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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 17 2012 01:57 GMT
#8861
Man I can't say how upset I am that Hodgson has not picked Micah Richards or Kyle Walker for the England squad. It's an embarrassment. Glen Johnson is a great attacking force but walker rapes him for pace and richards for strength. We are blessed in England with amazing diversity at right back and he has only picked one of the 3 amazing choices...he should have taken at least one of the others. He says he cut back on defenders so he could have more attackers...he's trying to say Phil Jones would be able to 'phil' in for glen if he got injured...but phil jones is a slow ass shitty young CB who couldn't beat micah richards and kyle walker for pace if their feet were tied together. Why not just cut out either james milner or gareth barry. We'd still have 2 left wingers (young + downing), 4 midfielders (lampard gerrard parker milner/barry) and 2 right wingers (ox and theo). Also I'm pretty surprised Welbeck got the nod above Sturridge but maybe it was down to attitude and ability to play selflessly. Sturridge got more goals with less game time and imo is a more exciting and dynamic player. Welbeck's arms are too long and he drags them around weirdly. ALthough then again so does papiss cisse, his arms fly around like this monkey:



Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
May 17 2012 05:54 GMT
#8862
On May 17 2012 05:34 aqui wrote:
He is brilliant in Dortmund but im not sure how he will perform in Manchester. His strength is that he is lightning quick in his head which fits perfect to Dortmunds very fast way to play. His strength show if he has a team that runs a lot, changes pace rapidly etc. Physically he is rather weak and allthough he has great control he would be easy to neutralize on his own. I'm pretty sure he won't fail hard, he has very nimble feet a great touch and his passes can be spectacular, but im not sure whether he can really shine in Manchester, really depends on their system. I think it is really a petty that he is leaving Dortmund as it basically the perfect place for him.

He needs space and in Dortmund 10 men constantly run to create it. This is a random youtube skill video, but the second half of it demonstrates exactly that. I dont think in the last 4 minutes there is one scene where not half oh his team is sprinting somewhere. He is great on the counter or with his teammates opening spaces but whether he will fit united, judge yourself.



Good summary.

I think United would like to play that way. If you watched how the team played at the beginning of the season, when Cleverley and Anderson were healthy, and Welbeck, Jones, and Smalling had runs of good form, the team was very fluid and creative. Defense suffered a bit but this was more than offset by goal scoring. When the injuries started hitting, players like Carrick, Park, and Giggs had to run the midfield, and they are not suited for that kind of game. Scholes coming back helped United's performance, but it also took them further away from the really fluid attacking style they had in the early season.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 17 2012 07:46 GMT
#8863
On May 17 2012 10:57 sc4k wrote:
Man I can't say how upset I am that Hodgson has not picked Micah Richards or Kyle Walker for the England squad. It's an embarrassment. Glen Johnson is a great attacking force but walker rapes him for pace and richards for strength. We are blessed in England with amazing diversity at right back and he has only picked one of the 3 amazing choices...he should have taken at least one of the others. He says he cut back on defenders so he could have more attackers...he's trying to say Phil Jones would be able to 'phil' in for glen if he got injured...but phil jones is a slow ass shitty young CB who couldn't beat micah richards and kyle walker for pace if their feet were tied together. Why not just cut out either james milner or gareth barry. We'd still have 2 left wingers (young + downing), 4 midfielders (lampard gerrard parker milner/barry) and 2 right wingers (ox and theo). Also I'm pretty surprised Welbeck got the nod above Sturridge but maybe it was down to attitude and ability to play selflessly. Sturridge got more goals with less game time and imo is a more exciting and dynamic player. Welbeck's arms are too long and he drags them around weirdly. ALthough then again so does papiss cisse, his arms fly around like this monkey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Si9Xvnp8K8



Walker is injured Reason he didn't go. Not even Capello has picked Richards as of late ;; very sad.
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Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
May 17 2012 07:57 GMT
#8864
Walker is injured and there's a good chance Parker is hurt too.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 17 2012 09:37 GMT
#8865
Ah I see poor kyle walker
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 11:23:33
May 17 2012 11:15 GMT
#8866
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Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
May 17 2012 11:40 GMT
#8867
Wilshere to undergo minor knee procedure

I hope he doesn't turn into a new Diaby ;//
eaT_Mi_Lquid
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany509 Posts
May 17 2012 13:44 GMT
#8868
On May 17 2012 05:34 aqui wrote:
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On May 17 2012 04:47 UdderChaos wrote:
On May 17 2012 04:34 Sanctimonius wrote:
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I'm still unsure about the M'Vila deal. I mean, we have Song, and we have up and comings in Frimpong and Coquelin. Sure, M'Vila, by all accounts, is a good player and a solid defmid, probably better at covering the defenders than Song is, who likes to get forward. But shouldn't we be concentrating on our back line than signing another midfielder?

edit: Also shocking choices in the England squad for the Euroes. I mean, Rooney, despite being banned for the first two games, is a must. The forward line....meeeeeh. I probably would have gone for Crouch over Carroll, but I guess he has had a bit of form recently and maybe Hodgson thinks he can get more out of him than Dalgleish did. Speaking of Liverpool players...

Downing? Seriously, what the fuck. The guy doesn't have a single goal or assist this year. I'll repeat that: the left winger, who's job it is to beat the fullback and get the ball in the box, doesn't have a single assist or goal this whole year. He isn't that good at the best of times, and now you're taking him to the Euros on the back of the worst form of his career...? Can anyone actually come up with a reason for this, other than 'We need a left sided player'? For me, Adam Johnson, hands down, should be going in front of him. Despite a lack of playing time at City he's contributed a hell of a lot more over the season. Hell, I'd play Young here instead. And Glen Johnson at right back? Really? Another member of a vastly underachieving team this year, and has apparently never learned to defend. Decent going forward but cannot tackle or position himself to save his life. Richards should be here, 100%.

Looking at the lineup I can see we're not going 4-3-3. I'll guess our normal, stodgy 4-4-2 will be the backup, and we'll play 4-5-1 with both Lamps and Gerrard in the middle with Parker just behind, because hey, that's always worked in the past. Poor selection albeit in a very short space of time without being able to work with his squad. I think we'll struggle to finish second behind France in the group and get knocked out in the first knockout regardless of who we play.

Yeah i totally agree, Don't understand why carrick isn't in the squad either, lampard and Gerrard don't work well together take one, and put carrick in the middle too, he was playing really well for untied and might offer something different. Sure hes not a world class goal scoring midfielder but hes got experience and hes on form,

On a different note, as united fan can someone who watches bundesliga tell me what they think of Shinji Kagawa? apparently hes coming to united (pretty strong rumors, not just tabloid trash, its confirmed he flew to Britain to talk to fergie the other day ect.) he looks good on youtube videos, but so do a lot of players.

He is brilliant in Dortmund but im not sure how he will perform in Manchester. His strength is that he is lightning quick in his head which fits perfect to Dortmunds very fast way to play. His strength show if he has a team that runs a lot, changes pace rapidly etc. Physically he is rather weak and allthough he has great control he would be easy to neutralize on his own. I'm pretty sure he won't fail hard, he has very nimble feet a great touch and his passes can be spectacular, but im not sure whether he can really shine in Manchester, really depends on their system. I think it is really a petty that he is leaving Dortmund as it basically the perfect place for him.

He needs space and in Dortmund 10 men constantly run to create it. This is a random youtube skill video, but the second half of it demonstrates exactly that. I dont think in the last 4 minutes there is one scene where not half oh his team is sprinting somewhere. He is great on the counter or with his teammates opening spaces but whether he will fit united, judge yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvDkVejQWmI&feature=player_embedded#!


Kagawa is pretty awesome, he's the best number 10 in the Bundesliga this season. As a Bayern fan he's hurt my heart many times this season, but i can not be angry on him cuz he's really awesome ;_;.

This guy is deadly with his passes and his quick head, he would actually suit to Barcelona if there would be no Messi on the same position ... He's fast, has great control, has great understanding of the game and shines in Dortmund's combination play. Only weakness is the rather weak finishing (although he scored a lot of goals for Dortmund) ...
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 17 2012 21:33 GMT
#8869
Martinez new Liverpool manager? Will be interesting to see what he can accomplish at a higher stage.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 21:50:03
May 17 2012 21:48 GMT
#8870
He wont take the Liverpool job, remember he did the same last season when Villa came calling, he will turn it down for one more season at Wigan im sure.

Villa owner Randy Learner flew out to Norway today to discuss the managerial vacancy with Ole Gunnar Soljskear to give him the job if you beleive reports..
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
May 18 2012 12:40 GMT
#8871
To be fair, liverpool are probably going to make him an offer he can't refuse. Liverpool still have a top half team (barely), unlike villa who look to be the next bolton.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 16:25:57
May 18 2012 14:19 GMT
#8872
UEFA Champions League Final 2012


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Live from the Allianz Arena, Munich - Germany Kick off 18:45 GMT (+00:00)


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Squad Information
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Injury News - Only injury concern i can honestly give is Flourent Malouda as he picked up a calf strain in the last league game of the season vs Blackburn and has not been in training all week, just been jogging and gym work inside.
Cahill and Luiz will be fit and will be playing in the Chelsea central defense in the game.

Possible Line Ups
There is two possible formation and line ups Roberto DiMatteo will play against Bayern, most have been forced onto him thanks to the suspensions the players have picked up, the following are my opinions
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Standard Chelsea 4-2-3-1
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Or the 4-3-3 they have used vs Barcelona

Suspended: John Terry, Branislav Ivanovic, Ramires, Raul Meireles


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Squad Information
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Injury News
No injury news that i am aware of, VanBuyten is back in training as i am aware and has been for the past few weeks, if they wanted him to play CB im sure he will be available to do so.

Possible Line Ups
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Possible they go 4-2-3-1 with Muller Robben Ribery and Gomez all on from the start
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Or this formation which i find a bit more unlikely due to the fact VanBuyten hasnt played much

Suspended: Holger Badstuber, David Alaba, Luiz Gustavo


FC Bayern will be looking to add a 5th Champions League (European Cup) trophy to their vast collection they have aquired over the years, whilst Chelsea will be looking to start their collection with a first. Many tip Bayern to be favorites for the game not only because they are a good team and would probably edge it on a footballing scale but the fact they get to play the final of a the biggest competition in Europe in their backyard.

Gomez vs Drogba

Drogba vs Gomez is going be the key to both teams victory, can Gomez boss the Chelsea back four into submission and dominate like he did vs Real Madrid, or will Drogba get the better of Boateng and whoever his partner is (all be it he turns up) and Chelsea get to play off him and win the game that way. Will be key these two have good games for the goals to be high in the match in my opinion, but who knows Chelsea can defend and well Bayern are German they know what it takes to win.

Robbery vs Chelsea Defence

So, we all know how good Robben and Ribery are, fantastic pace the pair of them, with Robben the quicker of the two and fantastic feet to be able to do what they want with the football. Whether its beating a man to cross or beating a man to get a pop shot on goal Robben and Ribery have done fantastically well this season, and it brings to the question can they do it in the big game? If they do Chelsea will have huge problems in there back four (not first choice back four) and might be overwhelmed by the pace and skill of the Bayern wingers. However if Chelsea shut up shop in the fashion they did vs Barcelona Ribery and Robben should be no problems for them and could be dangerous on the counter attack (Personally i think this will be the way Chelsea play this game).
Chelsea have defended like kings to get through their semi final whilst Bayern expressed themselves in the Bernabeu to get into there home final, so how will it go? Chelsea defence dictate or will Bayern's offense obliterate?

Predictions

Who Will Win?

Poll: FC Bayern Munchen vs Chelsea FC

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62%

Chelsea FC (35)
 
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91 total votes

Your vote: FC Bayern Munchen vs Chelsea FC

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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18519 Posts
May 18 2012 16:01 GMT
#8873
Gomez has scored once vs the top6 of the Bundesliga this season I believe. He has also been invisible vs Dortmund.

He wont be of any help to Bayern in the final, its more a question of how Robbery will play that day.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 16:14:32
May 18 2012 16:08 GMT
#8874
I don't pay attention to football much but wouldn't such a huge event merit its own thread?
Stuck.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 16:26:40
May 18 2012 16:13 GMT
#8875
On May 19 2012 01:08 Wala.Revolution wrote:
I don't pay attention to football much but wouldn't such a huge event merit it's own thread?


I did think about that when i got halfway through making this post xD who knows xD

I'll ask a mod xD

Woop access granted, will make new thread for it.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
May 18 2012 16:16 GMT
#8876
Chelsea 4-1 Bayern

Torres hat-trick no prob.
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Hadley_
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany157 Posts
May 18 2012 16:37 GMT
#8877
A german here rooting for Chelsea. I hope they finally win it. I'm a big fan of Drogba and that would be a great end for his career on a Top-Team.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 18 2012 16:45 GMT
#8878
Oh please win Bayern.
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Retric
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany284 Posts
May 18 2012 16:51 GMT
#8879
On May 19 2012 01:37 Hadley_ wrote:
A german here rooting for Chelsea. I hope they finally win it. I'm a big fan of Drogba and that would be a great end for his career on a Top-Team.


Traitor.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
May 18 2012 16:54 GMT
#8880
I just want a fun open game, Ribery has been a beast lately.
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