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On June 01 2012 23:06 Pandemona wrote:Lol you seem a bit bitter... Chelsea have funded Porto for the past 10 years, your best assests come to Chelsea, from your managers to your players. We buy everything off you at a rather inflated price. Lets lisit them AVB - Rookie 1 year manager, £15million to just make him leave your club. WAY INFLATED Bosingwa - Rather weak defensively, good going forward. £16.2 million way over priced Ferreria - Slow defender, good at the back but weak due to pace going forward, was nothing special. £13.2million, way over priced. Carvalho - Great defender, pacey and good in the air. Bit of a short temper (but thats a portugese thing right?  ) but again not worth £19.85 million. He is probably worth the most out of what we have bought from you in the years but no where above £12-14million Total £ 64.25 Million Thats without the money we paid for Mourinho which i can't find information on. Now your going to get £37million on top and your not happy, which takes it up to £101.25million!! Thats like a 2 whole new squads with the transfer policy at your club. I don't think you should argue much and want more money for a footballer who has yet to prove himself as a HUGE player. He has play Japaenses football and Portugese thats it, and just broke into the Brazil national squad.
Carvalho wasn't worth more than 12 million? are you high?
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Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
12-14million, no not when we bought him i don't think he was. We had Gallas who had pace then in the team aswell, and only lacked a LB.
He was worth in his prime (whilst at chelsea 2 seasons in) about 20million. Not when we bought him he was not, no. Porto extract money out of us, when we could just buy whatever player we felt like at the signing of a cheque.
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We sold carvalho for like 12(?) million when he was 31, thats how good he is/was. To Real Madrid no less.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
€7.9 (£6.7) million actually. But he had 1yaer left with us hense we cashed in on what we could get. But i still don;'t think he is £20millions worth when we bought him. More like 12-14million.
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On June 01 2012 23:57 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 23:51 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:47 greggy wrote:On June 01 2012 23:43 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:40 greggy wrote:On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.
But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea. You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass. There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay? It a tabloid news so it must be right i guess LOL IM A RANDOM BIASED POSTER ON A SC2 FORUM SO I MUST BE RIGHT LOL Im a random idiot posting news from a paper that doesnt even know the players release cause...and i post in caps coz im cool herp derp Wtf his release clause is 60 MILLION EUROS..is it not? That is 48 MILLION ENGLISH POUNDS. Chelsea offered 11million short of his release clause....Now do you understand
His release cause is 100M (ONE HUNDRED MILLION EUROS) is that clear enough or do i need to make a drawing?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
On June 02 2012 00:41 daSilvaz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 23:57 Pandemona wrote:On June 01 2012 23:51 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:47 greggy wrote:On June 01 2012 23:43 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:40 greggy wrote:On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.
But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea. You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass. There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay? It a tabloid news so it must be right i guess LOL IM A RANDOM BIASED POSTER ON A SC2 FORUM SO I MUST BE RIGHT LOL Im a random idiot posting news from a paper that doesnt even know the players release cause...and i post in caps coz im cool herp derp Wtf his release clause is 60 MILLION EUROS..is it not? That is 48 MILLION ENGLISH POUNDS. Chelsea offered 11million short of his release clause....Now do you understand His release cause is 100M (ONE HUNDRED MILLION EUROS) is that clear enough or do i need to make a drawing?
No it is not, read all the stories, his release clause is at max 60million EUROs. Every article says it is that not 100million.
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On June 02 2012 00:39 Pandemona wrote:
€7.9 (£6.7) million actually. But he had 1yaer left with us hense we cashed in on what we could get. But i still don;'t think he is £20millions worth when we bought him. More like 12-14million.
ah i thought it was more like 5 mil pounds. But still, you are probably alone on this.
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On June 02 2012 00:44 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 00:41 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:57 Pandemona wrote:On June 01 2012 23:51 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:47 greggy wrote:On June 01 2012 23:43 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:40 greggy wrote:On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.
But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea. You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass. There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay? It a tabloid news so it must be right i guess LOL IM A RANDOM BIASED POSTER ON A SC2 FORUM SO I MUST BE RIGHT LOL Im a random idiot posting news from a paper that doesnt even know the players release cause...and i post in caps coz im cool herp derp Wtf his release clause is 60 MILLION EUROS..is it not? That is 48 MILLION ENGLISH POUNDS. Chelsea offered 11million short of his release clause....Now do you understand His release cause is 100M (ONE HUNDRED MILLION EUROS) is that clear enough or do i need to make a drawing? No it is not, read all the stories, his release clause is at max 60million EUROs. Every article says it is that not 100million.
Okay mate, you and the guardian know better than the fucking CMVM. Sorry i ever doubted you oby-wan
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when hulk re-signed for fcp is buyout fee was 100M euros. dont know if it changed, but it was (prolly still is) in fact 100M.
edit: re-signed, not signed
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
On June 02 2012 01:02 daSilvaz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 00:44 Pandemona wrote:On June 02 2012 00:41 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:57 Pandemona wrote:On June 01 2012 23:51 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:47 greggy wrote:On June 01 2012 23:43 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:40 greggy wrote:On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.
But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea. You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass. There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay? It a tabloid news so it must be right i guess LOL IM A RANDOM BIASED POSTER ON A SC2 FORUM SO I MUST BE RIGHT LOL Im a random idiot posting news from a paper that doesnt even know the players release cause...and i post in caps coz im cool herp derp Wtf his release clause is 60 MILLION EUROS..is it not? That is 48 MILLION ENGLISH POUNDS. Chelsea offered 11million short of his release clause....Now do you understand His release cause is 100M (ONE HUNDRED MILLION EUROS) is that clear enough or do i need to make a drawing? No it is not, read all the stories, his release clause is at max 60million EUROs. Every article says it is that not 100million. Okay mate, you and the guardian know better than the fucking CMVM. Sorry i ever doubted you oby-wan
No worrys, about time you came to your senses padawan
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he speaks the truth i think, made some quick research and seems it still is 100M.
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On June 02 2012 01:10 smekz wrote:
he speaks the truth i think, made some quick research and seems it still is 100M.
OFC it still is 100M, just let them take the bike....
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cmvm link about hulk here
seems he resigned until 2016 after that and the fee was kept here
what is cmvm? here
well u cant read portuguese but you can read the values.
he has contract until 2016 and the fee is 100M euros. if someone paid the fee it would be more expensive than when ronaldo left manchester, so crazy
note that im not a porto fan, i dont even like porto that much xD
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On June 02 2012 00:31 Stimp wrote:
We sold carvalho for like 12(?) million when he was 31, thats how good he is/was. To Real Madrid no less.
More like to Mourinho, no one else wouldve paid 12 million for him at that age.
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On June 02 2012 01:19 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 00:31 Stimp wrote:
We sold carvalho for like 12(?) million when he was 31, thats how good he is/was. To Real Madrid no less. More like to Mourinho, no one else wouldve paid 12 million for him at that age.
Cause he is one of the most underrated defenders of all time.
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City vs Chelsea next season is gonna be good.
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Torres might even score once or twice before season is almost over, going to be intense.
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On June 02 2012 01:36 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2012 01:19 Rebs wrote:On June 02 2012 00:31 Stimp wrote:
We sold carvalho for like 12(?) million when he was 31, thats how good he is/was. To Real Madrid no less. More like to Mourinho, no one else wouldve paid 12 million for him at that age. Cause he is one of the most underrated defenders of all time.
Hes under rated because hes not one of those natural talents, and those get alot more fanfare. Hes incredibly smart and is probably the best at pullling the opponents pants of twice over without an official noticing, that and the general defense awareness and the odd cheese that Mou likes to employ. I dont like him as a player and neither do other people for that but its something that you can appreciate for sure. Fortunately for him hes been smart in how hes gone about playing in systems. Besides he hardly started at RM the second half of this season hes past it. No one can justify 12 million for a season and a half of mostly losing to Barca.
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Ledley King is set to announce his retirement, after being at Tottenham for 13 years. He no longer has any cartilage in his knee but he's been putting off seeing his surgeon to finish the season. It's madness that he's even been playing at all for the last 4 years. His doctor described him as 'superhuman' and said he's 'defied science'.
'Tottenham has been the only club for me.'
True Yiddo, sad news.
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On June 01 2012 22:54 daSilvaz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 22:46 bObaZ wrote:On June 01 2012 22:42 daSilvaz wrote:On June 01 2012 22:37 Pandemona wrote:
Lol banter from le portugals xD
47million Euros is plenty for a player who is being chased by 1 club in Europe (who can get near his 60million Euros buyout) plus Hulk said he wants to leave Porto now, its not a good thing to keep a player at a club when he doesn't want to be there, specially when you can cash in on him for nearly 50million Euros! You are wrong twice, 1st Porto did have offers from other clubs and 2nd Hulk never said he wanted to leave, dont read fake twitter accounts please . And 47mil for Hulk after buying hazzard for 40mil 2days(?) ago?..haha @ boobaz Ofc you dont want foreigners to know what a disgrace your club is, i understand... LOL Ok. Take the Bike If people who have some interest in football wanted to investigate what REALLY happened in the portuguese football for the last 25 Years, they would be surprised SURE, Hulk will go to Chelsea for 80M€+ SURE Hulk is worth twice the value of Hazard... And pliz don't mix fanatic supporters with the name of the club... You got me wrong, im not fanatic in any way shape or form, im not even afiliated with porto. What i cant stand is you ppl always talking the same bullshit over and over again hoping someday will stick. i could talk also how you club paid a steward to pick a fight with hulk and some other players to ban them for 4 months and much much more...
Pathetic, you want a club to be burned to the ground but you're not fanatic? What's a fanatic to you then?
Take your hate somewhere else, this isn't the place for this discussion.
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