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Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
February 21 2013 18:20 GMT
#6541
For people looking to take part in races, this is a good guide on how and what to do:

danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 21 2013 18:52 GMT
#6542
On February 22 2013 02:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 02:00 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 01:46 crms wrote:
Same way people always get hacked.

they download 'cheats'
they click stupid links
they have the same pw for everything
they have keyloggers on their system
they join shady 'community' forums and use the same pw


There is nothing inherently broken in PoE that will make you get hacked. It's 100% user being careless, stupid or just unlucky.


The fact that they let you have so many login attempts in quick succession is broken, though. I got hacked through my own fault, but they aren't completely out of blame, either.


How do they get your email? Do they just pick random emails to brute force and hope they have a PoE account?


That's the same question I had. I figure since it's a junk email account, it ended up on some list somewhere that the hacker was privy to.

Actually, the very first thing I thought was, "Wait, is my email address available in game?"

So, just like always, if you have a decent-length password and it's not a word in the dictionary, it's not the same pass as on another site or game, and you don't share your info with anyone else, you're probably just fine. This is all assuming you don't have a virus, though :p
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
February 21 2013 18:54 GMT
#6543
On February 22 2013 03:52 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 02:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 22 2013 02:00 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 01:46 crms wrote:
Same way people always get hacked.

they download 'cheats'
they click stupid links
they have the same pw for everything
they have keyloggers on their system
they join shady 'community' forums and use the same pw


There is nothing inherently broken in PoE that will make you get hacked. It's 100% user being careless, stupid or just unlucky.


The fact that they let you have so many login attempts in quick succession is broken, though. I got hacked through my own fault, but they aren't completely out of blame, either.


How do they get your email? Do they just pick random emails to brute force and hope they have a PoE account?


That's the same question I had. I figure since it's a junk email account, it ended up on some list somewhere that the hacker was privy to.

Actually, the very first thing I thought was, "Wait, is my email address available in game?"

So, just like always, if you have a decent-length password and it's not a word in the dictionary, it's not the same pass as on another site or game, and you don't share your info with anyone else, you're probably just fine. This is all assuming you don't have a virus, though :p


Had a unique password with a lot of different letters and numbers (20+) and didn't share it with anyone, did some scans today, but found nothing
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 21 2013 18:58 GMT
#6544
On February 22 2013 02:48 Ryalnos wrote:
Phishing can get pretty clever, by the way. There's plenty of awful/blatant scams (you've won $1000). It's pretty obvious that someone isn't going to give away something for free, so those are fairly easy to spot.

There's a few out there that can catch you if you're not aware of them. This one time I received an email, apparently from Amazon.com, which appeared to be an order confirmation for some expensive necklace or something which I of course had no memory of buying. Let me just say that it was a pretty good imitation of the typical email Amazon sends. My first worry was that my account had been compromised, so that I might have missed that the email itself was intended to get the info for my account. Gmail had flagged the email in my spam box, so I checked the plausible-looking link and found that it did not lead where it claimed.

However, I idly wonder if I would have clicked through in confusion/worry if Gmail had not alerted me... I'd like to think I would have checked the url/verified that it was a secure connection straight to Amazon.com, but there's a nagging doubt.

It could be that this sort of phishing is common in D3/WoW/etc., but it was the first time I'd encountered it directly...


I'm not saying I'm a genius or above ever making a mistake, but I work in the IT industry and there's not even a chance I've fallen for a phishing scam, yet. I also do not have a virus on my computer. I don't browse the web except for sites I know and trust. They got me because my password was awful. How they got my username, I can't be sure. Just wanted to let people know they don't need to worry about it (I don't think) if they just take the typical precautions. Like I previously posted, they are working on an update that will lock your account upon a login attempt from a suspicious IP.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 21 2013 19:00 GMT
#6545
On February 22 2013 03:54 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 03:52 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 02:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 22 2013 02:00 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 01:46 crms wrote:
Same way people always get hacked.

they download 'cheats'
they click stupid links
they have the same pw for everything
they have keyloggers on their system
they join shady 'community' forums and use the same pw


There is nothing inherently broken in PoE that will make you get hacked. It's 100% user being careless, stupid or just unlucky.


The fact that they let you have so many login attempts in quick succession is broken, though. I got hacked through my own fault, but they aren't completely out of blame, either.


How do they get your email? Do they just pick random emails to brute force and hope they have a PoE account?


That's the same question I had. I figure since it's a junk email account, it ended up on some list somewhere that the hacker was privy to.

Actually, the very first thing I thought was, "Wait, is my email address available in game?"

So, just like always, if you have a decent-length password and it's not a word in the dictionary, it's not the same pass as on another site or game, and you don't share your info with anyone else, you're probably just fine. This is all assuming you don't have a virus, though :p


Had a unique password with a lot of different letters and numbers (20+) and didn't share it with anyone, did some scans today, but found nothing


Sorry man. If it's any consolation then, you make me feel better that I'm not alone, hah. Man, being stolen from feels awful. It's like I walked in to see my bed all disheveled (ok, let's be honest, that's normal), then realizing someone had been in there looking for something. My items were all displaced and all my pricey orbs were gone. t.t
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 21 2013 19:04 GMT
#6546
On February 22 2013 03:54 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 03:52 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 02:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 22 2013 02:00 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 01:46 crms wrote:
Same way people always get hacked.

they download 'cheats'
they click stupid links
they have the same pw for everything
they have keyloggers on their system
they join shady 'community' forums and use the same pw


There is nothing inherently broken in PoE that will make you get hacked. It's 100% user being careless, stupid or just unlucky.


The fact that they let you have so many login attempts in quick succession is broken, though. I got hacked through my own fault, but they aren't completely out of blame, either.


How do they get your email? Do they just pick random emails to brute force and hope they have a PoE account?


That's the same question I had. I figure since it's a junk email account, it ended up on some list somewhere that the hacker was privy to.

Actually, the very first thing I thought was, "Wait, is my email address available in game?"

So, just like always, if you have a decent-length password and it's not a word in the dictionary, it's not the same pass as on another site or game, and you don't share your info with anyone else, you're probably just fine. This is all assuming you don't have a virus, though :p


Had a unique password with a lot of different letters and numbers (20+) and didn't share it with anyone, did some scans today, but found nothing


There is no way they brute forced a 20 character password so either you're lying or they got it some other way that you want to discover.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 19:08:36
February 21 2013 19:06 GMT
#6547
an in game friend of mine just got hacked this morning.. he had about 15character password of info only him and his fiance or relatives would know but still got broken into

also what is brute force??
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
February 21 2013 19:07 GMT
#6548
Welp, there goes all my currency.

Surprised the guy didn't take gems of value and gear of value. Oh well, more stuff left for me I guess. At least I have stash space now, good thing I didn't buy stash pages.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
AllHailTheDead
Profile Joined July 2011
United States418 Posts
February 21 2013 19:08 GMT
#6549
hmmm ive heard a lot of people have been hacked lately


maybe the game was hacked and people stole passwords out of the database?
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 19:16:09
February 21 2013 19:13 GMT
#6550
On February 22 2013 04:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 03:54 Vallelol wrote:
On February 22 2013 03:52 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 02:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On February 22 2013 02:00 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 01:46 crms wrote:
Same way people always get hacked.

they download 'cheats'
they click stupid links
they have the same pw for everything
they have keyloggers on their system
they join shady 'community' forums and use the same pw


There is nothing inherently broken in PoE that will make you get hacked. It's 100% user being careless, stupid or just unlucky.


The fact that they let you have so many login attempts in quick succession is broken, though. I got hacked through my own fault, but they aren't completely out of blame, either.


How do they get your email? Do they just pick random emails to brute force and hope they have a PoE account?


That's the same question I had. I figure since it's a junk email account, it ended up on some list somewhere that the hacker was privy to.

Actually, the very first thing I thought was, "Wait, is my email address available in game?"

So, just like always, if you have a decent-length password and it's not a word in the dictionary, it's not the same pass as on another site or game, and you don't share your info with anyone else, you're probably just fine. This is all assuming you don't have a virus, though :p


Had a unique password with a lot of different letters and numbers (20+) and didn't share it with anyone, did some scans today, but found nothing


There is no way they brute forced a 20 character password so either you're lying or they got it some other way that you want to discover.


No reason for me to lie about it, I want to discover the way they did it myself :/ I don't feel like logging in on any page, because I don't know how/when/where they got my data


Sorry man. If it's any consolation then, you make me feel better that I'm not alone, hah. Man, being stolen from feels awful. It's like I walked in to see my bed all disheveled (ok, let's be honest, that's normal), then realizing someone had been in there looking for something. My items were all displaced and all my pricey orbs were gone. t.t


thanks man, I don't really care about the currency though, the feeling of not knowing how they did it is way worse :O
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 21 2013 19:13 GMT
#6551
On February 22 2013 04:06 Obstikal wrote:
an in game friend of mine just got hacked this morning.. he had about 15character password of info only him and his fiance or relatives would know but still got broken into

also what is brute force??


When you guess the password until you get it right.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 21 2013 19:16 GMT
#6552
On February 22 2013 04:08 AllHailTheDead wrote:
hmmm ive heard a lot of people have been hacked lately


maybe the game was hacked and people stole passwords out of the database?


Even if they managed that, the database shouldn't do them any good as they should all be encrypted and worthless without the key to decode them.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 19:26:30
February 21 2013 19:24 GMT
#6553
On February 22 2013 04:16 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 04:08 AllHailTheDead wrote:
hmmm ive heard a lot of people have been hacked lately


maybe the game was hacked and people stole passwords out of the database?


Even if they managed that, the database shouldn't do them any good as they should all be encrypted and worthless without the key to decode them.

Under the assumption that it is encrypted. Not saying anything or blaming anybody.

It's not like poor security measures are uncommon, actually see stupid things in the news sometimes where companies/organizations store shit as plain text >.<'
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 21 2013 19:27 GMT
#6554
On February 22 2013 04:24 Fawkes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 04:16 danl9rm wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:08 AllHailTheDead wrote:
hmmm ive heard a lot of people have been hacked lately


maybe the game was hacked and people stole passwords out of the database?


Even if they managed that, the database shouldn't do them any good as they should all be encrypted and worthless without the key to decode them.

Under the assumption that it is encrypted. Not saying anything or blaming anybody.


After recent events if they are storing passwords as plain text I'm just gonna facepalm ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
February 21 2013 20:44 GMT
#6555
On February 21 2013 16:38 Archers_bane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 15:20 travis wrote:
does eye of chayula kill you if you use CI ?


No it doesnt!


I think I found a bug, the perandus blazon belt (+20% flask duration) doesn't work on quicksilvers/granites. Not sure if its working as intended, but I dont see why not?

Also, since I got the minus ES cooldown nodes which gave me +EV% rating, I think I am going to hybrid it up as my frost witch and get all EV/ES gear. Is it every 100 EV = 1% chance to dodge?

Evade % isn't constant throughout the game. The amount of evasion you'll need to achieve, say, a 50% evade rate on the character stat page will increase as the level of mobs increases. So you can't conclusively say that 100 EV = 1% chance to dodge or anything like that.

Also bear in mind that some mobs have better accuracy than others, so the number shown on the stat page can be quite misleading. For example, you might have 50% evade against trash mobs, but against bosses, you might have something like 35%.
Liquipedia
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 21:37:07
February 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#6556
The fix to life on hit really took the wind of out my sails on my lv66 HC LA Ranger. No more free max health with 1 LA. Sometimes I actually start to drop in HP. I'm going to have to start being careful even in dumb places like felshrine grind. feelsbadman.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
February 21 2013 21:14 GMT
#6557
What did they fix with LoH? Granted I use LoH with Split and not LA, what happened?
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 21 2013 21:15 GMT
#6558
On February 22 2013 06:14 Fawkes wrote:
What did they fix with LoH? Granted I use LoH with Split and not LA, what happened?


There was a bug that made it leech twice.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
February 21 2013 21:19 GMT
#6559
You basically got awarded two times the health per hit (eg. Getting 12 hp when you're supposed to get 6). So now you're actually healing for the intended amount.
Liquipedia
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
February 21 2013 21:23 GMT
#6560
On February 22 2013 05:44 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 16:38 Archers_bane wrote:
On February 21 2013 15:20 travis wrote:
does eye of chayula kill you if you use CI ?


No it doesnt!


I think I found a bug, the perandus blazon belt (+20% flask duration) doesn't work on quicksilvers/granites. Not sure if its working as intended, but I dont see why not?

Also, since I got the minus ES cooldown nodes which gave me +EV% rating, I think I am going to hybrid it up as my frost witch and get all EV/ES gear. Is it every 100 EV = 1% chance to dodge?

Evade % isn't constant throughout the game. The amount of evasion you'll need to achieve, say, a 50% evade rate on the character stat page will increase as the level of mobs increases. So you can't conclusively say that 100 EV = 1% chance to dodge or anything like that.

Also bear in mind that some mobs have better accuracy than others, so the number shown on the stat page can be quite misleading. For example, you might have 50% evade against trash mobs, but against bosses, you might have something like 35%.



Is evasion really bad in late game then since the mobs have higher chance to hit? I haven't spent much currency on hybrid Ev/Es gear yet, so I can still take some advice if I should just focus on ES rather than hybrid
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