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Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
March 16 2012 10:53 GMT
#4321
Hope Bayern draws Barca and gets crushed. Most likely they will get Nikosia...^^
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 10:58:55
March 16 2012 10:58 GMT
#4322
So ok. Barca-Real would be a great game, but I don't want to see it in the quarter-finals. Hoping for a draw that will give us a clasico in the semifinals with bayern being in the other half.
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 11:03:54
March 16 2012 11:00 GMT
#4323
Nikosia - Real
Marseille - Bayern
Benfica - Chelsea
Milan - Barca

semi-finals:

Bayern/Marseille - Real/Nikosia
Benfica/Chelsea - Milan/Barca
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 11:04:39
March 16 2012 11:02 GMT
#4324
So it is:
APOEL-Real
Marseille-Bayern
Benfica-Chelsea
Milan-Barca
Semifinals:
Marseille/Bayern-APOEL/Real
Benfica/Chelsea-Milan/Barca.
edit: meh I'm too slow.
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
March 16 2012 11:05 GMT
#4325
90% chance for a Bayern vs Real semifinal
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 11:08:21
March 16 2012 11:07 GMT
#4326
Barca - Madrid final.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 11:09:18
March 16 2012 11:08 GMT
#4327
APOEL vs Real Madrid

Marsielle vs Bayern Munchen

Benfica vs Chelsea

Milan vs Barcelona


APOEL/Real Madrid vs Marsielle/Bayern Munchen (semi final 1)

Benfica/Chelsea vs Milan/Barcelona (semi final 2)

Semi final 1 vs Semi final 2 (Final)

Biggest news for me, Bayern have chance to play as the HOME team at HOME in the champions league final...niceeee
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
March 16 2012 11:16 GMT
#4328
It's a good Draw. Only Apoel - Real is a really one sided Game, the other games are more or less 50-50
antas
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 11:37:29
March 16 2012 11:24 GMT
#4329
On March 16 2012 05:01 Timurid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 04:50 Copymizer wrote:
Bilbao is better than #1 in PL?

Why do la liga funboys always start up shit?
Aside from that Athletic just trashed Utd. I don't understand why park was in the lineup after getting demolish in the first leg? Llorente strike was a beauty and that strike was on his weak foot i believed not to sure tho. Muniain is a beast on the side. Can't wait for the Copa Del Rey Final Athletic vs Barca what a good match. I saw the previous Athletic vs Barca match a few months ago in San Mamés. Messi was lackluster in that game tho and it was raining so the pitch was flying all over the place. Nevertheless, it was a close game! I want Athletic to win the europa to show their cantera policy is awesome!


I think there are some merit to SPL > BPL sentiment at the moment, at least in term of off the ball movement and workrate, it seems to me that SPL (at least Bilbao) is couple of light years away than average BPL teams. I'm following BPL most of the time, but I do watch SPL in some occassion, and I'm pretty much sure that SPL is much more entertaining for me. Most of the team in SPL do have decent, quick, and more accurate passing than average BPL game. Sometime I feel that most of BPL game is much more frantic, and perhaps a bit harsh to say this, but I think it seems that they are sometime clueless with the ball. And here I'm not talking about Barca and Madrid, I rarely watch them for some reason.

I must admit though, that when it comes to like and dislike, people do have their own preferences of what they love or not. For me, I love quick pass and move football (mostly short and intended pass), some people love long and direct football (kick & rush) etc. But I'm quite confident to say, in regards to off the ball movement, Bilbao are some degree better than average BPL team.

Regarding Sir Alex decission to start Park, I believe that he didn't want Bilbao to control the midfield area, like what they did in the first leg. Park arguably still the best defensive attacking midfield, with the highest workrate, that MU have. And with Giggs playing in front of the midfield center, MU need Park to provide some cover for that. Giggs is good, but certainly can't keep up with sheer energy and workrate of Bilbao midfields, this something that Park can offer. While I can justify the inclusion of Park, I can't see the reason why Hernandez or Chicarito not playing. Both Hernandez and Chicarito love to exploit the space behind the defense line, and with high defense line that Bilbao played, both of them will almost guaranteed to create something, or the very least they can push Bilbao defense back to their own goal. Perhaps Sir Alex didn't think that Bilbao will play with high defense line after the precious away win at Old Trafford. (or perhaps it was just simply that Sir Alex doesn't want to lose concentration in the EPL).
Entaro Adun!
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
March 16 2012 11:29 GMT
#4330
We can just hand out the cup to Barca already. Noone can stop them.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
antas
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia300 Posts
March 16 2012 11:34 GMT
#4331
On March 16 2012 20:08 Pandemona wrote:
APOEL vs Real Madrid

Marsielle vs Bayern Munchen

Benfica vs Chelsea

Milan vs Barcelona


APOEL/Real Madrid vs Marsielle/Bayern Munchen (semi final 1)

Benfica/Chelsea vs Milan/Barcelona (semi final 2)

Semi final 1 vs Semi final 2 (Final)

Biggest news for me, Bayern have chance to play as the HOME team at HOME in the champions league final...niceeee


Very nice,

I would love to see Milan vs Barca game, two teams with total opposite way of football. Even though Milan might lose, but certainly they will not easily go down, at least not without a good fight

Barca is still the team to beat, and among those team, I rate Milan and Munchen as the highest team to be able to beat Barca. Madrid certainly has all the potential and always a genuine contender, but they still lack an edge to beat Barca. Although the last Barca v Madrid game is very good, and for the very first time I see the true potential of Madrid unleashed.

It will be interesting At least for a neutral spectator like me (I'm Liverpool fan).
Entaro Adun!
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 11:41:50
March 16 2012 11:41 GMT
#4332
On March 16 2012 20:29 Steveling wrote:
We can just hand out the cup to Barca already. Noone can stop them.


Yes, apart from Real Sociedad, Valencia, Sevilla, Athletic Bilbao, Getafe, Espanyol, Villarreal, Osasuna, Real Madrid and AC Milan, no one has been able to stop them this year.

Just making the point that no team is unbeatable and there is a lot of uncertainty in football. Barcelona have yet to prove they are the best team in Spain this year, much less in Europe.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 16 2012 11:43 GMT
#4333
On March 16 2012 20:41 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 20:29 Steveling wrote:
We can just hand out the cup to Barca already. Noone can stop them.


Yes, apart from Real Sociedad, Valencia, Sevilla, Athletic Bilbao, Getafe, Espanyol, Villarreal, Osasuna, Real Madrid and AC Milan, no one has been able to stop them this year.

Just making the point that no team is unbeatable and there is a lot of uncertainty in football. Barcelona have yet to prove they are the best team in Spain this year, much less in Europe.


Agree, many people think Milan can cause the shock. Personally i don't think more chance Marsielle beating Bayern than Milan doing Barca, just because of what happend in the Emirates!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
March 16 2012 11:45 GMT
#4334
On March 16 2012 04:43 haitike wrote:
I still cant believe that Bilbao have 23 basque players without any player from other spain province or country. Bilbao "cantera" is awesome.


That is sooooo false xD

Llorente is from La Rioja.

Bilbao looks for any link to a relative that is from euskadi or navarra, and exploits it's own policies xD
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
March 16 2012 11:47 GMT
#4335
On March 16 2012 20:24 antas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 05:01 Timurid wrote:
On March 16 2012 04:50 Copymizer wrote:
Bilbao is better than #1 in PL?

Why do la liga funboys always start up shit?
Aside from that Athletic just trashed Utd. I don't understand why park was in the lineup after getting demolish in the first leg? Llorente strike was a beauty and that strike was on his weak foot i believed not to sure tho. Muniain is a beast on the side. Can't wait for the Copa Del Rey Final Athletic vs Barca what a good match. I saw the previous Athletic vs Barca match a few months ago in San Mamés. Messi was lackluster in that game tho and it was raining so the pitch was flying all over the place. Nevertheless, it was a close game! I want Athletic to win the europa to show their cantera policy is awesome!


I think there are some merit to SPL > BPL sentiment at the moment, at least in term of off the ball movement and workrate, it seems to me that SPL (at least Bilbao) is couple of light years away than average BPL teams. I'm following BPL most of the time, but I do watch SPL in some occassion, and I'm pretty much sure that SPL is much more entertaining for me. Most of the team in SPL do have decent, quick, and more accurate passing than average BPL game. Sometime I feel that most of BPL game is much more frantic, and perhaps a bit harsh to say this, but I think it seems that they are sometime clueless with the ball. And here I'm not talking about Barca and Madrid, I rarely watch them for some reason.

I must admit though, that when it comes to like and dislike, people do have their own preferences of what they love or not. For me, I love quick pass and move football (mostly short and intended pass), some people love long and direct football (kick & rush) etc. But I'm quite confident to say, in regards to off the ball movement, Bilbao are some degree better than average BPL team.

Regarding Sir Alex decission to start Park, I believe that he didn't want Bilbao to control the midfield area, like what they did in the first leg. Park arguably still the best defensive attacking midfield, with the highest workrate, that MU have. And with Giggs playing in front of the midfield center, MU need Park to provide some cover for that. Giggs is good, but certainly can't keep up with sheer energy and workrate of Bilbao midfields, this something that Park can offer. While I can justify the inclusion of Park, I can't see the reason why Hernandez or Chicarito not playing. Both Hernandez and Chicarito love to exploit the space behind the defense line, and with high defense line that Bilbao played, both of them will almost guaranteed to create something, or the very least they can push Bilbao defense back to their own goal. Perhaps Sir Alex didn't think that Bilbao will play with high defense line after the precious away win at Old Trafford. (or perhaps it was just simply that Sir Alex doesn't want to lose concentration in the EPL).

you do know Hernandez and Chicorato is the same person? haha

Anyway yeh, Alex fergusons has shocked me in all of his team selections in Europe this year no wonder man utd got knocked out of champions league and now the uefa cup! GIGGS IS NOT A CENTRE MIDFIELDER AND WILL NEVER BE ONE.... sorry they need to buy two centre midfielders untill pogba comes along... as carrick is too inconsistent, Jones is out of his depth playing there and park while he has workrate cant do the job of 2-3 people...Scholes cant play in mroe then two games in a row, Cleverley is ok but not brilliant, his passing last night was shcoking.... Then thats how bad it is.. I cant think of any other centre midfielder... and that is bad... playing people outof their natural position is not the way to play and nowonder that they are losing so much in europe and the league(and yes i know their top but the EPL has been shocking this year)
Live and Let Die!
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 12:17:58
March 16 2012 12:15 GMT
#4336
EL draw:
Alkmaar - Valencia
Schalke - Bilbao
Sporting - Metalist
Athletico - Hannover

Semis:
Athletico/Hannover - Alkmaar/Valencia
Sporting/Metalist - Schalke/Bilbao
antas
Profile Joined August 2010
Indonesia300 Posts
March 16 2012 12:36 GMT
#4337
On March 16 2012 20:47 Tommylew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 20:24 antas wrote:
On March 16 2012 05:01 Timurid wrote:
On March 16 2012 04:50 Copymizer wrote:
Bilbao is better than #1 in PL?

Why do la liga funboys always start up shit?
Aside from that Athletic just trashed Utd. I don't understand why park was in the lineup after getting demolish in the first leg? Llorente strike was a beauty and that strike was on his weak foot i believed not to sure tho. Muniain is a beast on the side. Can't wait for the Copa Del Rey Final Athletic vs Barca what a good match. I saw the previous Athletic vs Barca match a few months ago in San Mamés. Messi was lackluster in that game tho and it was raining so the pitch was flying all over the place. Nevertheless, it was a close game! I want Athletic to win the europa to show their cantera policy is awesome!


I think there are some merit to SPL > BPL sentiment at the moment, at least in term of off the ball movement and workrate, it seems to me that SPL (at least Bilbao) is couple of light years away than average BPL teams. I'm following BPL most of the time, but I do watch SPL in some occassion, and I'm pretty much sure that SPL is much more entertaining for me. Most of the team in SPL do have decent, quick, and more accurate passing than average BPL game. Sometime I feel that most of BPL game is much more frantic, and perhaps a bit harsh to say this, but I think it seems that they are sometime clueless with the ball. And here I'm not talking about Barca and Madrid, I rarely watch them for some reason.

I must admit though, that when it comes to like and dislike, people do have their own preferences of what they love or not. For me, I love quick pass and move football (mostly short and intended pass), some people love long and direct football (kick & rush) etc. But I'm quite confident to say, in regards to off the ball movement, Bilbao are some degree better than average BPL team.

Regarding Sir Alex decission to start Park, I believe that he didn't want Bilbao to control the midfield area, like what they did in the first leg. Park arguably still the best defensive attacking midfield, with the highest workrate, that MU have. And with Giggs playing in front of the midfield center, MU need Park to provide some cover for that. Giggs is good, but certainly can't keep up with sheer energy and workrate of Bilbao midfields, this something that Park can offer. While I can justify the inclusion of Park, I can't see the reason why Hernandez or Chicarito not playing. Both Hernandez and Chicarito love to exploit the space behind the defense line, and with high defense line that Bilbao played, both of them will almost guaranteed to create something, or the very least they can push Bilbao defense back to their own goal. Perhaps Sir Alex didn't think that Bilbao will play with high defense line after the precious away win at Old Trafford. (or perhaps it was just simply that Sir Alex doesn't want to lose concentration in the EPL).

you do know Hernandez and Chicorato is the same person? haha

Anyway yeh, Alex fergusons has shocked me in all of his team selections in Europe this year no wonder man utd got knocked out of champions league and now the uefa cup! GIGGS IS NOT A CENTRE MIDFIELDER AND WILL NEVER BE ONE.... sorry they need to buy two centre midfielders untill pogba comes along... as carrick is too inconsistent, Jones is out of his depth playing there and park while he has workrate cant do the job of 2-3 people...Scholes cant play in mroe then two games in a row, Cleverley is ok but not brilliant, his passing last night was shcoking.... Then thats how bad it is.. I cant think of any other centre midfielder... and that is bad... playing people outof their natural position is not the way to play and nowonder that they are losing so much in europe and the league(and yes i know their top but the EPL has been shocking this year)


WOOPS :D LOL :D I keep forgetting that, I meant for Welbeck & Hernandez. Well, my old brain, guess I would need to upgrade it, good time that Ivy Bridge is looming in the horizon :D On the other hand, I'm not following MU that much, as I'm a pool fan But yeah, I guess MU this season is stretching to thin, although it's a good thing for opponent fans :D It's just that my club is not performing good enough .. sigh ..


Entaro Adun!
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
March 16 2012 15:50 GMT
#4338
Call me crazy, but even as a Milan fan, I am pretty happy with the draws overall. Possibly, although unlikely I'll admit, I hope to see Milan get through despite having to face Barca a total of 4 matches this Champions League. FORZA MILAN!!! ^^

Hoping for a Milan - Madrid finals!!
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
March 16 2012 18:33 GMT
#4339
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haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2743 Posts
March 16 2012 18:46 GMT
#4340
It seems Abidal is going to stop playing football after his liver trasplant. So sad, he is a good player

Well, i guess Barcelona will have to get a lot of new players next year.
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