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On November 28 2010 23:13 Billy_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 22:54 beef42 wrote:On November 28 2010 16:03 Billy_ wrote:
PS:T was shallower than DAO Excuse me? How so? I'm thinking that + Show Spoiler +an immortal amnesiac's quest for his own identity and mortality has a lot more meat on it than yet another + Show Spoiler +orcish invasion that must be stopped by killing the big bad boss. My own recommendation - other than the many great titles already mentioned - is the 2001 RPG Anachronox. It has a very different sci-fi setting that are still conveyed beautyfully by the dated graphics. Just make sure to patch it - it's pretty buggy out of the box. Gameplay. Read the context. Total of three classes, not a whole lot of spells to choose from, no abilities, invincibility and unlimited use of raise dead makes a person feel extremely unmotivated to ponder strategy. Fortunately the player statistics and exploration were boh extremely relevant to the games progression, so you could technically call that a gameplay mechanic which the PST did very well at. It's the rest of the gameplay that kind of lets it down, but I have seen much worse gameplay than what was in PST.
Yeah I completely agree with you on that, though I remember the Curst Prison as a pretty weird spike in combat difficulty. You couldn't ignore combat prowess entirely, only most of the time.
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O yeah, there is a PC version of Final Fantasy 7, which is the best RPG.
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On November 28 2010 16:03 Billy_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2010 15:54 Prinny-tai wrote:On November 28 2010 15:38 Manit0u wrote:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Baldur's Gate I, II and expansions
Fallout I and II
Planescape: Torment
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II
Might and Magic series (although everything below VII or VIII will have a bit too dated graphics for todays computers).
Play these and you're good in the "Best RPG ever made" department. These are some excellent suggestions. I'd like to ad that you can pick up BG1(and 2?) and FO1 and 2 from Good Ol Games. Planescape too I think. In addition I'd recommend TES II as well, it's available for free from Bethesda and for a newer game The Witcher. On November 28 2010 15:51 Billy_ wrote:
Yeah, OP, you'll probably dislike the combat of most of these RPGs but they have some good stories.
I'd disagree, I love all those games and found DA:O to have boring combat as well. Most people would agree with that statement. It lacks the strategic depth that a slower turn based game should provide. PS:T was shallower than DAO, KotOR is about as shallow as they get before turning into an action game, Morrowind is different, I've never played Might and Magic. BGII had a lot more depth than DAO, though I don't know about the original I remember having difficulty with BGI but I was young at the time and it was my first RPG ever, so I don't know how I'd classify it. I don't remember FO I and II clearly enough to decide.
PS:T had an awesome plot and pretty solid character interaction, but it was pretty straight-forward. There wasn't a whole lot of character choices or side-plots, but it is definitely solid. Combat is more simplistic, too, which might appeal to some people unfamiliar with the genre.
I hated Oblivion. There never seemed to be much of a plot and the Oblivion areas all looked identical. It was too sandboxy with almost no direction at all.
BG2 is somewhere between Oblivion and PS:T (much more of the PS:T style) and still a pretty solid game if you use the engine mods.
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infinity engine still looks great , especially with the widescreen mods
no annoying camera angle issue like with most 3D RPGs
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System Shock 1 & 2 (1st Person)
Deus Ex (1st Person)
Fallout 1 & 2 (3 is also good, but you have to spend a week finding the right mods to make it playable, like making Deathclaws actually dangerous and bullets able to hurt you and put everything back into canon  )
Baldurs Gate
Planescape Torment
Gothic 1 & 2
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Anachronox
dreamfall: the longest journey
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On November 28 2010 23:48 slith wrote:System Shock 1 & 2 (1st Person) Deus Ex (1st Person) Fallout 1 & 2 (3 is also good, but you have to spend a week finding the right mods to make it playable, like making Deathclaws actually dangerous and bullets able to hurt you and put everything back into canon ) Baldurs Gate Planescape Torment Gothic 1 & 2
system shock isnt exactly a rpg. but ss2 is def one of the best games ive ever played
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The Witcher is a very good game and has a sequel coming out in the first half of 2011. Highly recommended if you are looking for a more modern RPG.
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Recettear! Once you get past the cutesy anime bullshit, the game's very fun. It's an adventure-RPG though, so if you want freeroaming, this isn't for you.
Oblivion and Morrowind are great games. Morrowind has a lot more interesting setting and story, plus the dialogue is better (thank god for little voice-acting), while Oblivion is more open. Of course, if you want real quality and don't mind 1994-era graphics, you'll get Daggerfall and dosbox from the elder scrolls site - it's free, and it's awesome!
Neverwinter Nights 2 - well, it gets a bit hack and slashy after a while (as do all Dungeons and Dragons games), but the game's still pretty good. I'm not a big fan of multi-character parties, but if you can stand it, it's definately more fast-paced than DA:O and the older DND games.
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Knights of the Old Republic
If you want to get The Sith Lords along with it.....I'd caution you that the game is crazily incomplete. Still a good game while it lasts though.
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since you like starcraft and the reason you didnt like dragon age was because it was too slow i'd recommend mass effect 2, awesome TPS rpg with a better tempo and gameplay then ME1, however altough you dont play the same character as the first game its a continuation of the story... but i think ME2 will let you catch up on what happened in the previous game anyway
gameplay video under the spoilertag
+ Show Spoiler +gameplay videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uC00msnuR4&feature=related
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Thank you everyone for all the great recommendations! after doing a bunch of research on all the games everyone has mentioned, i decided to purchase mass effect 1, fall out new vegas, and oblivion, i'm taking a gamble with oblivion only because i like the fact you can travel ANYWHERE and do what you please. keep the recommendations coming!
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final fantasy 1-10
chrono trigger
chrono cross
baldur's gate 2 shadows of amn
planescape torment
fallout 1/2
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GOG.com is a really good place to find some games cited in this thread, like Fallout 1 & 2 and Planescape. AND Baldur's Gate
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Someone mentionned Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines and I would as well, this game is just so good.
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I know I will probably catch a lot of flack for saying this, but honestly, after the latest patch, I'm going to say World of Warcraft is probably one of the greatest RPG's of all time. It is so much fun to play the game and immerse yourself in the world Blizzard has created.
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You can't go wrong with Oblivion...I love that game. Although you should get the expansion The Shivering Isles after playing it for a while, because the expansion adds good value to the game. Oh yeah...did I see Daggerfall mentioned? Besides the crappy graphics, it was a fantastic game to play THIS year lol.
I also second Star Wars Knights of The Old Republic 1 and 2, both very great games.
And well DA:O wasn't bad for me at all, I enjoyed it very much though.
You should definitely try the Final Fantasy series, especially 4 and 7.
Diablo I and II
Titan Quest
Mass Effect 1 and 2
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On November 29 2010 02:03 famz wrote:
Thank you everyone for all the great recommendations! after doing a bunch of research on all the games everyone has mentioned, i decided to purchase mass effect 1, fall out new vegas, and oblivion, i'm taking a gamble with oblivion only because i like the fact you can travel ANYWHERE and do what you please. keep the recommendations coming!
Have fun with your new games. Opinions on Oblivion vary, but you can't do too much wrong with ME1 and New Vegas. Since you seem to enjoy more action-themed RPGs, those are a good choice.
On November 29 2010 02:43 dANiELcanuck wrote:
I know I will probably catch a lot of flack for saying this, but honestly, after the latest patch, I'm going to say World of Warcraft is probably one of the greatest RPG's of all time. It is so much fun to play the game and immerse yourself in the world Blizzard has created.
No, absolutely not. It all depends on how you choose to play it, and if your goal isn't to reach the maximum level in the shortest time possible and to farm items 24/7, WoW can be an awesome experience.
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One of my fav older RPG games is Jedi Knight III: Jedi Academy. I still have it and play it quite alot. Very entertaining game imo
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