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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
December 08 2018 20:02 GMT
#29661
Not to derail too much, but I don't think using zizaran as an example of a mechanic being too easy to die to is helping your cause. Zizarans whole schtick is that he's bad and dies to stupid things a lot, I would not use him dying as proof of something being hard.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10313 Posts
December 08 2018 20:11 GMT
#29662
I'm enjoying the league so far, just to grant a sorta-newbie perspective. Definitely liked the dynamic change of pace with Delve league more, though. I'm glad it's still in the game, but it would have been nice to start mining early on. I understand why they didn't do it, but still.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 08 2018 20:20 GMT
#29663
On December 09 2018 05:02 hunts wrote:
Not to derail too much, but I don't think using zizaran as an example of a mechanic being too easy to die to is helping your cause. Zizarans whole schtick is that he's bad and dies to stupid things a lot, I would not use him dying as proof of something being hard.

All jokes and memes aside, Zizaran has still hit 100 many times on hc and got there first many times to boot, he's generally top tier at racing etc. Zizaran playing 500 hours a month and having a few stupid deaths to reflect doesn't make him bad.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
December 08 2018 22:04 GMT
#29664
On December 09 2018 05:20 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2018 05:02 hunts wrote:
Not to derail too much, but I don't think using zizaran as an example of a mechanic being too easy to die to is helping your cause. Zizarans whole schtick is that he's bad and dies to stupid things a lot, I would not use him dying as proof of something being hard.

All jokes and memes aside, Zizaran has still hit 100 many times on hc and got there first many times to boot, he's generally top tier at racing etc. Zizaran playing 500 hours a month and having a few stupid deaths to reflect doesn't make him bad.


Yeah he's not actually bad bad, but he does die a lot to stupid things by not paying attention and then acting surprised for views. Also from what I remember I wouldn't put too much stock into his race finishes because of him getting tons of free stuff as well as trials, masters, etc... from his stream viewers during those races.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 08 2018 23:12 GMT
#29665
Lmao what is even happening in this thread. Ziz is a fine player. Dying because you're constantly looking at stream chat or something is not the same as dying on purpose to get youtube clicks or some shit. What he dies to (or how often) should have little bearing on the general enjoyment of the league/populace. This is like the people that kept saying Aul was too rare just because Mathil hadn't found one yet, even though they quit playing the league weeks/months ago.

Betrayal is going to be rippy. Condolences to you HC guys. But I think the league is sick so far.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-08 23:45:27
December 08 2018 23:45 GMT
#29666
Yea my two deaths have been to new betrayal mechanics. One of them I'm still super confused about. I was in one of the Syndicate hideouts and just got randomly one shot by something, and I wasn't even fighting a boss. There's just so much shit going on in those areas.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 01:14:59
December 09 2018 01:14 GMT
#29667
5 acts in and having a blast so far, I like the league mechanics though I don't really know what I'm doing haha. The new crafting is super nice too.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 05:20:15
December 09 2018 05:20 GMT
#29668
So uuuuhhhhhhhh we were thinking the Devouring Diadem spell was going to be a disadvantage since the helm is so good, but apparently it consumes corpses for a ton of recovery.

Looks like EB+MoM's back on the menu.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 09 2018 08:16 GMT
#29669
What the fuck. The helmet is disgusting by iself, it has more mana reservation than heretics veil
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
December 09 2018 08:24 GMT
#29670
Yeah that helm is Skyforth-level "fuck it, let's just throw every stat people want on an item."
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 08:32:38
December 09 2018 08:32 GMT
#29671
On December 09 2018 17:24 ASoo wrote:
Yeah that helm is Skyforth-level "fuck it, let's just throw every stat people want on an item."

It's probably going to be as rare as Atziri's Reflection... absolutely bonkers item.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 09 2018 08:40 GMT
#29672
On December 09 2018 17:32 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2018 17:24 ASoo wrote:
Yeah that helm is Skyforth-level "fuck it, let's just throw every stat people want on an item."

It's probably going to be as rare as Atziri's Reflection... absolutely bonkers item.


I just need it to kill Cameria, thanks.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 08:43:46
December 09 2018 08:43 GMT
#29673
On December 09 2018 17:32 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2018 17:24 ASoo wrote:
Yeah that helm is Skyforth-level "fuck it, let's just throw every stat people want on an item."

It's probably going to be as rare as Atziri's Reflection... absolutely bonkers item.

There's like 10 for sale already at ~30c.

http://poe.trade/search/aresoyarinimos
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 09:58:02
December 09 2018 08:51 GMT
#29674
-_-;; why didn't I start with EB/MOM. :D That helmet basically means you can go MoM without ever needing to worry about mana/ES, especially with Occultist.

Strings of Servitude with up to 120% increased crit chance during flask effects is probably amazing for leveling with CoC. Just found one.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 13:36:52
December 09 2018 13:36 GMT
#29675
On December 09 2018 08:12 Duka08 wrote:
Lmao what is even happening in this thread. Ziz is a fine player. Dying because you're constantly looking at stream chat or something is not the same as dying on purpose to get youtube clicks or some shit. What he dies to (or how often) should have little bearing on the general enjoyment of the league/populace. This is like the people that kept saying Aul was too rare just because Mathil hadn't found one yet, even though they quit playing the league weeks/months ago.

Betrayal is going to be rippy. Condolences to you HC guys. But I think the league is sick so far.


ziz is actually more than a fine player, he's pretty much a god lol
try playing 18 hours a day while pushing the #1 spot and not RIPing to stuff that looks dumb sometimes
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 09 2018 13:45 GMT
#29676
I'm so sad about this league and lack of enjoyment that I get out of it Even took holidays for 1 month from 20th of december and now its rather play to not be bored to death but still not enjoying it. >_>; Makes me so angry and frustrated.


Also about the Zizaran discussion: Zizaran is really good and you simply sometimes die to stupid stuff in PoE; we all had that happen to us. Of course he streams every second he plays and he does play a ton so obviously it will be more visible when he dies to something stupid. Doesn't remotely make him bad.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 15:28:47
December 09 2018 15:27 GMT
#29677
On December 09 2018 17:51 HolydaKing wrote:
-_-;; why didn't I start with EB/MOM. :D That helmet basically means you can go MoM without ever needing to worry about mana/ES, especially with Occultist.

Strings of Servitude with up to 120% increased crit chance during flask effects is probably amazing for leveling with CoC. Just found one.

So how would one play EB/MoM character? Do you use up all mana for auras and such and don't put anything into more mana modifiers passives and put extra points into ES nodes?
or does one keep both ES and mana available to soak damage?
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8657 Posts
December 09 2018 15:37 GMT
#29678
On December 09 2018 22:45 NarutO wrote:
I'm so sad about this league and lack of enjoyment that I get out of it Even took holidays for 1 month from 20th of december and now its rather play to not be bored to death but still not enjoying it. >_>; Makes me so angry and frustrated.


Also about the Zizaran discussion: Zizaran is really good and you simply sometimes die to stupid stuff in PoE; we all had that happen to us. Of course he streams every second he plays and he does play a ton so obviously it will be more visible when he dies to something stupid. Doesn't remotely make him bad.


Oh my. How about using your 4 weeks to do something else maybe? Travel somewhere? Using your vacation time to sit at home and do something you don't enjoy seems like a really bad idea.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-09 15:56:07
December 09 2018 15:54 GMT
#29679
On December 10 2018 00:27 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2018 17:51 HolydaKing wrote:
-_-;; why didn't I start with EB/MOM. :D That helmet basically means you can go MoM without ever needing to worry about mana/ES, especially with Occultist.

Strings of Servitude with up to 120% increased crit chance during flask effects is probably amazing for leveling with CoC. Just found one.

So how would one play EB/MoM character? Do you use up all mana for auras and such and don't put anything into more mana modifiers passives and put extra points into ES nodes?
or does one keep both ES and mana available to soak damage?
i started with eb/mom occultist cold dots. the skills/dots feel clunky to use(vortex is melee and cold snap/arctic breath have long casts) but eb/mom looks fine; way better than MoM on mana imo.

i'll go vile bastion + frigid waste in the end but with only wicked ward, the MoM feels good/tankish.
mana pool on occultist is used for curses if you go for + malediction, else there's not much you can use it for(dots don't have own auras) unless one goes some attack meme build.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22260 Posts
December 09 2018 15:56 GMT
#29680
The point of MoM is to increase your effective HP by 30%. So it doesn't make sense to reserve all your mana when going that direction.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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