I am being 100% accurate when I say I only die to de-synch and that I have a lot of deaths. It's that bad.

Play HC all you want, but until de-synch and ridiculous 1-shots are gone from the game, I won't be joining you. And I actually -want- to play HC.


If you want to play it so badly, then play it. This isn't your game, it's theirs, and they can design it however they want.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
February 26 2013 00:28 GMT
#6831
Damn I want to buy an Araku Tiki but no one has it °_° most ppl probably Sell it to the Vendor with the recipe since its so bad... any1 got it? Would even pay a Chaos orb for it, maybe more if its a good roll... Gotta be on HC though...
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
Cilien
Profile Joined August 2010
United States117 Posts
February 26 2013 00:35 GMT
#6832
yeah I hate to jump opn the bandwagon of blame desync but on hc died 2 times now, only made 2 char on PoE wasn't in closed beta so no idea if the build is at fault but 2.5k health in merci act 1 on both toons, both 50+ both in merciless one to brutus desync other to rare charger. Still rolling up another hc toon this game is too much fun.

I have been looking at builds, tried LA ranger, didn't like duel totem isn't interesting to me and EK isn't either as well as wand spec. Asking for TL help on a build looking for a lot of health nodes, ability to run % auras = no blood magic but open to blood magic gem. Looking for inner focus and body and soul, both nodes if possible also interested in eliminating choas resists so CI as well. Maybe Ice shot templar/marauder ? Will update if I come up with any way to pull build off
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
February 26 2013 00:41 GMT
#6833
You could try Kripp's FP marauder. Takes a kajillion lifenodes, uses auras on mana and GMP FP with bloodmagic support gem. It's really high damage and really safe, not sure how gear dependent it is.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 26 2013 00:42 GMT
#6834
Of course players died of their own mistakes (unless major issues) but it doesn't mean that desync doesn't play a part.

I'm freaking so lazy I lost a duelist in the shipyard because I facetanked rhoas and because some of them were desync'ed I couldn't start my regen on time and I was stunned to shame. But eh new character !
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
February 26 2013 01:09 GMT
#6835
On February 26 2013 09:41 EchelonTee wrote:
You could try Kripp's FP marauder. Takes a kajillion lifenodes, uses auras on mana and GMP FP with bloodmagic support gem. It's really high damage and really safe, not sure how gear dependent it is.

Marauder is really gear dependent because you can't level up your skills without an insane amulet. However you can do the same build with shadow for the cost of just a few skill points and it is very gear independent.
What does it matter how I loose it?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 26 2013 01:12 GMT
#6836
On February 26 2013 10:09 Percutio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:41 EchelonTee wrote:
You could try Kripp's FP marauder. Takes a kajillion lifenodes, uses auras on mana and GMP FP with bloodmagic support gem. It's really high damage and really safe, not sure how gear dependent it is.

Marauder is really gear dependent because you can't level up your skills without an insane amulet. However you can do the same build with shadow for the cost of just a few skill points and it is very gear independent.


You normally just play ground slam (or whatever) until you get to cruel and reach those nodes actually.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
February 26 2013 01:16 GMT
#6837
I'm curious about everyone that only dies because of desync with how much latency do they usually play, i play with 200 and i have only died once in hardcore (fuck you merc vaal and your lighting shock'd me into insta 2nd lighting ray) and desync is not really a problem for me
fearpLug
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany153 Posts
February 26 2013 01:18 GMT
#6838
so since i read all that "desync to stron"-whine, thats my take on the whole thing.
I allready lost 1 char 2 desync at lvl 76 in a map and yes i was map but i have played 3 builds 2 80+ in hc now and didnt die.
so desync or not, it will mostly only kill you if u were prepared in the first place.
Further more id really like to state that playing softcore is like the most boring thing ever... like no adrenaline etc 8/
So if u prepare for desync ur way less likely to be owned by it, but desync shouldnt actually be a thing u have to think about in the first place.
if u need any advice on poe, just PM and im sure i might hook u up with a good answer =)
HF
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 26 2013 01:20 GMT
#6839
Did you die in the dungeon map? I swear that one is desync city. Never have any problems with anything else, although I wasn't around to race this weekend so can't comment on that.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
February 26 2013 01:22 GMT
#6840
On February 26 2013 10:12 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 10:09 Percutio wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:41 EchelonTee wrote:
You could try Kripp's FP marauder. Takes a kajillion lifenodes, uses auras on mana and GMP FP with bloodmagic support gem. It's really high damage and really safe, not sure how gear dependent it is.

Marauder is really gear dependent because you can't level up your skills without an insane amulet. However you can do the same build with shadow for the cost of just a few skill points and it is very gear independent.


You normally just play ground slam (or whatever) until you get to cruel and reach those nodes actually.

Still, you lack a ton of dex that you really can't get without gear.
What does it matter how I loose it?
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