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HejaBVB
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany125 Posts
March 15 2012 01:26 GMT
#1881
On March 15 2012 09:41 Torrnado wrote:
With Dissapointing Age II, Wow in space, and now Dissapointing Effect III I'm confident that I'll never buy another Bioware game again


Yep, no idea what happened to BioWare since they are owned by EA.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 15 2012 01:49 GMT
#1882
On March 15 2012 10:04 Miyoshino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 09:09 askTeivospy wrote:
On March 15 2012 08:59 Miyoshino wrote:

My advice. Don't pay for games.


this is the exact reason why developers have become assholes to the community


What a nonsense. That's what they say. You believe them? It makes no sense. There are people willing to pay money for games. From those people they try to take as much money as possible. Piracy or not, that doesn't change that. If making DLC is the right strategy with piracy, it also is without it. Making a bad game is never the right strategy. Making a game cheap that people will buy anyway is always the right strategy.

There's too many fanboys that will buy AAA titles no matter what. They are being exploited because their 'strategy' at buying games is flawed and developers exploit that.


But apart from it being too casual, I don't think Mass Effect games are low production or cheap. Rushing games has been endemic in gaming for about a decade. Before that AAA titles used to be the exception to thos.
Releasing games only when they were perfect and you have to go back to games like Dungeon Keeper and Starcraft. Maybe some of you remember how long those games were delayed.
After that, big games were all released with a tight schedule. Just look at Diablo 2, act 4. It only has 3 waypoints where all other acts have 9. Game wasn't finished. Ending was rushed.
For the last 10 years it has really been impossible to delay a game for a year because a AAA title with 1 year dated graphics isn't going to sell and then a huge investment is ruined.

Yes, with Mass Effect 3 it was kind of obvious. But really one should have gotten used to it. Maybe it is more striking because the two earlier reaper battles were quite good and many players expected the ending to be a real climax epic battle wise.


Incorrect. Piracy means that the devs lose profit, which is entirely true and believable. I pay for games because I feel like the devs deserve it. In ME3's case, they deserved it very much, despite the ending.

Pirating a new game is just a bad idea, both personally and morally.
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Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 02:00:05
March 15 2012 01:58 GMT
#1883
Did you even read? Just because devs make less money beause of piracy, it doesn't mean their strategy changes.
People that pirate a game have the same effect as people who don't play games. In fact, if anything it would actually do the opposite of what is claimed. Some people may only buy games that are extremely good. They first play them for free then 'vote with their wallet'.

Devs that make bad games should lose profit. If so, piracy would actually discourage rushed games, bad endings and lame DLC rather than encourage it. So blaming this on pirates is silly because if they actually have an effect, they have a positive one rather than a negative one.
And this is actually what some devs claim they see and what some devs base their stratey on.

What piracy may do is lower the size of the market and thus also the budget of the titles.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 15 2012 02:11 GMT
#1884
On March 15 2012 10:58 Miyoshino wrote:
Did you even read? Just because devs make less money beause of piracy, it doesn't mean their strategy changes.
People that pirate a game have the same effect as people who don't play games. In fact, if anything it would actually do the opposite of what is claimed. Some people may only buy games that are extremely good. They first play them for free then 'vote with their wallet'.

Devs that make bad games should lose profit. If so, piracy would actually discourage rushed games, bad endings and lame DLC rather than encourage it. So blaming this on pirates is silly because if they actually have an effect, they have a positive one rather than a negative one.
And this is actually what some devs claim they see and what some devs base their stratey on.

What piracy may do is lower the size of the market and thus also the budget of the titles.


So what you're saying is that pirates will only pirate bad games, and the good ones they will actually buy after "trying them out".

I don't know about you, but I don't have the urge to spend money on something I already have.
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Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 02:29:28
March 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#1885
Like I said, you vote with your wallet. People that do pirate games know that as well as anyone else or maybe better. If you pay for bad games you encouraget the making of bad games. If you pay for good games you encouage the making of good games.

I think you should reread so you understand it. Or maybe you aren't trying hard enough. Epsecially since you already make the argument yourself. You want to pay for good games. You really don't know why you want to do that?

So it's hard to believe your response is genuine. I don't really know what to say.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
March 15 2012 02:29 GMT
#1886
Looking to be spoilered here:

+ Show Spoiler +
How does the Citidel attack by Cerberus work if you make Anderson the human councilor? I aint gonna suffer through ME1 to figure this out
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 15 2012 02:30 GMT
#1887
On March 15 2012 11:29 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Looking to be spoilered here:

+ Show Spoiler +
How does the Citidel attack by Cerberus work if you make Anderson the human councilor? I aint gonna suffer through ME1 to figure this out


+ Show Spoiler +
Anderson quits and becomes and Admiral. Udina takes over. And Shepard or the survivor kill him
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CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
March 15 2012 02:31 GMT
#1888
Pirates don't vote with their wallet. They download things for free because there is almost no chance of repercussions.

User was warned for this post
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 15 2012 02:34 GMT
#1889
On March 15 2012 11:31 CobaltBlu wrote:
Pirates don't vote with their wallet. They download things for free because there is almost no chance of repercussions.


Pretty much what I've been trying to hammer through.

I love the ME series. How did I start out? I pirated all 150 dollars worth of content and DLC. It was amazing(the games).

Have I bought them yet?

Nope.

User was warned for this post
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Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 02:41:22
March 15 2012 02:34 GMT
#1890
Dude, don't lie. If you don't buy you also vote. Also, pirating a game and buying a game aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both or neither.

Also, it makes no sense to suggest that you should never pirate because then you don't pay. If you don't want to pay, then don't and pirate if you want the game. If you want to pay you can do so at any point. It makes no sense to suggest that by never pirating you can trick yourself into paying when you don't want to. I understand very well that many people just decide to pirate and not buy. But if you aren't willing to pay after pirating, how are you willing to pay without pirating? Doesn't make sense. If you don't want to pay you don't want to pay. If after pirating you aren't willing to pay you weren't willing to pay before you pirated. Hence you pirated. How does this ever lead into not pirating and paying? I don't see it. You say "Why pay for something you already have?" Well I say "Why pay for something you can have for free." What is the difference? There is none.

Maybe you can somehow trick yourself into never pirating ever. But it is not a logical argument.

User was warned for this post
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 15 2012 02:41 GMT
#1891
On March 15 2012 11:34 Miyoshino wrote:
Dude, don't lie. If you don't buy you also vote. Also, pirating a game and buying a game aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both or neither.

Also, it makes no sense to suggest that you should never pirate because then you don't pay. If you don't want to pay, then don't and pirate if you want the game. If you want to pay you can do so at any point. It makes no sense to suggest that by never pirating you can trick yourself into paying when you don't want to. I understand very well that many people just decide to pirate and not buy. But if you aren't willing to pay after pirating, how are you willing to pay without pirating? Doesn't make sense. If you don't want to pay you don't want to pay. If after pirating you aren't willing to pay you weren't willing to pay before you pirate. Hence you pirate.

Maybe you can somehow trick yourself into never pirating ever. But it is not a logical argument.


Maybe both of us should stop clogging up this thread with logic loops more suited to a high school S&D team.

Acknowledge mutual disagreement and continue hating on EA!
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
March 15 2012 02:42 GMT
#1892
On March 15 2012 11:30 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 11:29 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Looking to be spoilered here:

+ Show Spoiler +
How does the Citidel attack by Cerberus work if you make Anderson the human councilor? I aint gonna suffer through ME1 to figure this out


+ Show Spoiler +
Anderson quits and becomes and Admiral. Udina takes over. And Shepard or the survivor kill him

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow....Thats sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lame. What a lazy write
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 15 2012 02:48 GMT
#1893
On March 15 2012 11:42 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 11:30 Praetorial wrote:
On March 15 2012 11:29 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Looking to be spoilered here:

+ Show Spoiler +
How does the Citidel attack by Cerberus work if you make Anderson the human councilor? I aint gonna suffer through ME1 to figure this out


+ Show Spoiler +
Anderson quits and becomes and Admiral. Udina takes over. And Shepard or the survivor kill him

+ Show Spoiler +
Wow....Thats sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lame. What a lazy write


Yeah. You can only figure it out via codex entries.
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
March 15 2012 04:11 GMT
#1894
What comics/DLC do I need to get to bridge the plot gap between ME2 and ME3? Only the important stuff, please. For example, I consider Lair of the Shadow Broker to be pretty important, plot-wise. What about Arrival?
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 15 2012 05:19 GMT
#1895
On March 15 2012 13:11 Karliath wrote:
What comics/DLC do I need to get to bridge the plot gap between ME2 and ME3? Only the important stuff, please. For example, I consider Lair of the Shadow Broker to be pretty important, plot-wise. What about Arrival?

arrival is important story wise, its just pretty terrible dlc
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
March 15 2012 05:25 GMT
#1896
On March 15 2012 14:19 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 13:11 Karliath wrote:
What comics/DLC do I need to get to bridge the plot gap between ME2 and ME3? Only the important stuff, please. For example, I consider Lair of the Shadow Broker to be pretty important, plot-wise. What about Arrival?

arrival is important story wise, its just pretty terrible dlc

I'll probably just watch a youtube walkthough then. Thanks.
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
March 15 2012 05:28 GMT
#1897
I stayed away from ME3 related stuff to avoid spoilers and now that I've finished it....I'm fairly satisfied. Yeah the ending sucked balls but does it completely ruin the fact that the rest of the game was awesome? For me it doesn't. I definetly had a lot of fun playing through it and would definetly put it up there with the past 2 games if not more so. People comparing it to DA2 is def taking it too far....DA2 was just a piece of shit game as a whole. This was a great game with a poor ending....something that's pretty common nowadays so I set my expectations low for it from it. Look at Deus Ex Revolution for example....ending in that game was just as bad as this one if not worse. Does that make it a crap game? I don't think it does. Only thing that REALLY dissapointed me is the fact that your building up this huge army through the whole game and in the end you don't do jack with it. Esp after ME2's ending and the crew decisions that went into that....only explanation is that they ran out of time and rushed it in the end.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 05:36:54
March 15 2012 05:35 GMT
#1898
On March 13 2012 10:45 Praetorial wrote:
I'm finding it easy to pretend this was the true ending...

http://arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125

I've convinced myself of it.

+ Show Spoiler +
herp why not just say Sheppard never left the geth collective, and all after he entered was a simulation, which was a joke made by joker after the mission. DLC that it and rewrite the ending. Frankly that ending isn't much better then the original the premise of all that is just as worn out the only difference is slightly more closure is given by giving motive but the end of that is just as shitty by making it a mnight shamlamadingdong crap, but it does have something that was missing which was having the ending bring closure to origins of reapers and seeing unfolding of our decisions more so then just bring the crucible to point a.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 07:22:51
March 15 2012 07:21 GMT
#1899
On March 15 2012 14:28 antelope591 wrote:
Yeah the ending sucked balls but does it completely ruin the fact that the rest of the game was awesome? For me it doesn't.


My sentiments. As well as some here but I definitely feel there's too much hate on the game just for the ending. Everything else, except the cover system/controls, is really quite worth it.

HEUG edit: Multiplayer is insanely fun, especially if you play with 3 friends.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
March 15 2012 07:26 GMT
#1900
My nimble and awesome female Shepard turned into an american football player with a face of plastic surgeries gone wrong, what the hell? No fucking way I'm playing this piece of crap and who the hell approved of the running animation?!? Bioware needs to fire people.
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