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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
December 03 2011 18:56 GMT
#2341
On December 03 2011 03:26 Stuv wrote:
I want to see moar of this.

[image loading]



You want to see more of Portugal finishing 2nd in the Euro Cup?

Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
December 03 2011 19:16 GMT
#2342
On December 04 2011 03:56 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:26 Stuv wrote:
I want to see moar of this.

[image loading]



You want to see more of Portugal finishing 2nd in the Euro Cup?



Are you saying that to a dutch guy? Really?
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
December 03 2011 19:24 GMT
#2343
On December 03 2011 19:26 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
that is not how modern football works

(hint: messi with argentina vs messi with barcelona)


On Barca he has iniesta and xavi who make him look godly.. it's exactly how modern football works.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 03 2011 19:28 GMT
#2344
On December 04 2011 04:16 Vernom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2011 03:56 bObaZ wrote:
On December 03 2011 03:26 Stuv wrote:
I want to see moar of this.

[image loading]



You want to see more of Portugal finishing 2nd in the Euro Cup?



Are you saying that to a dutch guy? Really?


that's all i got.
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
December 03 2011 19:53 GMT
#2345
In that image Ronaldo was crying cuz Portugal Lost to Greece in the Final of Euro 2004. If we get to the final yet again in 2012, i'll be a happy camper!
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
December 03 2011 23:28 GMT
#2346
On December 04 2011 04:24 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 19:26 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
that is not how modern football works

(hint: messi with argentina vs messi with barcelona)


On Barca he has iniesta and xavi who make him look godly.. it's exactly how modern football works.

Messi 2 games without Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas just 1 = 6 goals.
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3821 Posts
December 03 2011 23:36 GMT
#2347
damn that eurocup group b is insane. cant miss any game out of the group, going to be awesome.
For the Swarm!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
December 04 2011 14:46 GMT
#2348
LOL CITY VS UNITED IN FA CUP
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
December 04 2011 14:55 GMT
#2349
On December 04 2011 23:46 sixfour wrote:
LOL CITY VS UNITED IN FA CUP

leeds, liverpool and now city, can only seem to draw derbies these days
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 04 2011 15:50 GMT
#2350
Lol, the Roma players must be drunk. That's the only way to explain what's happening in the game that's going on atm...
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3821 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 20:03:46
December 04 2011 18:37 GMT
#2351
[image loading]
Socrates' remarkable celebration. The balled fist represented his political position against the military dictatorship
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[image loading]

Socrates is dead. He's one of the greatest brazilian midfielders of all time and was a part of our 1982 national team. He was truly a unique character in the football scene as he was known for being a great person. Socrates focused on studies and finished med school before becoming a professional player when he was 23yo. He was a very technical and elegant player.

Unfortunately I can't find any decent video about him, but here is a video of the brazilian 1982 team, which is considered to be our best ever despite not winning the world cup. Socrates donned the number 8 and was easily recognized by his epic beard. In the video below he scores a sick goal at 2:50.

For the Swarm!
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 20:37:34
December 05 2011 20:31 GMT
#2352
On December 03 2011 18:30 Malaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 11:54 warding wrote:
Portugal has at least 5 world class players who can play in any team in the world: Coentrão, Moutinho, Ronaldo, Nani, Pepe. Then the second tier group isn't that bad. We do still have the eternal problem of not having a striker.

1. Portugal
2. Germany
3. Netherlands
4. Denmark


Just looking at the names you're absolutly right, but somehow they didn't play as well as in their clubs when they played with the national team in the past. There is a reason why they had to play the qualifiers for the last two big events and if they don't pick up their game, it don't see them advancing. Mind you, they only finished second behind Denmark in their group. Because of the great players they do have they are of course capable of doing so and if they do, they will be a scary team to play.
Btw another example of a national team with great individualists that somehow play way worse than at the clubs is Argentina. They have Messi and all those other great players, but still they don't really perform well.

Portugal always suffers a lot from the lack of rythm that the qualifiers imply. They always up their game when they're concentrated on the finals of a Euro/World Cup. It's gonna be a tough group, no doubt about it, but also with great games between all of the teams. Personally I think we can go second in the group, Denmark doesn't really hold up together and the Netherlands for some reason always chokes against Portugal. But it's gonna be hard, that's for sure.
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
December 06 2011 12:55 GMT
#2353
On December 06 2011 05:31 GrungyMunchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 18:30 Malaz wrote:
On December 03 2011 11:54 warding wrote:
Portugal has at least 5 world class players who can play in any team in the world: Coentrão, Moutinho, Ronaldo, Nani, Pepe. Then the second tier group isn't that bad. We do still have the eternal problem of not having a striker.

1. Portugal
2. Germany
3. Netherlands
4. Denmark


Just looking at the names you're absolutly right, but somehow they didn't play as well as in their clubs when they played with the national team in the past. There is a reason why they had to play the qualifiers for the last two big events and if they don't pick up their game, it don't see them advancing. Mind you, they only finished second behind Denmark in their group. Because of the great players they do have they are of course capable of doing so and if they do, they will be a scary team to play.
Btw another example of a national team with great individualists that somehow play way worse than at the clubs is Argentina. They have Messi and all those other great players, but still they don't really perform well.

Portugal always suffers a lot from the lack of rythm that the qualifiers imply. They always up their game when they're concentrated on the finals of a Euro/World Cup. It's gonna be a tough group, no doubt about it, but also with great games between all of the teams. Personally I think we can go second in the group, Denmark doesn't really hold up together and the Netherlands for some reason always chokes against Portugal. But it's gonna be hard, that's for sure.


Great games, all of them, granted. But it's going to be really hard for Portugal.
They have a few extremely good players, but the overall quality, especially in midfield, doesn't seem enough to cope with Germany or Netherlands.

Current Netherlands are very strong on wingers and central midfield, both regions where Portugal lack in defense (Coentrao can take up the pace on a good day, but that is not a given). The main striker won't get any chances, but Sneijder will have enough chances to force a wonderstrike home. Ronaldo and Nani can make the difference on a good day of course, but if you lose the midfield battle, there won't be many chances for them to get in position.

For Germany in the current form, on the other hand, they are too one-dimensional. Lahm is one of the few players in the world that can pick up Ronaldo in a straight up challenge and has done before, and Loew would be stupid to not set up that pair. And without Ronaldo, Portugal are not very dangerous. The weakest region in Germany's defense is centre backs, and there is no threat from Portugal in that region.
On the other hand, the strongest region of Portugal in defense, the centre backs Pepe and Carvalho, are likely to be dragged out of positions against Özil and Klose due to their unconventional front up play, where both the defenders cannot profit from their main strength. If Germany fields Gomez in that game as the central striker though, Portugal are likely to keep a clean sheep.

And then they are better than Denmark on paper of course, but they lost to them in qualifiers aswell, so this isn't a walkover either. That team has such a good chemistry, and in any other group they would be the dark horse of the tournament I guess.

Overall, its an exciting group of which you can blog about for every single day until the tournament starts, I guess. Cannot wait until it takes off.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
Zyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands564 Posts
December 06 2011 19:52 GMT
#2354
Wow, that was quick from Chelsea. Drogba with a nice goal.
ret * Leenock * DiMAGA * Grubby * FBH
King.Crimson
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 21:43:50
December 06 2011 21:43 GMT
#2355
Lol 3-2 for OM after being down 0-2 vs Dortmund. Olympiacos must be really pissed off right now. Anyone seen the match, any evidence of it being fixed after Dortmund realised they don't have a chance to qualify anymore?
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2108 Posts
December 06 2011 21:57 GMT
#2356
Barca's B-team just cleaning up Bate borisov xD.
Watching Chelsea vs Valencia was brilliant tho. Thinking Valencia is 3rd in Primera division, premier league is just alot faster play than (la liga) Valencia who didn't move much, it's more about having the ball for a long time. Really depressing considering they're 3rd
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 06 2011 22:11 GMT
#2357
wow braca legit fielded their reserve side in a champion's league match, a bit disrespectful imo to the competition and their opponents.
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
December 06 2011 22:19 GMT
#2358
On December 07 2011 07:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
wow braca legit fielded their reserve side in a champion's league match, a bit disrespectful imo to the competition and their opponents.


Not really disrespectful most teams do that when they are already qualified.
NaDa <3, MMA <3, Bisu <3,
King.Crimson
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania478 Posts
December 06 2011 22:20 GMT
#2359
On December 07 2011 07:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:
wow braca legit fielded their reserve side in a champion's league match, a bit disrespectful imo to the competition and their opponents.


No. They are resting their core line-up for the big upcoming El Clasico this week. If anything, they actually made BATE a favor, since Borisov needed a win to qualify for Europa League.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
December 06 2011 23:01 GMT
#2360
Wow, Apoel Nicosia manages to the top the group above Porto and Shakhtar Donetsk. A bit embarassing for both teams there.
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