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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 14:19:34
June 01 2012 14:13 GMT
#9441
Don't get me wrong. Hulk is a great signing... He has constantly been the best player in the portuguese championship for the last 3 to 4 years... And during that time there were players like Coentrão, Di Maria, Falcao, Ramires, João Moutinho, Fernando who altough they were important for their teams they didn't perform at the level of Hulk.

So he will be a great adding the the Chelsea team...

And the portuguese championship isn't that weak... Benfica Porto and Sporting have performed well in europe since forever... And Benfica and Porto are major players in the transfer window, especially as the selling end
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18669 Posts
June 01 2012 14:20 GMT
#9442
Why is carvalho always so underrated when someone talks about him?

Imo one of the best defenders of this century.
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 14:22:13
June 01 2012 14:21 GMT
#9443
On June 01 2012 23:06 Pandemona wrote:
Lol you seem a bit bitter...
Chelsea have funded Porto for the past 10 years, your best assests come to Chelsea, from your managers to your players. We buy everything off you at a rather inflated price.
Lets lisit them

AVB - Rookie 1 year manager, £15million to just make him leave your club. WAY INFLATED
Bosingwa - Rather weak defensively, good going forward. £16.2 million way over priced
Ferreria - Slow defender, good at the back but weak due to pace going forward, was nothing special. £13.2million, way over priced.
Carvalho - Great defender, pacey and good in the air. Bit of a short temper (but thats a portugese thing right? ) but again not worth £19.85 million. He is probably worth the most out of what we have bought from you in the years but no where above £12-14million

Total £ 64.25 Million Thats without the money we paid for Mourinho which i can't find information on. Now your going to get £37million on top and your not happy, which takes it up to £101.25million!! Thats like a 2 whole new squads with the transfer policy at your club. I don't think you should argue much and want more money for a footballer who has yet to prove himself as a HUGE player. He has play Japaenses football and Portugese thats it, and just broke into the Brazil national squad.



actually you're the one who seems a bit bitter.
porto is one of the best clubs in the world trading players (and the 2 coaches).
chelsea is the other way around.
dont expect to get players at a great price from porto. look at the prices you metioned and add falcao or quaresma - porto makes excelent deals.
i just think chelsea wont buy hulk if the price goes much further than 50M€. but let's see abramovich may go on a ramapage again now that he won CL
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 01 2012 14:22 GMT
#9444
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.

But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 01 2012 14:24 GMT
#9445
On June 01 2012 23:20 sharkie wrote:
Why is carvalho always so underrated when someone talks about him?

Imo one of the best defenders of this century.

Nah man, sideshow bob is the best, he talks funny to the cameras as has a nice hair and all hehe.
Its quite funny to see chelsea fans downrate a player who made part of the best central defenders pair in chelsea history.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 01 2012 14:27 GMT
#9446
On June 01 2012 23:24 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:20 sharkie wrote:
Why is carvalho always so underrated when someone talks about him?

Imo one of the best defenders of this century.

Nah man, sideshow bob is the best, he talks funny to the cameras as has a nice hair and all hehe.
Its quite funny to see chelsea fans downrate a player who made part of the best central defenders pair in chelsea history.


I didn't down rate him, i said when we bought him he was not worth £20million. That was crazy price. He was great player fast and good in the air. But 20million? No he is not worth that.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
June 01 2012 14:31 GMT
#9447
lol daSilvaz. I know that Ricardo Carvalho is better than David Luiz, but why did u have to make fun of a player like David Luiz so you can show that Ricardo Carvalho is better?
When you say it like that it seems like you have no arguments...
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 01 2012 14:32 GMT
#9448
On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.

But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea.

You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro
In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it
And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass.
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 01 2012 14:33 GMT
#9449
On June 01 2012 23:31 bObaZ wrote:
lol daSilvaz. I know that Ricardo Carvalho is better than David Luiz, but why did u have to make fun of a player like David Luiz so you can show that Ricardo Carvalho is better?
When you say it like that it seems like you have no arguments...

Y u so mad bro, does he not look like sideshow bob? does he not talk funny english? i never said he was bad.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 14:41:05
June 01 2012 14:40 GMT
#9450
On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.

But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea.

You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro
In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it
And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass.


There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay?
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 01 2012 14:43 GMT
#9451
On June 01 2012 23:40 greggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.

But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea.

You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro
In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it
And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass.


There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay?

It a tabloid news so it must be right i guess LOL
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 01 2012 14:46 GMT
#9452
On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.

But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea.

You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro
In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it
And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass.


No i live on the Chelsea forum no one drools over that deal its a shit deal. Torres is our striker, and Falcao is not, i don't want to spend 50million on him, plus you have not even got all the money for Falcao from Atletico Madrid!

Anyway, 60Million Euros is £48million, we have offered £37million is 11million short off his release cause, which both clubs know they will not get for him. Chelsea won't offer more than £40million imo, if you haven't noticed there is a FFP ruling coming into effect to and we have to meet regulations in that, and with £32million already spent on Hazard we wont be going to big offers.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
June 01 2012 14:47 GMT
#9453
On June 01 2012 23:43 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:40 greggy wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.

But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea.

You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro
In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it
And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass.


There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay?

It a tabloid news so it must be right i guess LOL

IM A RANDOM BIASED POSTER ON A SC2 FORUM SO I MUST BE RIGHT LOL
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
June 01 2012 14:49 GMT
#9454
Wait. So what happened at the basketball game? Fuck all this bantering, i'm more interested in that basketball game. Can someone please explain it to me?
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
June 01 2012 14:51 GMT
#9455
On June 01 2012 23:47 greggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:43 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:40 greggy wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.

But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea.

You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro
In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it
And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass.


There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay?

It a tabloid news so it must be right i guess LOL

IM A RANDOM BIASED POSTER ON A SC2 FORUM SO I MUST BE RIGHT LOL

Im a random idiot posting news from a paper that doesnt even know the players release cause...and i post in caps coz im cool herp derp
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
June 01 2012 14:57 GMT
#9456
On June 01 2012 23:49 Kotreb wrote:
Wait. So what happened at the basketball game? Fuck all this bantering, i'm more interested in that basketball game. Can someone please explain it to me?

this: + Show Spoiler +

thats benfica coach doing those gestures to porto crowd in the end of the finals
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 01 2012 14:57 GMT
#9457
On June 01 2012 23:51 daSilvaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:47 greggy wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:43 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:40 greggy wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:32 daSilvaz wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:22 Pandemona wrote:
No the "press" said we want to trade him +15million for Falcao when that never happend. Roman personally told Torres who was miss translated as to say he was unhappy with Chelsea when he wasn't. Torres was told he is the number 1 striker at Chelsea next year and the signings we are making are for him to get the service he needs.

But back to your lackluster point. No im not saying you should spread your legs like a cheap whore, im saying you have robbed us blind over every transfer and we will not be held ransom for another. Hulk £37million is more than enough for him, there is no reason he should be anymore. Your getting the biggest value bids from Chelsea, no one else is coming near that evaluation we have put on him. You keep him, you cause trouble in your squad as he will be unhappy next season. The premiership is not a mecca and never will be and i never said it was, its a place where money talks though hense the bigger names come here as of late.
Hazard was being chased by 3 premier league clubs, you could argue the 3 richest premier league clubs, all with bids of £32million (Lille's evaluation or contract caluse) met and the player decided who he wanted to play for and choose Chelsea, much like Hulk's agent has said he was with Chelsea.

You talk without knowledge, its the 60M buyout, its his fake agent (wich according to the guardian is in london LOL), its his fake twitter account where he says he wants to leave, its chelsea being the only club with offers, chill out bro
In the end all i know is he wont go for 37mil, make of that what you want, its the last ill talk bout it
And the falcao torres thing, hop on the chelsea forum and you will see many many ppl droolling over that alleged deal, i didnt pull that out of my ass.


There's a fucking article in the guardian (linked twice on last two pages, once by yours truly) saying deal has been agreed subject to medical and personal terms. £37.9m. Done and dusted, because why the fuck would he want to stay?

It a tabloid news so it must be right i guess LOL

IM A RANDOM BIASED POSTER ON A SC2 FORUM SO I MUST BE RIGHT LOL

Im a random idiot posting news from a paper that doesnt even know the players release cause...and i post in caps coz im cool herp derp


Wtf his release clause is 60 MILLION EUROS..is it not? That is 48 MILLION ENGLISH POUNDS. Chelsea offered 11million short of his release clause....Now do you understand
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
June 01 2012 15:00 GMT
#9458
On June 01 2012 23:10 mememolly wrote:
why didnt they just give Drogba 2 more years, surely cheaper than signing Hulk who hasn't proven himself at EPL level


Best imo, but I think Drogba really wants to go. I credit most of their successes to him over Terry, really. Guy's been underrated since forever.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 15:06:05
June 01 2012 15:04 GMT
#9459
On June 01 2012 23:57 smekz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:49 Kotreb wrote:
Wait. So what happened at the basketball game? Fuck all this bantering, i'm more interested in that basketball game. Can someone please explain it to me?

this: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYbkp9Scwmo&feature=related

thats benfica coach doing those gestures to porto crowd in the end of the finals


Thank you. So Benfica won the match but their coach provoked the fans after the game and sometimes during the game, and that's what provoked the fans or? That's what i was able to figure out from this clip. Can you please fill me in more?

edit: bObaz explained it to me in PM.
thanks nonetheless
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 15:14:04
June 01 2012 15:12 GMT
#9460
On June 02 2012 00:04 Kotreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 23:57 smekz wrote:
On June 01 2012 23:49 Kotreb wrote:
Wait. So what happened at the basketball game? Fuck all this bantering, i'm more interested in that basketball game. Can someone please explain it to me?

this: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYbkp9Scwmo&feature=related

thats benfica coach doing those gestures to porto crowd in the end of the finals


Thank you. So Benfica won the match but their coach provoked the fans after the game and sometimes during the game, and that's what provoked the fans or? That's what i was able to figure out from this clip. Can you please fill me in more?

edit: bObaz explained it to me in PM.
thanks nonetheless


he also made some gesture against one of porto coaches, seemed like a cut throat or something, not sure.
that guy is one of the faces of basketball in portugal, i don't know how he let the crowd get into his head and mess up like that. a real shame tbh ;;

edit: was writing like a retard sry
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