The guild is live on Haomarush EU Horde under the tag <Team Liquid>. We have around 65 members at the time of this edit. Our objectives are to set up a strong core of raiders with the objective of hitting a high ranking in Europe. We will also accept PvPers and casuals. Guild arena teams and rated battleground are something we foresee in our future.
Who do we want ?
* Raiders * PvP'ers * Casuals
1. Guild Structure
Ranks and Responsibilities
The guild is broken down into the following ranks
* Guild Master * Officer * Officer alt * Veteran Member * Member * Alt * Trial
Collectively, Guild Master and Officers are referred to as officers, or leaders
The following gives some basic roles/responsibilities to each of the ranks. These lists show where ultimately the responsibility lies but in almost all cases there is some flexibility, and the points can be discussed at any level we deem sensible. Some specific requirements for all people within the guild are set out later in this thread.
General requirements for signups etc are taken in separate points and apply to all raiding players.
During raids, the highest rank player of each class will act as a raid leader for that raid (so 3 raid leaders), with specific responsibilities. These are covered in point 4.
All active ranks assume the responsibilities of subsequent ranks (excludes the inactive rank, old guy).
Raiding Ranks - You are a representative of our guild. Please act responsibly and professionally! - Please make the officers' jobs easier. Early signups, punctual for raids that kind of stuff. - RECRUITMENT. When the guild needs a new player, we all need the new player so we're all in on this one! - But above all; please remember this is a game; we are here to have fun.
Officers - Lead by example - Raid schedule - Target guild numbers - Player Reviews - Guild bank - GMotD and Notifications - Organisation during raids - Rotations - Calendar events - Handle private applications - Formally approve / deny applications - Identifying recruitment needs - Discuss and award loot in raids. - Understand the needs/requirements of the classes in your camp. - Understand the various factors used to determine who should get loot. - Discuss and help distribute crafted loot. - Be comfortable with acting as master looter during raids.
Veteran Member - Thrall tested, Jaina approved, senior member
Member - Contribute to tactics - Help the officers - Beat the officers at DPS/TPS/HPS and mock them.
Trial - New recruits. Learn to be a member or die trying. Non Raiding Ranks - Represent the guild you have the privelege of being a member of professionally and responsibly - Be nice
Alts - Alternative characters. Edit your guild notes to reflect that your character is an alt.
2. Raid Leading
The raid will be lead by the Raid Leader in conjunction with the officers.
They will decide. - Next boss - Breaks - Group setup - Who sits out
All of these decisions can be discussed with lower ranks.
The officers will each have specific responsibilities when leading the raid. They may delegate the following roles as they see fit, but ultimatly they are responsible for making sure things run smoothly. Where tasks overlap, they may be deferred to one of the players. It should not be assumed that the task is being done just because there's an overlap of responsibilies.
The raid will also have a Master Looter. The master looter will be one of the officers
3. Raiding Schedule and Loot rules:
During progress raiding the following schedule is typically used.
When we think a raid isn't possible or needed, we will endevour to cancel the raid at least 24 hours in advance. (this will only be possible with good use of signups/signoffs). We are still working on such a system, please bear with us.
4. Loot Council
The loot council is made up of the officers and some veteran members. Our aim is to gear our members to allow us to best progress upcoming encounters. However we also try to reward players for their effort, and give loot out to those who deserve it wherever possible. Some info As a general rule, loot is awarded when it drops, although there are no rules against deciding before hand. Because loot decisions are often made on the go, people have to accept, that from time to time, loots are not given to the best candidate. Hopefully the guys on the loot council will learn from the mistakes and not repeat similar mistakes. The only way the whole system will work is if people act maturely and respect the decisions the council make, whether they ultimatley agree with them or not.
Loot is currently being awarded based on the following (as much as possible):
* Attendances * Player ability * Level of upgrade * Class suitability * Number of recent loots * Overall contribution to the guild * Consumable usage
How do I get loot?! The current procedure is.
* Master looter announces which loot we are awarding. * Each player who would like that item, pastes their current item/s along with a short reason for getting the item (stats, set bonuses, etc) * The loot council discuss and award * The loot is awarded * 1 player is happy
The best way to get loot is to be active and good at playing your class!
Please observe and act in accordance with the following rules:-
1. Loot decisions will be made by the council and the reasons for loot reward will be given as and when the council deem appropriate. 2. Decisions are final. Any whining whatsoever will not be tolerated. If you would like to make constructive enquiries or criticism about decisions it will be done so through whispers only. 3. Think carefully about what you are 'rolling' on; if you're not 100% sure you should get the item then let someone else have it that can utilise it more. 4. "Saving" is not allowed; this is when you hold out on rolling to have more of a chance at other loot. This is unfair and the council will notice you doing it. 5. The linking of items at a lesser quality than items you already have is strictly not allowed. The swapping of equipment prior to looting will be noticed. Do not do this. 6. When linking loot, do not make comments about how you deserve the loot, but you are welcome to explain why you would benefit from it. 7. When linking loot, comments such as "please!" or smiley faces will simply be frowned upon. 8. If you feel that your council members are not representing you within the loot council, or you feel constructive enquires or criticism is not being dealt with by them, you may take it to a Guild Officer.
5. What we expect of each other
- Full consumable use. - PvE dual spec if possible - Learn about the encounters. Know what to expect in advance. - Accurate signups and punctuality.
Gear related. - At least 1 profession that can boost your pve performance. Skilled to a suitable level. (Alch/BS/Enchanting/Eng/Inscription/JC/LW/Tailoring) - Any 2nd profession skilled. If you don't have a 2nd prof, you'll be expected to take one of the above as your 2nd prof. - Best quality gems possible as a minimum. - Best enchants available. - A sound understanding of what gear upgrades are available.
TeamSpeak 3.0.x Build
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IP: ts3.teamliquid.net Port: 9988 For channel and password, check the guild forum post or ask a member in-game.
Very interested. The major problem right now I feel is that there's no one willing to take on the leader roll. Hopefully if the interest is high enough there'll be a suitable one!
For now i think i'll be playing in the US <TL> guild, but if there's a leader emerging for the EU initiative, i might be up for that instead.
Actually - one thing might not have to rule out the other - with rated battlegrounds being released - who'd be up for a *push for rank 1 attempt* style guild doing mainly rated BGs? I could see myself investing some extra time getting it done and then leading at least one of the groups!
I am very interested in PvP myself, We could do all of it, top raiding and top pvp. I've led raids in both but of course if the EU group grows large we can definately have many officers and decide where we want to focus.
If this is actually going to happen I'd be very interested. As most of the TL guys are "serious" gamers I'm quite sure we have lots of talented players here. I myself raided in hardcore guilds since release until the end of BC, where i played a couple of weeks in Nihilum trying to get the old feeling back, but had ultimately already lost interest in the game. I am also up for an officer/raid leader positition if things work out and we get a good player pool on a decent server.
Tank here, and I'd be very interested in doing this, as a part of the guys leading the guild. I have always taken a hardcore approach to gaming and I won't settle for mediocre play. Alliance or Horde doesn't matter.
On November 12 2010 10:16 qoiN wrote: Very interested. The major problem right now I feel is that there's no one willing to take on the leader roll. Hopefully if the interest is high enough there'll be a suitable one!
Well, like 5 people or something could have shared control of the guild, and just not one GM I think it's better that way!
Anyways I'm up for this, starting again when Cata hits live I'll either go DK or my druid, sign me up!
I'd be very interested as well. How about adding some style-spice? I'd totally LOVE to make a TeamLiquid-Goblin only (they're freaks and insane just like us!) guild. Should be really doable with the new buff system.
Raided top tier and played arena at rival/low glad level.
On November 12 2010 21:09 Rawenkeke wrote: Well, like 5 people or something could have shared control of the guild, and just not one GM I think it's better that way!
Guild leader / manager isn't the issue, that's work which can be done by anyone or even a group of people.
The real issue is finding one dedicated long term raid leader. I've seen some guilds work with two or even three RLs, but most just have one, with good cause.
Since i don't really want to make another reroll i'm ready to move my main ( resto shaman ) to any EU server ( a pvp server would be better). Or if a guild is created and there is a real need for something specific can also reroll a specific class/spec.
(note that a goblin guild would be AWESOME, i'd totally go for that, it would lack severall class but hey, we are TL, a little handicap would not stop us)
On November 12 2010 21:09 Rawenkeke wrote: Well, like 5 people or something could have shared control of the guild, and just not one GM I think it's better that way!
Guild leader / manager isn't the issue, that's work which can be done by anyone or even a group of people.
The real issue is finding one dedicated long term raid leader. I've seen some guilds work with two or even three RLs, but most just have one, with good cause.
Why is that? As long as you have 2 or 3 able people, I think it's much better than having just one guy. While leadership is important to make people execute a certain strategy without doing stuff on their own, one person can not possibly always think of everything or not make mistakes/overlook stuff.. And what happens if the leader can't raid one day. Just blow the whole raid off? I think the "one raidleader system" is mostly due to lack of competent people to do the job.
Also, I don't like the idea of only playing Race X at all. Yea it may look funny on screenshots, but you miss certain classes and race buffs as well as not letting people play the race they like most. Imo the cons highly outweigh the pros ("style" is the only one I can think of really) in this case.
I stopped playing WoW after my Ulduar, mainly because of drama. I used to tank back then but if i can find the time i want to make a fresh start, only with team liquid, and roll as a DPS. Definitely intrested. Don't care about the server, preffer Horde this time around.
(Edit: Will dedicate. altho you have to understand i got a lot of school work, i won't be able to raid / pvp every evening.. ;] )
Limiting yourself to one race only would not be awesome at all. It would in fact, be absolutely retarded. If the goal is to make top 100 EU I can assure you we won't get there by imposing ridiculous limits on ourselves because "it's awesome." What would be awesome however, is to be one of the best guilds in the world.
I would be up for taking on a role of guild leader / raid leader as I believe my attitude towards raiding and skill is good to create a top European guild.
On November 12 2010 21:55 SolHeiM wrote: Limiting yourself to one race only would not be awesome at all. It would in fact, be absolutely retarded. If the goal is to make top 100 EU I can assure you we won't get there by imposing ridiculous limits on ourselves because "it's awesome." What would be awesome however, is to be one of the best guilds in the world.
I would be up for taking on a role of guild leader / raid leader as I believe my attitude towards raiding and skill is good to create a top European guild.
This guy says it. Wanna be a good guild? Lets not do anything redicilous.
PS. I hope a ''guild meeting'' won't be in-game. I don't play it atm and only plan on playing it when <Team Liquid> launches. I will only play for the glory of TL! So it would be nice if it could be a chat room
On November 12 2010 21:09 Rawenkeke wrote: Well, like 5 people or something could have shared control of the guild, and just not one GM I think it's better that way!
Guild leader / manager isn't the issue, that's work which can be done by anyone or even a group of people.
The real issue is finding one dedicated long term raid leader. I've seen some guilds work with two or even three RLs, but most just have one, with good cause.
Why is that? As long as you have 2 or 3 able people, I think it's much better than having just one guy. While leadership is important to make people execute a certain strategy without doing stuff on their own, one person can not possibly always think of everything or not make mistakes/overlook stuff.. And what happens if the leader can't raid one day. Just blow the whole raid off? I think the "one raidleader system" is mostly due to lack of competent people to do the job.
Multiple equally abled raid leaders would be perfect, of course. No disagreement there. The problem is finding them and having them work together.
My experience tells me that will only work in some rare cases. Having multiple raid leaders often only means disagreement on general raid issues and meanderings regarding the way the raid is lead. Also, successfully leading hardcore raids requires a certain type of personality that usually doesn't work well with others of its kind.
I disagree with one person not being able to think of everything. Sure, mistakes happen, but a single dedicated raid leader can do the job just fine. The amount of time and work required from that person is huge, though, and only few manage that. I did it for a year and vowed never to raid again, and I've seen only a handful of people doing it for years (but they lead incredibly successful raids during their time).
Many groups, even very successful ones (Top100/200) will rather go for the single leader for maximum success than for multiple ones for maximum security in case one of them gets sick/quits the game/gets hit by a truck. It usually pays off, despite the risk.
If my old friends and guildies aren't up for reforming in Cata I might as well give this a try, or depending activity just come with one character to chill with you and prehaps eventually turn more active.
I have a character on boths sides on different realms on current cap, though finishing leveling one of my VERY old 60-ish character to current cap and going with it depending on classes you have shouldn't be too hard, only time consuming.
The format I propose is one guild leader and one raid leader completely separate from each other. The guild leader is in charge of the guild as a whole and shouldn't have anything to do with leading a raid. With one or two officers under the raid leader, and under those, have all the class leaders.
Class leaders consult the raid leader and officers about what they think is best for their class for a given raid, and then the raid leader, officers and guild leader talk amongst themselves on what they think is best, and then the raid leader makes a decision based on that.
And when the raid leader has made a decision, everyone should shut the fuck up about it because he's in charge and if you disagree you can take it up with the raid leader in private after the raid, or after a wipe. Not on vent or in guild chat. People bickering during a raid is the worst thing you can have for morale and I have been in lots of guilds where raid leaders disagree and it kills not only my will to raid, but kills almost everyone's will to raid as well.
Oh and another thing, a raid leader calling people fucking retarded idiot monkeys ON VENT SO EVERYONE HEARS because they make mistakes is absolutely ridiculous as well.
Now I understand that being a little pussy doesn't solve problems, but being a total cunt doesn't solve them either. Being a cunt doesn't make people listen any better because it has force behind it.
a raid leader should obviously be able to tell people when they need to improve or change something without being a dick. He also needs to be someone people like and trust to make good decisions
On November 12 2010 22:24 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: a raid leader should obviously be able to tell people when they need to improve or change something without being a dick. He also needs to be someone people like and trust to make good decisions
Indeed. A raid leader should be in charge because that's what he does best, not because he gets off on having power and likes telling people what's what.
Of course he should be able to put someone on the spot and get them to justify their actions without making them feel horrible afterwards. Raid leaders need to understand they aren't immortal and that people make mistakes. I have been in multiple guilds where the raid leader acts like a total cunt when other people makes mistakes but shrugs his own off and if you call him out on it he either ignores or harangues you.
The key is to get him to understand he made a mistake and know that you have the power to remove him and at the same time get him to improve. Threatening someone doesn't work and doesn't give the rest of the people much faith in you as a leader because you give people the impression that you get high on power.
On November 12 2010 22:24 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: a raid leader should obviously be able to tell people when they need to improve or change something without being a dick. He also needs to be someone people like and trust to make good decisions
Indeed. A raid leader should be in charge because that's what he does best, not because he gets off on having power and likes telling people what's what.
Of course he should be able to put someone on the spot and get them to justify their actions without making them feel horrible afterwards. Raid leaders need to understand they aren't immortal and that people make mistakes. I have been in multiple guilds where the raid leader acts like a total cunt when other people makes mistakes but shrugs his own off and if you call him out on it he either ignores or harangues you.
The key is to get him to understand he made a mistake and know that you have the power to remove him and at the same time get him to improve. Threatening someone doesn't work and doesn't give the rest of the people much faith in you as a leader because you give people the impression that you get high on power.
Most important thing for me is that the Raid leader just makes sure everyone is in a (generally) good mood and doesn't go bat shit on people who do something wrong. Drama really sucks :{
I'm extremely interested in this initiative. Can and will play both factions actively, I wouldn't mind having to transfer or anything like that.
I just can't be bothered with PuGs and guilds where the top 5 carry the rest of the raid through content, I'm hoping TL will provide a better pool of players.
On November 13 2010 03:02 Yiska wrote: Just tossing this in here. The European e-sports community will mostly settle on Haomarush Horde.
how do you know this? not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read some more info about who's going to play there and such. A high skilled server is great, an overly crowded one isn't though. From what I read so far, people wanna do this either the right way or not at all. So we should update this thread with a list of interested players, a poll on alliance/horde as well as probable classes so we don't end up with 10 casters and no heal/tank. I would say that we need AT LEAST 30 players before initiating anything seriously, better 40. Recruiting after the addon will be a little easier than usual I pressume with lots of people starting to play again with their old guilds disbanded months or years ago, but it still takes a lot of time and effort to find really good players.
i was thinking about making my own 10 man guild in cataclysm
If this gets going, im intrested. but lets see how this wil workout for now. I play alliance on Kazzak at the moment a server swap i could handle but i dont see myself playing horde atm
I raided vanilla everything up to Kelthuzad 40% i played in Vortex in tbc on kazzak i did up to sunwell muru i think we did first reversed twins in europe and wotlk i stoped playing when ulduar came out just wanted to say im a pretty experienced raider ^_^;
i hope this gets going we cant lose to Us~ TeamLiquid guild!
I should be interested, I was a top tier raider during WotLK being in such guilds as AVE and Realitysucks on Magtheridon. I will be playing Shadowpriest, DK or Shaman.
I'm very interested, mostly in PvP but i also enjoy PvE if it's done with good people. I think we should pick the biggest realm in a good battlegroup. I will probably be playing warrior for cata since i have played mage for pretty much the entire history of the game i want something new.
i'll have to start a new toon for the new realm, wanted to roll a goblin anyways.....
I am currently in Ten of Dragonblight, ranked no 1 or 2 on our server during WotLK. I was guild master and raid leader for ArchAngel Sqaudron previously, we were ranked in the top 10 "10 man only" guilds in the EU before we disbanded due to myself and the rest of the guild leadership burning out on the game, I joined Ten so that i could just raid and not have to worry about other stuff lol. Plus no one cared about 10man anymore.... they all wanted the shiny ICC25 hc gear....
I've always found that having 2 raid leaders is optimal, that way it doesn't fall on one guys shoulders to always be there for raids.
On November 13 2010 03:02 Yiska wrote: Just tossing this in here. The European e-sports community will mostly settle on Haomarush Horde.
how do you know this? not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read some more info about who's going to play there and such. A high skilled server is great, an overly crowded one isn't though. From what I read so far, people wanna do this either the right way or not at all. So we should update this thread with a list of interested players, a poll on alliance/horde as well as probable classes so we don't end up with 10 casters and no heal/tank. I would say that we need AT LEAST 30 players before initiating anything seriously, better 40. Recruiting after the addon will be a little easier than usual I pressume with lots of people starting to play again with their old guilds disbanded months or years ago, but it still takes a lot of time and effort to find really good players.
Just to avoid confusion: I was referring to the sponsored Arena players such as Team Dignitas & SK as well as some pretty decent other players. Currently they reside in <hydramist>. I know this because I'm editor in chief for the blog on that community site. We will soon be moving to sixjaxgaming though.
On November 13 2010 03:02 Yiska wrote: Just tossing this in here. The European e-sports community will mostly settle on Haomarush Horde.
how do you know this? not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read some more info about who's going to play there and such. A high skilled server is great, an overly crowded one isn't though. From what I read so far, people wanna do this either the right way or not at all. So we should update this thread with a list of interested players, a poll on alliance/horde as well as probable classes so we don't end up with 10 casters and no heal/tank. I would say that we need AT LEAST 30 players before initiating anything seriously, better 40. Recruiting after the addon will be a little easier than usual I pressume with lots of people starting to play again with their old guilds disbanded months or years ago, but it still takes a lot of time and effort to find really good players.
Just to avoid confusion: I was referring to the sponsored Arena players such as Team Dignitas & SK as well as some pretty decent other players. Currently they reside in <hydramist>. I know this because I'm editor in chief for the blog on that community site. We will soon be moving to sixjaxgaming though.
Stormscale used to be the center for esports, did that change in wotlk ?
On November 13 2010 03:02 Yiska wrote: Just tossing this in here. The European e-sports community will mostly settle on Haomarush Horde.
how do you know this? not that I don't believe you, I'd just like to read some more info about who's going to play there and such. A high skilled server is great, an overly crowded one isn't though. From what I read so far, people wanna do this either the right way or not at all. So we should update this thread with a list of interested players, a poll on alliance/horde as well as probable classes so we don't end up with 10 casters and no heal/tank. I would say that we need AT LEAST 30 players before initiating anything seriously, better 40. Recruiting after the addon will be a little easier than usual I pressume with lots of people starting to play again with their old guilds disbanded months or years ago, but it still takes a lot of time and effort to find really good players.
Just to avoid confusion: I was referring to the sponsored Arena players such as Team Dignitas & SK as well as some pretty decent other players. Currently they reside in <hydramist>. I know this because I'm editor in chief for the blog on that community site. We will soon be moving to sixjaxgaming though.
Stormscale used to be the center for esports, did that change in wotlk ?
It changed very recently. The problem is that Stormscale has so many people who once seriously PvP'd but have now settled in PvE. The server is overrun and its stability is horrible. Creating a level 1 alt and running to durotar should clue one in. Doing pugs without being ninja'd on is close to impossible as well. Haomarush had some talent while having a low population and being on an already competitive battlegroup.
I'm very interested certainly. The problem is that I'm going to have to figure out if I want to raid "hardcore" again or not. I've quit WoW because it became too boring, but with all that much new content it all sounds very interesting.
I'd also reroll completely, start as a Hunter from Level 1 (goblin ofc. since we'll be HORDE!!!!), so I hope that's not going to be a problem.
Thinking of playing agian. Ofc horde side!!!! Thinking roling gobling warrior(if they can chose that class ) or shaman/priest. So think u can count me in.Only if its the horde side ofc.
If this goes ahead, i'd be interested. I can play any class - was feral druid in wotlk, officer of Perfectly Sane (now Envy), also played for a few weeks in Method before SC2 came out.
I'm very interested. I've been thinking about getting back into the WoW-grind of raiding and arenas, and I don't want to do it in a small way. A guild consisting of "a different breed of gamers" as someone wrote in the US thread would be my cup of tea.
I would be interested in it too even if I don't have a clear schedule available for raiding I could always help for reagents or crafts (my work schedule varies from week to week)
I would be playing a chaman (resto/elem)
EDIT: seeing the wurrent state of the poll I could faction change & transfer a character
I also have a paladin tank, a mage and a priest at 80 (alliance ^^)
On November 15 2010 02:35 SPYTE wrote: The EU and US chapters should use the same ventrilo server so we can both discuss strategies for the bosses and such in cata :D
No. I wouldn't mind having access to both, but having the same ventrilo server isn't an option because of ping issues.
I'd be up for this, I played pretty hardcore in vanilla & TBC (world top10 kills, top5 arena spots on cyclone BG etc) and it's now starting to itch again after a long break
faction doesn't really matter for me as I'll most likely just roll a new char anyway haomarush would be nice though for server, I want competition and lots of good pvp'ers
will keep my eye on this thread, hopefully this works out
On November 15 2010 02:35 SPYTE wrote: The EU and US chapters should use the same ventrilo server so we can both discuss strategies for the bosses and such in cata :D
No. I wouldn't mind having access to both, but having the same ventrilo server isn't an option because of ping issues.
well, are people thinking of using the team liquid ventrilo?
On November 15 2010 02:35 SPYTE wrote: The EU and US chapters should use the same ventrilo server so we can both discuss strategies for the bosses and such in cata :D
No. I wouldn't mind having access to both, but having the same ventrilo server isn't an option because of ping issues.
well, are people thinking of using the team liquid ventrilo?
I don't know, but if this gets going and we get a solid 30-40 man group set up I'd want to purchase a separate ventrilo server.
This sounds very interesting since ive been thinking about getting back to wow for about 4 years now, but never knew anyone that actually plays. I will most likely reroll a character though, anyone else thinking about rerolling? If so, maybe we could do that recruit-a-friend thing and get x3 boost? If anyone is interested, i will adapt to your playing schedule, be it hardcore or casual. Peace and love~ Edit: i can buy a copy if someone gets hooked on that recruit-a-friend thing
Sounds great, I would be up for playing WoW again.
Last harcore raiding was going from MC to Naxx back at level 60. I took a more casual aproach to raiding in TBC and WotLK, mainly because of studying and working at odd hours which made a regular raid attendence impossible. That job is a thing of the past though and I'd be more than happy to step up again and help build a good raiding/guild environment. While PvP was never my main focus, I really enjoyed premade on premade BGs back in the days though and I am looking forward to it again.
Ye I think premade BGs are going to be alot of fun :D. Can't make up my mind though I like healing in Pvp alot and thats what ive been doing while ive been pvping but i've never really enjoyed healing in pve, so I dont know which class to choose yet :<
Depending on how goes my current apply in a French Guild, I might be interested to join, we'll see. I can offer a mage, a healer shaman, or a DD/Tank DK (Shadowmourne etc). We'll see in the coming weeks...
The only things I ask for : 1) no kids (or at least not bitching every time) 2) CAN TAKE CRITICISM without arguing. 3) a few, efficient evenings of raid (2/3 per week) should be more than enough with good players to clean everything and work on encounters efficiently with some thinking in between (except maybe a few weeks for progression) If we need 5 nights to fix some individual errors, there's a problem with the players.
I have a history of being in top guilds where everyone can take care of themselves and improve without being directed, thus only needing to ask what went wrong after a wipe brought answers not silence.
You need 25 sensible players to make a successful (I mean, top) raid. Not just the leader and/or 2/3
I'm intrested ofc zenner/dk belf ftw raided top at60's kinda quited 4months ago or so would be very intrested to step forth again in end game raiding.(casual pvp doesn't cut it)! I allways try to keep up a good attitude never afraid to take on a challenge and desperate to learn!
For more details PM char name: zenner char code: 965
Interesting idea guys. I just returned to WoW after 1 year break and I'm currently gearing up my mage for leveling in Cata. I'm on Alliance@Zenedar and it'd be awesome to join TL guild but there is just no way I'm gonna pay for server/race switch of all my alts and moving just one char is simply not an option for me since all my toons support my main in one way or another. Too bad majority of people here wants to play Horde But hey, maybe I'll change my mind. I'll watch closely this topic and respond if anything changes and you guys make final decisions. Good luck!
Would be good to list the credentials of leaders to see if this could be a serious top end guild. At the end of the day, it comes down the ability of officers and the core raiding group.
Voted other because I won't change server again. Used to play on Shattered hand, did a PAID transfer to Bladefist and that's where I'm staying. If the TL guild would start there though, I'd be so in on that.
Horde, Holy Priest, definitely most interested in PvE.
PS for anyone wondering: Bladefist is a medium population PvP server.
On November 15 2010 22:33 theSAiNT wrote: Looks interesting.
Would be good to list the credentials of leaders to see if this could be a serious top end guild. At the end of the day, it comes down the ability of officers and the core raiding group.
I agree. Now that we have seen that the interest level is high enough to start serious dicussions, we need to know who we can count on to join the guild 100% if it will be created (regardless of server and faction, although it looks likely that we will be horde on a pvp server) so we can start planning and decide on classes and leader positions.
my wow career: I played since the korean beta, raided in Tia'ra/Orcish Empire which later became Sinwori and much later Cause we can, and as already mentioned a couple weeks in Nihilum (now Ensidia)
All my guilds were among the top100 world during the time I played there, mostly much higher (like top10-20, and we got a world horde first on Nefarian as well). I quit the game at the end of ulduar and played for 2 months or so this summer, but without a guild, which means the only bosses that ever existed in the game I've never encountered are Algalon, Sindragosa and the Lich King, seen and killed everything else since release. I was never the raid leader, but i lead hundrets of random raids and a couple of guild farm raids, also I got 4 chars at 80 and 2 at 70, all of which raided actively, so I would consider my knowledge in tanking, healing and DPSing as pretty extensive.
I'd be interested in this. Started playing WoW about summer last year, was in the best Guild on the Server until it disbanded. Quit the game about half a year ago. Raid experience includes all of WotLK hardmodes up to Lich King HC 25. Played mostly a healing priest but if this works out id prefer to reroll as another class, preferably shaman.
Quick note; I'm being listed as "interested" in the OP, but I neither play WoW (anymore) nor do I plan on returning with Cataclysm. I just got involved in a little discussion about leading raids in this thread, nothing more .
Since people have been asking about the current officers of the guild I've decided to write up a bit of my history as well as what I've heard from the one other player interested in an officer position in the guild.
Absalom :
Played since US beta. Realm first Ragnaros, Nefarian and C'thun @ 60. Stopped hardcore raiding in TBC and went for arenas, Top rated boomkin in Europe in season 2, Played with Runeh and others on Vek'nilash and Stormscale. In Wotlk I formed a casual guild where I lead raids in ICC, Never went very far with the guild groups since I mainly had low skilled and undedicated players under my command.
SolHeiM: Had led numerous raids in Wotlk with his guild, Has main tanked a lot and led pug groups.
Mind you we are looking for more officers, so if you think you have the dedication and experience needed please PM me.
I used to play in Celebrity in TBC and got world 9th on Illidan or something like that, though I was just a player then. We were the best guild on the realm for quite some time until it disbanded because players got bored of farming Black Temple over and over again.
I led a guild that I initially wanted to be a hardcore guild which turned into a casual bring-all-your-friends guild and because me and the other two officers didn't see eye to eye I applied to a guild I used to play in during late TBC who had turned Alliance. They were a top a top alliance guild for a short while in WoTLK but got bored of playing in the early days as the content available was shit. I have no idea what happened to them.
I used to be a top Arena player in 2v2 and 3v3 in TBC, got to rank 1 in 3v3 in my battlegroup on numerous occasions. Never got a special gladiator title though, as my two IRL friends stole that from me. Bastards!
I quit WoW mid-ICC (lk-hero progress) because of sc2 but I intend to start again with cata.
Currently I am on a german server and Alliance, which kinda sucks. Which means that I'd like to transfer to EU (and Horde).
The problem is, I am kinda progress oriented, so I wouldn't like to be in a guild that sucks.
I tanked every encounter in wotlk with my dk, got 2000-somewhat rating with my shaman (restoration) and I played rogue through tbc (not that succesful tho, I did not manage to clear sunwell).
I'm starting a new character when Cataclysm pops, and would definitely be interested. Been raiding since Vanilla-WoW, and would love to take on a raiding-non-officer-role : ) Alliance/Horde/Server doesn't matter.
Sign me up!
EDIT: Even if I don't get an instant role as a raider due to chill leveling or such, I would still love to be a part of the guild. TL fighting!
Hopefully this will work out, I already started leveling and currently level 10. Hopefully OP won't change his mind about the server, Haomarush Horde. If anyone is interested in the leveling journey and can't wait for official news, pm me.
Hey all, 5 years and going playing WoW on an off. Never played hardcore pve because i never cared much for raiding 5-6 nights a week (too many people making too many mistakes which takes up time, fuck that). Being in a good guild with people who can actually think and play individually would be completely awesome since there wouldn't be a need for more than 3 raid days a week. I've went over 4 level 80 chars and am now playing a mage at 80, definitely interested to transfer to the TL guild once cata hits.
Have you guys set up a guild on Haomarush already?
On November 16 2010 16:58 Trizz wrote: Hopefully this will work out, I already started leveling and currently level 10. Hopefully OP won't change his mind about the server, Haomarush Horde. If anyone is interested in the leveling journey and can't wait for official news, pm me.
On November 16 2010 17:34 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: what's the server like population wise? Any other guilds there worth mentioning?
According to Yiska, Haomarush Horde is THE realm to go for. And tbh, I was lvling 5 in the morning, and there were a ton of people in orgrimmar.
he was referring to pvp, which I don't care for much. I was more curious about the pve situation.
It seems like a decent server, basically 3 Guilds that have killed Lich King heroic, 2 of them on horde side. Apathy, one of the horde guilds, was World 69 for Ulduar as well.
MY last information is that you can convert your char from ally to horde and vice versa, so no matter what side or server is chosen you will be able to play your priest.
I think im intersted, too, but im not quite sure yet if im up for killing onyxia again
I may be interested. I've played since launch, hardcore back then, World 5~6th Kel`thuzad. Chilled from then on as everyone dispersed to the likes of Inner Sanctum, Nihilum, Forte etc.
Few questions:
# How many days raiding? # Would anyone be up for a 5 man instance grind to get 80 before launch, this is no problem for me as long as everyone is focused. I don't mind tanking or DPS. (Warrior) # How is leadership going to be structured? I've been a guild leader in the past and know first hand the responsibilities it brings. # I'm assuming that the goal of everyone in the guild is play at their best level during progress? Playing with slacking/lazy people is not my idea of fun. # We got a vent or anything similar set up/planned?
Definitely sounds like this could be awesome, hope it pans out.
On November 16 2010 23:38 Ygz wrote: I may be interested. I've played since launch, hardcore back then, World 5~6th Kel`thuzad. Chilled from then on as everyone dispersed to the likes of Inner Sanctum, Nihilum, Forte etc.
Few questions:
# How many days raiding? # Would anyone be up for a 5 man instance grind to get 80 before launch, this is no problem for me as long as everyone is focused. I don't mind tanking or DPS. (Warrior) # How is leadership going to be structured? I've been a guild leader in the past and know first hand the responsibilities it brings. # I'm assuming that the goal of everyone in the guild is play at their best level during progress? Playing with slacking/lazy people is not my idea of fun. # We got a vent or anything similar set up/planned?
Definitely sounds like this could be awesome, hope it pans out.
Since we haven't talked that much yet, I don't know what the other two are thinking, but here's my take on it.
Since I want a top guild, 5 days a week or until content is cleared between 1900 and 2300. Sunday-Thursday. Fridays and Saturdays for social life. Personally I would like to raid 20 hours a week every day of the week, but that's simply not reasonable and I think even I'd get sick of it after just one week, as I can barely manage 8 consecutive hours of work on my own website.
Since I haven't played the beta, I would not be up for a 5 man leveling group. I'll be racing to 85 and since I don't know the instances I won't be able to perform at my best ability there.
My view of leadership is Guild Leader, Raid Leader, Officers, Class Leaders. Raid leader makes decisions during raids, and his word is final, that's it. The raid leaders role is to lead the raid, and while people can make inquiries and consult the raid leader on what they think is best, at the end of the day he is the one who makes the decisions. If you have a problem with that you take it up with the raid leader or possibly the guild leader, if talking to the raid leader is like talking to a wall.
The guild leader, raid leader and officers responsibility is to make sure we have competent players, and the guild leader is in charge of choosing the most competent raid leader.
I'm expecting people to level hardcore to 85, reaching level 85 on December 11th at the latest, before official raiding hours which I assume would be around 1900 in game time.
There is no ventrilo server that I know of yet, but there is still plenty of time left until December 7th.
On November 16 2010 23:38 Ygz wrote: I may be interested. I've played since launch, hardcore back then, World 5~6th Kel`thuzad. Chilled from then on as everyone dispersed to the likes of Inner Sanctum, Nihilum, Forte etc.
Few questions:
# How many days raiding? # Would anyone be up for a 5 man instance grind to get 80 before launch, this is no problem for me as long as everyone is focused. I don't mind tanking or DPS. (Warrior) # How is leadership going to be structured? I've been a guild leader in the past and know first hand the responsibilities it brings. # I'm assuming that the goal of everyone in the guild is play at their best level during progress? Playing with slacking/lazy people is not my idea of fun. # We got a vent or anything similar set up/planned?
Definitely sounds like this could be awesome, hope it pans out.
Since we haven't talked that much yet, I don't know what the other two are thinking, but here's my take on it.
Since I want a top guild, 5 days a week or until content is cleared between 1900 and 2300. Sunday-Thursday. Fridays and Saturdays for social life. Personally I would like to raid 20 hours a week every day of the week, but that's simply not reasonable and I think even I'd get sick of it after just one week, as I can barely manage 8 consecutive hours of work on my own website.
Since I haven't played the beta, I would not be up for a 5 man leveling group. I'll be racing to 85 and since I don't know the instances I won't be able to perform at my best ability there.
My view of leadership is Guild Leader, Raid Leader, Officers, Class Leaders. Raid leader makes decisions during raids, and his word is final, that's it. The raid leaders role is to lead the raid, and while people can make inquiries and consult the raid leader on what they think is best, at the end of the day he is the one who makes the decisions. If you have a problem with that you take it up with the raid leader or possibly the guild leader, if talking to the raid leader is like talking to a wall.
The guild leader, raid leader and officers responsibility is to make sure we have competent players, and the guild leader is in charge of choosing the most competent raid leader.
I'm expecting people to level hardcore to 85, reaching level 85 on December 11th at the latest, before official raiding hours which I assume would be around 1900 in game time.
There is no ventrilo server that I know of yet, but there is still plenty of time left until December 7th.
Woah, 5 raiding nights a week and leveling to 85 within 4 days with attending a raid that evening? I would like to see the general consensus on this, because it sounds ludicrous to me.
On November 17 2010 00:34 Dooba wrote: Woah, 5 raiding nights a week and leveling to 85 within 4 days with attending a raid that evening? I would like to see the general consensus on this, because it sounds ludicrous to me.
Plenty of guilds who aren't mega hardcore like Ensidia and Paragon raid five nights a week, plus I said five nights a week until content is cleared, not that you have to be online during raid hours when there is nothing to clear.
I was hardcore leveling from 55-80 as a Death Knight in WoTLK and reached 80 after less than 3 days and attended a Naxx 10 man raid on the third day.
If people really want to be a top guild, you can't slack off because you don't feel like it. Four days of playing is not really unreasonable, as the hardcore levelers will stay up until they reach 85, which will probably take between 30 and 40 hours. Playing 10 hours a day for four days to be among the first people on the realm and in the world to take on the new content is not unreasonable at all.
Four days should be plenty of time for you to level from 80-85, without having to stay up all night and mess up your sleep schedules.
As I've said many times before, I don't want to play in a guild where you just play casually because you want to play with buddies from Team Liquid. I would like to employ the same standards for the WoW sections as the people running the SC2 team are.
I would be interessted in joining the Guild as long as it is horde. And I would prefer a 10 man raid, BUT still focused on progress. (troll - healshaman; willing to transfer to any server (horde-faction))
On November 16 2010 23:38 Ygz wrote: I may be interested. I've played since launch, hardcore back then, World 5~6th Kel`thuzad. Chilled from then on as everyone dispersed to the likes of Inner Sanctum, Nihilum, Forte etc.
Few questions:
# How many days raiding? # Would anyone be up for a 5 man instance grind to get 80 before launch, this is no problem for me as long as everyone is focused. I don't mind tanking or DPS. (Warrior) # How is leadership going to be structured? I've been a guild leader in the past and know first hand the responsibilities it brings. # I'm assuming that the goal of everyone in the guild is play at their best level during progress? Playing with slacking/lazy people is not my idea of fun. # We got a vent or anything similar set up/planned?
Definitely sounds like this could be awesome, hope it pans out.
Since we haven't talked that much yet, I don't know what the other two are thinking, but here's my take on it.
Since I want a top guild, 5 days a week or until content is cleared between 1900 and 2300. Sunday-Thursday. Fridays and Saturdays for social life. Personally I would like to raid 20 hours a week every day of the week, but that's simply not reasonable and I think even I'd get sick of it after just one week, as I can barely manage 8 consecutive hours of work on my own website.
Since I haven't played the beta, I would not be up for a 5 man leveling group. I'll be racing to 85 and since I don't know the instances I won't be able to perform at my best ability there.
My view of leadership is Guild Leader, Raid Leader, Officers, Class Leaders. Raid leader makes decisions during raids, and his word is final, that's it. The raid leaders role is to lead the raid, and while people can make inquiries and consult the raid leader on what they think is best, at the end of the day he is the one who makes the decisions. If you have a problem with that you take it up with the raid leader or possibly the guild leader, if talking to the raid leader is like talking to a wall.
The guild leader, raid leader and officers responsibility is to make sure we have competent players, and the guild leader is in charge of choosing the most competent raid leader.
I'm expecting people to level hardcore to 85, reaching level 85 on December 11th at the latest, before official raiding hours which I assume would be around 1900 in game time.
There is no ventrilo server that I know of yet, but there is still plenty of time left until December 7th.
This sounds fine.
I can see why some, may at first sight see the 5 days a week raid schedule and scream WTF! But do realise that when new content is released, all you want to do is play, alongside others who are equally focused and hungry to kill shit. Till at last all your team effort pays off and you all stand proud above the beast you worked so hard to conquer.
The nerd screams over vent when we downed C'thun for the first time, oh man, good times.
On November 16 2010 23:59 SolHeiM wrote: Since I haven't played the beta, I would not be up for a 5 man leveling group. I'll be racing to 85 and since I don't know the instances I won't be able to perform at my best ability there.
I think you misread my question. I was asking if anyone would like to level to 80, not 85, ergo starting fresh on the server of choice. Regarding levelling to 85, from what I've gathered, questing alongside instances is the quickest route.
Played a mage since vanilla. Almost full end game raiding experience. Top EU 200 guild during Ulduar but stopped raiding hardcore during TotGC. Could get back into it for Cataclysm.
On November 17 2010 00:34 Dooba wrote: Woah, 5 raiding nights a week and leveling to 85 within 4 days with attending a raid that evening? I would like to see the general consensus on this, because it sounds ludicrous to me.
4 days is not a fixed number where everyone HAS to be 85, just level to 85 as fast you can. Also we are aiming to have a raid core of more than 25 players, so you don't have to be there EVERY raid. But as was stated in the OP, we want to create a top guild. I don't care if we have casuals within our guild, as long as enough active raiders are there to fill the raid. Just don't expect to have a raid spot when you don't perform up to standards or have a low attendance rate.
As I need to buy a new version of WoW, is there anyone who would want to RAF level a char with me on haomarush horde? I would like something in return for it though
On November 17 2010 00:34 Dooba wrote: Woah, 5 raiding nights a week and leveling to 85 within 4 days with attending a raid that evening? I would like to see the general consensus on this, because it sounds ludicrous to me.
We might very well have different raid groups for different type of progession. It all depends on how many we are of course. We could have 1x hardcore raiding group for either 10 or 25 man and then another for a more casual approach. I won't have the time in my college schedule to raid 5 times per week and I don't expect everyone in the guild to have a hardcore approach, Team Liquid is a big community so we should be able to have something for everyone.
On the other hand, if you sign up for the hardcore progression and go under that raid leader I expect you to show up ready and willing for every raid.
Oh wow, what are the odds . I am Horde on Haomarush, and it's winning the poll atm. I am definately interested, but unsure, since I think some of my IRLs are migrating to some other server.
I'm up for it. I've raided casually and hardcore from vanilla. I just cancelled my account a while ago because the game has become too easy. I want to give this a go but I expect attendance and performance to be first priorities when handing out raid spots. I'd like to be a healer ^^
I would be up. My current guild is reducing its activity to weekends only, and if this guild delivers the level of progress dedication I am looking for, I would have no problem leaving there alltogether. I would roll anything thats needed. Also, you should add a poll which role people want to play, since 6 out of 10 classes can fulfill multiple roles.
Edit: PM me with more infos, what to roll et cetera.
On November 17 2010 00:34 Dooba wrote: Woah, 5 raiding nights a week and leveling to 85 within 4 days with attending a raid that evening? I would like to see the general consensus on this, because it sounds ludicrous to me.
4 days is not a fixed number where everyone HAS to be 85, just level to 85 as fast you can. Also we are aiming to have a raid core of more than 25 players, so you don't have to be there EVERY raid. But as was stated in the OP, we want to create a top guild. I don't care if we have casuals within our guild, as long as enough active raiders are there to fill the raid. Just don't expect to have a raid spot when you don't perform up to standards or have a low attendance rate.
Yeah, i get it now. While the leveling thingy isn't really an issue with me (i plan to level quickly anyway) the raiding might be. I guess i need to decide if im up for 5 days raiding on progress periods
I am starting to get really intrested in this as well
I have quite a lot of hardcore raiding experience and i was also an officer and a raidleader in 2 different top 200 World guilds since TBC.
I havent played a lot in Vannila and in TBC and WOTLK managed to grab a lot of realm firsts (on one of a new TBC launch realms so that might not be as impressive ) I stopped playing some time back in February i think shortly after killing LK normal without any buffs because my second guild died as well what can i say unstable realm is unstable >.>
This guild has a lot of potential and its easy to see the guys who are already assigned as officers know what theyre doing. But theres so many risks with starting a guild from absolute 0 in a short time with such a high aim to being one of the best guilds out there most importantly like some already have mentioned is not to have 5-10 people carrying the entire guild and dragging the more casual players along. Because this would be a huge commitment to a lot of people ( faction change + realm change is i believe about 30 euros thats quite a lot of money and time wasted down the drain if the guild doesnt work out as intended)
Also might be an idea to start on a realm with a free character migration available allthough a lot of the time the community and player base on such realms is weaker then on other realms so that might be an offset
So the poll questions are good but we would need to make sure that the majority i mean like 20 people ccan truly commit to raiding those 20 hours a week during the progress time (of course the raiding times will get reduced after we have killed off evrything) and thats not an easy task as most of us dont know eachother i assume
Another matter is a lot of people seem to just want to be in team liquid guild with casual gamestyle and it might be a good idea to let them have a separate guild so all TL members can just hang out and have fun. Some might not like it because of the guild levels and all that new stuff but i think the Harcore players need time to get to know eachother and have their own theme to get used to stuff it would be and thats more important to me then having the minor convieniences of guild levels
And some other minor stuff like how would we look in the future Ventrilo seems to get fixed but what about a guildsite would we have any connections with this site and how would new applications be handled would evryone need to be familiar with Starcraft and Team liquid to join just because were carrying their name and some other minor stuff.
Some update to my situation. It's still unclear if we manage to reform with some old friends etc. but it's also possibility that if only few of us are up we might transfer or start new chars over to come play with you if you don't mind.
If you want to know more about our raid experiences (varies by person) or other things etc. send a pm or mention it here. I'm not sure if I/we can/will go all hardcore, but increasing the potential playerpool should be good.
I voted undecided on poll, but will most likely transfer my main DK (I mainly tanked for our guild) or play another up from ground seeing as the poll says there's least of them at the moment. Have to probably re-learn some stuff since I played Frost on both Tanking and DPS.
However don't count on me/us to be certain as things might still change.
Also, how's the guild forming? You have some players on Haomarush already? If you have time can you update classes etc. after names on OP?
If a lot of TLers transfer there, maybe they could boost those of us who don't want to pay to transfer characters (I only have one lvl 80 so I wouldn't move it anyway) so we could get to 85 decently quickly? (I work 8 hours a day, it's obviously going to take a long time to get an alt to 85).
I could see myself starting a new character, maybe a death knight so I wouldn't have to level as much, if I could count on getting boosts in dungeons on my way to 85.
Please PM me if you are delayed in joining the guild until a patch / install / transfer. Please make a lvl 1 character and join if you have yet to transfer so we can get an accurate player count.
would be interested too played since beta, did rank13 and cthun realm first in classic, illidan first / muru pre nerf etc in tbc with my orc warri, wotlk i tried dk but it got boring pretty fast after 3d/malygos achievements there was already nothing to do and then i quit before ulduar came just reactivated like a week ago, gotta play warri :D maybe i'll just make a new one instead of transfer, nothing to do atm anyways ^^
@infinity: u mean eu-destromath cwc ? that was actually my last raiding guild
Will there be social spots availible for people who play casual but want nice people to be talking with while playing?
I did put WoW raiding on hold this summer for the first time ever and ain't sure I want to be raiding again but I will play Cataclysm and just teaming up with nice people are always fun.
On November 20 2010 02:44 indiehjaerta wrote: Will there be social spots availible for people who play casual but want nice people to be talking with while playing?
I did put WoW raiding on hold this summer for the first time ever and ain't sure I want to be raiding again but I will play Cataclysm and just teaming up with nice people are always fun.
I haven't talked about this to the others but to me, non-raiding members are no problem, as long as a) we have enough raiding members and b) the casuals don't expect a spot in the raid
On November 20 2010 02:44 indiehjaerta wrote: Will there be social spots availible for people who play casual but want nice people to be talking with while playing?
I did put WoW raiding on hold this summer for the first time ever and ain't sure I want to be raiding again but I will play Cataclysm and just teaming up with nice people are always fun.
I would like to play, although just casually if that is ok by the guild. Recently moved and found my copy of wow/tbc in one of the boxes and have been thinking about playing ever since just to chill out.
I already have a char in the guild (IntoxiKate), but I'd want to let you guys know I'm going to make a troll druid when cata is released, and that will be my main character. I'll most likely go feral to tank instances at the lower lvls and then switch to pure feral DPS (at least for PvP, if I still like tanking I'll probably keep that spec for PvE).
I'll play casual, so no hardcore raiding for me (maybe I'll fill the odd spot if we're missing a DPS and I have time). Would love to do battlegrounds together! Flagrunning is <3
Patch comming tomorrow I think and it contains the world changes and also enables the new class/race combos (not goblin/worgen), so if you are going to make a new character thats not a goblin you can make it tomorrow.
Heh, went and transfered my old good priest toon that seems most intresting of all available in new talents. Guild seems to have 40 members atm, and now you got one old good holypriest for healing duty ^^.
I'll be resubbing tonight to take a look around the old world before the cataclysm. I wanted to make a dwarf shaman but the thought of playing with TLers is very tempting. Orc shaman would be very cool too :D
Not sure how I feel about the euro PVP scene being centered on this server though. It means a ton of assholes and a ton of trade spam.
On November 24 2010 04:05 sammler wrote: I'll be resubbing tonight to take a look around the old world before the cataclysm. I wanted to make a dwarf shaman but the thought of playing with TLers is very tempting. Orc shaman would be very cool too :D
Not sure how I feel about the euro PVP scene being centered on this server though. It means a ton of assholes and a ton of trade spam.
Brilliant sir, the world has been destroyed. I raped it.
Good day, Deathwing
- This is US server, so ;3 I forgot EU patches a day after, given they're at least eight hours ahead .__.
My mate(warri) and I would like to join also. He already wrote his application and Im doing it now. Have a lot of experience with mmorpgs(first was Anarchy Online back in 2002) and I also do play SC2 -a lot-. However, I never registred on this forum, even tho I read news here and watch streams. Dunno if my registration date is a problem..
If Im allowed to join, then Id like to create a mage, since there is only one atm.
On November 18 2010 17:43 Tobberoth wrote: If a lot of TLers transfer there, maybe they could boost those of us who don't want to pay to transfer characters (I only have one lvl 80 so I wouldn't move it anyway) so we could get to 85 decently quickly? (I work 8 hours a day, it's obviously going to take a long time to get an alt to 85).
I could see myself starting a new character, maybe a death knight so I wouldn't have to level as much, if I could count on getting boosts in dungeons on my way to 85.
I have priest that can do some boosting if needed, not sure about how effective it is in compare of normal LFG tooling or questin. Poke me ingame/irc for some
Also wondering about options for guild forums? Is there something in the move for doing this?
Hey guys this thread got me interested in WoW again so I made a new warrior in Haomarush! The name is Fruitdealer :D, gonna try to ask somebody for an invite when I get on.
On November 29 2010 02:18 Yuljan wrote: So are casuals allowed too? I just want to play around a bit and level a character didnt play much since burning crusade.
Casuals are allowed.
Also having good core of people who are waiting for raiding in Cataclysm, ofcourse more is welcome addition.
Anyone interested in doing this who doesn't currently have a WoW account?
I'd quite like to join in but levelling to 60 is a pain and i'd like to be able to do it through the Refer-a-Friend bonus'. 3x experience, summons and can grant levels to each other.
There is 10 hunters and 6 rogues in the guild atm, though I have no idea if the guys playing those characters are going for PVE/PVP/casual or if they are alt or main. Only 3 mages in the guild atm though ;D
I've only recently gotten into WoW, but if "casuals" are welcome, I'd be up for playing with you guys to try and learn the ropes of the higher end stuff.
I've been playing as a mage on Boulderfist, but am willing to reroll as anything on Haomarush. Perhaps a paladin, now they don't have to be nancy blood elves.
Hm, did the guild already start up\ was the server already decided to be Haomarush?If not I saw that stormscale is one of the top contenders, I play on stormscale horde together with a few other people (Some of them TL'ers! \o/ We even have Liquibet season winner 14 , stegosaur represent yo.) We are already in a guild planning on doing 10man content though. But would always be nice with more Teamliquiders on our server.
Stormscale has one of the, if not the definite best 'hardcore' pvp scene of all servers so nice for those of you who enjoy such a scene. Also horde has a pretty high population so there is always someone with something going on and its easier to find people for Pugs/get shit crafted etcetc. But there is no real definite superhardcore 25 man guild here at the moment so teamliquid can come here and rule and get server firsts and stuff yo!
I am long time lurker of TL, since like 2005. Got a few lvl 80s on Alonsus Horde. Raided alot in classic and BC, but only really did Arena in Wotlk which went really well.
I would join as a Mage since you seem to lack a few. My "main" was a Holy Paladin - Defiler on Alonsus did mostly 3v3 and 5v5.
Raided somewhat up until Ulduar 25 man on my Resto Druid, Maryse on Alonsus.
Would like to join you guys as well. I'm currently transferring my 80 feral (tank) druid to Haomarush. I'm not sure what I want to do when 85 hits, but it's likely I want to raid then. Will whisper somebody for an invite when my druid gets to Haomarush.
On November 30 2010 20:36 Earll wrote: Hm, did the guild already start up\ was the server already decided to be Haomarush?If not I saw that stormscale is one of the top contenders, I play on stormscale horde together with a few other people (Some of them TL'ers! \o/ We even have Liquibet season winner 14 , stegosaur represent yo.) We are already in a guild planning on doing 10man content though. But would always be nice with more Teamliquiders on our server.
Stormscale has one of the, if not the definite best 'hardcore' pvp scene of all servers so nice for those of you who enjoy such a scene. Also horde has a pretty high population so there is always someone with something going on and its easier to find people for Pugs/get shit crafted etcetc. But there is no real definite superhardcore 25 man guild here at the moment so teamliquid can come here and rule and get server firsts and stuff yo!
With Hydramist's transfer to Haomarush, I do fear for Stormscale's Cataclysm PvP status plummeting.
P.S. What happened to Insert Coin, Status, Nam? They all disbanded?
So I have been keeping my eye on this thread for a while but havent responded to it yet mostly just been waiting to let Cata get closer but here I am now!
Me and a group of friends are all going to do a server transfere before this Cata hits in about a week and well I belive some of us would make a real asset to a TL guild. We have had talks about forming our own 10 man thing but frankly Í´d rather play 25 man since even if its harder to make a group of 25 ppl work together that is cind of what makes onlinegaming fun, a community!
I´m coming from a HC inviorment where I played and was a raidleader/guild leader making it up till 25 man ToTC, but took a break after doing Ice crown in a more pug inviorment (it was just not fun enough to commit to doing HC) but now I´m hoping for alot of fun come Cata.
Anyway, mostly askign here to se how the initiative has gone so far? Has there been any "meeting" of the ppl who are interested in forming this Guild? As I have understood it the guild has been formed, are there clear leaders in the guild atm?
Anyway if you would like a group of ppl with some real expirience in raiding and PvP(some of us will focus on PvP in Cata) I´d love to hear from one of the "leaders" of this guild / will try to contact one of you on irc when I get home from work.
/// Stabbe Taruen paladin Tank!
oh yeah what classes do I have ? Well I have a lvl 80 of everyclass except Priest but looking to play my Paladin tank or Boomkin/resto druid. If I would endup in a leader position along the way I prefer to heal since its easier to keep a good view of the inteir raid!
On November 30 2010 20:36 Earll wrote: Hm, did the guild already start up\ was the server already decided to be Haomarush?If not I saw that stormscale is one of the top contenders, I play on stormscale horde together with a few other people (Some of them TL'ers! \o/ We even have Liquibet season winner 14 , stegosaur represent yo.) We are already in a guild planning on doing 10man content though. But would always be nice with more Teamliquiders on our server.
Stormscale has one of the, if not the definite best 'hardcore' pvp scene of all servers so nice for those of you who enjoy such a scene. Also horde has a pretty high population so there is always someone with something going on and its easier to find people for Pugs/get shit crafted etcetc. But there is no real definite superhardcore 25 man guild here at the moment so teamliquid can come here and rule and get server firsts and stuff yo!
Whats the guilds name ? Im on SS will play again when catac comes.
And after doing some head count, it seems we are in bit need of few tanks and lots of dps. Basicly all classes are welcome, but casters are needed. So mages and locks, barge in. Healer area is nicely filled(can fit few raiders more).
Very interested in this! One tiny problem for me though: I'll be in Berlin for another week and I only have a netbook with me.. I'll also be starting from scratch, but I haven't decided which class to roll yet..
On December 05 2010 03:31 capri wrote: Very interested in this! One tiny problem for me though: I'll be in Berlin for another week and I only have a netbook with me.. I'll also be starting from scratch, but I haven't decided which class to roll yet..
Hi guys. Have you decided on raid times yet? I'm pretty pumped about moving my brother's mage over and levelling/gearing, but I finish at 8 GMT at least a few times a week.
Hey, i've recently decided to start playing WoW again with cata, i'm interested in raiding and have been playing WoW for about 3-4 years. I'm gonna start fresh on your server and plan to level fast(since holiday is coming i'll be on 8-12 hours/day). If you decide to add me :gstorm (ud warlock).
i have a mage, warrior and paladin ( all horde ), level 80.... i have hunter level 70
i was hardcore player back in wow classic... since then, the game has been going down in interest ( i still played TBC and WOTLK on a casual basis )...
i like the idea in the OP... if you guys are interested in becoming serious, i might return to raiding again... but i can see there are tons of players joining in, so probably no room for me in raids... :S
ps: my former guild was mostly from iceland on server Trollbane, in Europe...
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mage or warrior? ( tbh, i dont like tanking i like dps on warrior )
On December 06 2010 12:56 absalom86 wrote: Raid times will be 20:00 - 23:30 on Wednesday and Thursday and then we'll have an extended raid on Sunday from 15:00+
You are expected to be ready on time and preferably be online half an hour before the raid is supposed to start.
On December 06 2010 20:31 Devanthar wrote: im thinking about a character transfer.. never played on an english server/client though
I'm switching between English, German, Spanish and French clients, depending on which one I feel like.. If you wanna improve your english, then go for the english client otherwise it's fine playing a german client on an english server =)
I would love to join as well, although I won't be able to be active enough to raid in the near future, maybe I will have the time in a few months.
I started playing WoW from release in 2005 and been a bit on and off. Raided MC/Zul'gurub/Ahnqiraj (20) and some BWL, nothing in BC and did Naxxramas and Malygos in Wotlk. Tried to start a few characters again, but it's quite boring on your own. So when I saw this thread I thought it would be a great time to try to play again abit. By coincidence I rolled on this server (Haomarush) when the realm was brand new with a great guild back then and my lvl 80 warlock never moved.
My ingame name is Tauranu, tauren priest or my warlock called Savan
SC2 launch went so smooth, this is a fucking joke compered to that. Was there anyone that attended the WOTLK realease? Was there a lot delay to login there as well? If i remember right TBC went as smooth as butter
"If i remember right TBC went as smooth as butter" It was horrible. The whole world crashed over and over again. Then I managed to get into a dungeon and it was fine from then on.
On December 07 2010 08:43 Dyme wrote: "If i remember right TBC went as smooth as butter" It was horrible. The whole world crashed over and over again. Then I managed to get into a dungeon and it was fine from then on.
yeah TBC was horrible but I don't remeber anything out of the ordinary for wotlk, but Wotlk content was "released" sooner than expected 22:00 CET instead of midnight so it might have smoothed out the connexion of the user instead of the Midnught gogogo 300k connexions hitting instantly the login server.
Bah dont know what to do, just start on one of the new races or move my pve mage or pvp druid ove to this realm to join the guild. Anyone reccomend anything?
On December 10 2010 00:44 Wassow wrote: Bah dont know what to do, just start on one of the new races or move my pve mage or pvp druid ove to this realm to join the guild. Anyone reccomend anything?
Why pve mage and pvp druid? You dont want to pvp with your mage?
I can only speak for my mage, which is leveling as frost, and say that frost is so good right now, its really fun. Frostbolts and ice lance are really hitting hard now against frozen targets, not to mention all the freezes a mage can dish out. I feel like top of the food chain in pvp as well. Of course this can change pretty quickly at 85 with gear.
Pve is same for all classes, as there is no hard rotation for anyone, only raid awareness.
So, I got to 85 yesterday and currently looking for a guild on my homeserver. If that doesn't work out I may be transferring and join you guys. With no big ambitions though, just a casual. Heal Pala Teisiphone on Lothar-EU currently.
On December 10 2010 00:44 Wassow wrote: Bah dont know what to do, just start on one of the new races or move my pve mage or pvp druid ove to this realm to join the guild. Anyone reccomend anything?
Why pve mage and pvp druid? You dont want to pvp with your mage?
I can only speak for my mage, which is leveling as frost, and say that frost is so good right now, its really fun. Frostbolts and ice lance are really hitting hard now against frozen targets, not to mention all the freezes a mage can dish out. I feel like top of the food chain in pvp as well. Of course this can change pretty quickly at 85 with gear.
Pve is same for all classes, as there is no hard rotation for anyone, only raid awareness.
I origionally played on my druid. but then I started to hate pvp so much I made a mage on a pve server to level 75 and quit. until now.
I've made myself a worgen at the moment too, quite enjoying it.
Would you accept players who are completely new to the game and don't have levels/gear/money but most importantly ANY knowledge? I just just just started out. I am gonna be rollin a warrior, but probably fury. So do you accept us noobs to look over us and help us get to know the game? I don't have any playing friends so this would be really great. I would have to change realms, but no biggie, since I only got to level 22, so it's not too late.
On December 11 2010 20:29 Order wrote: Would you accept players who are completely new to the game and don't have levels/gear/money but most importantly ANY knowledge? I just just just started out. I am gonna be rollin a warrior, but probably fury. So do you accept us noobs to look over us and help us get to know the game? I don't have any playing friends so this would be really great. I would have to change realms, but no biggie, since I only got to level 22, so it's not too late.
You would be welcome to join us, but I'd expect you to learn on your own and not expect too much help except minor things ( as in not demanding power leveling or training ).
We accept all types of players and our number one priority is friendliness and the community.
On December 11 2010 22:58 Dooba wrote: I will be starting my transfer today as well. Hopefully it will be finished in time for the raid tomorrow. Cya online!
Just being in the guild alone does not deem you eligible for raiding.
I have not played this game since TBC was released but with the updated zones and such i felt like giving it a try again(I was in the guild who realm first C'thun/KelThuzad on Ravencrest-EU pretbc). Don't know if i will do any raiding or such but i guess i can still get a invite to your awesome guild? Also don't know who to contact but if you could tell me that or just invite Skuren it would be awesome <3
Just to clarify: As of now, in order to be part of the raiding team, you will now have to submit a brief applicaiton in PM to me. The template is up on the Wowprogress site, here's the link: http://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu/haomarush/Team Liquid
We are in blackwing descent tonight. Azgalon down and we got Halfus to 20% before enrage timer yesterday. Need a bit more gear to crank our the dps on Halfus. Omnitron going down now.
Do you still need the classes posted in the thread? I have 1 80 DK and one 80 hunter and i would be psyched to transfer to haomrush and play with you guys as long as i have a spot in the guild<3.
On December 14 2010 06:23 Luddff wrote: Do you still need the classes posted in the thread? I have 1 80 DK and one 80 hunter and i would be psyched to transfer to haomrush and play with you guys as long as i have a spot in the guild<3.
On December 15 2010 17:18 Lyter wrote: Just picked up cata and would be interested in joining you guys, i have a 80 shaman if you need him, or i can reroll something fresh, any preferences?
You can view our latest recruitment status over here.
Congrats on the kill. Will we see any videos from the guild?
I can try to fraps every kill but its hard to remember to remove the failed video file and start recording again as we wipe quite a lot (I think we needed around 80-100 wipes on hulfrus until we killed him). But i will try to record todays kill and maybe omnitron (We got them to 33% yesterday). Another problem is that frapsing can cause 1-2 seconds of lag each 2 minute or something. It would not be hard if i were dps, but as a tank that needs to interupt a two seconds cast each 15 seconds, a lag would wipe the raid
I dont understand how you can afford so much time in wow AND sc2/bw. I bought wow on its launch day, and Im only 83 and still dont play that much sc2 either. Might have to do with exam period also.
So Im curious, is there a status in the guild named casual (note, casual does not mean bad/scrubs, but I think most here know that)? Then maybe the casuals could join up and create their own calender event now and then.
If TL still needs hunters I am willing to realm and faction transfer (will have to be next week when I get paid), 85 fairly well geared running heroics for gear. Running BM spec atm but can/will change if needed for raids.
On December 19 2010 01:38 KovuTalli wrote: If TL still needs hunters I am willing to realm and faction transfer (will have to be next week when I get paid), 85 fairly well geared running heroics for gear. Running BM spec atm but can/will change if needed for raids.
On December 19 2010 01:46 Trizz wrote: We actually have 1 active hunter atm, so yes.
Fair enough, Done all of WOTLK Contect, and been an officer in a couple guilds on my realm so I wont need much help getting set up for raids (most of ICC never got it cleared unfortunately last raid guild I was in fell apart due to a few of the officers having bitch fests with eachother)
We have easily enough people to fill 10man raids (32 people at 85 atm), however to regularly run 25mans we need pretty much everything, mostly healers and DPS though.
damn, i wanna play but won't be getting an internet line installed until very late jan/early feb (on some crappy mobile internet atm which disconnects every half hour and has a 5gb/month allowance). got a warrior i can move when i finally get net back
I'm actually on Haomarush, alliance though. Considering faction changing so as to join the guild, but I'm curious what the horde queues are like nowadays.
Do you guys take people who are still levelling? I mean I am in a casual guild with an 85 shammy, but I have a warrior prot tank that I am levelling. I am willing to server change if you take on levellers.
Live streaming Maloriak right now. Extended raid today.
seems like you have some problems there ^^ kinda fun to watch this
I fucked up sometimes and to do this boss with two healers and two tanks is really hard. Picking up three adds that run like Usain bolt while i still have to kite shit is beyond hard. But we're having a break and will own it soon
Live streaming Maloriak right now. Extended raid today.
seems like you have some problems there ^^ kinda fun to watch this
I fucked up sometimes and to do this boss with two healers and two tanks is really hard. Picking up three adds that run like Usain bolt while i still have to kite shit is beyond hard. But we're having a break and will own it soon
yea i hope so :D any other raids after that? i realy would like to play wow but i tried some lame private server like half year ago, and it seems that its just too much pve for me i want to kill ! :D
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wow guys seriously? im siting here watching this for what now 3 hours :D? and you still trying same boss isnt this a bit boring ? same thing over and over? you were so close few times tho like 2m hp left for boss then tank dies :D
I fucked up the screenshot(So sorry) My computer froze and my screnshoot got lost in the tubes. To compensate for that, here is a awesome picture of the loot that i got(the head):
Live streaming Maloriak right now. Extended raid today.
seems like you have some problems there ^^ kinda fun to watch this
I fucked up sometimes and to do this boss with two healers and two tanks is really hard. Picking up three adds that run like Usain bolt while i still have to kite shit is beyond hard. But we're having a break and will own it soon
yea i hope so :D any other raids after that? i realy would like to play wow but i tried some lame private server like half year ago, and it seems that its just too much pve for me i want to kill ! :D
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wow guys seriously? im siting here watching this for what now 3 hours :D? and you still trying same boss isnt this a bit boring ? same thing over and over? you were so close few times tho like 2m hp left for boss then tank dies :D
Beating something that you work hard for is greater than anything. If we would have beaten maloriak on second try (aka 10% wipe) then that kill would have not as epic like the malorik kill we had which appeared after 3 hours of wipes.
On December 18 2010 09:36 absalom86 wrote: Any update on the US guild ?
The US Guild has 2/5 bastion of twilight and 2/6 blackwing descent (almost got maloriak too but hit the hard enrage when at 10% when we used 3 healers so gunna go for 2 healers and try again tonight)
I'm glad the EU counterpart is fairing so nicely too :D
btw, i want our public forum thread to look as nice as yalls
We got Halfus tonight as well for the second time (without the time warden drake, he was sleeping). Went down quite fast with a fairly challenging drake combo. Well played everyone. Valiona and Theralion are going down tomorrow no probs ^^
On December 20 2010 22:31 KovuTalli wrote: I'll be changing over on weds when I get paid, Also do you guys accept levelers? A friend asked a page or two ago and never got a reply.
On December 20 2010 22:31 KovuTalli wrote: I'll be changing over on weds when I get paid, Also do you guys accept levelers? A friend asked a page or two ago and never got a reply.
Yeh, that was me. I'd just like a confirmation from someone that it's cool before I splash out on a transfer.
On December 20 2010 22:32 ecnahc wrote: US update, we're currently 6/12 now with maloriak/atramedes down. Conclave tonight, wish us luck.
Good luck overseas BROS.
And to anyone asking, yes, casual levelers are always welcome from the TL.net community. But, if you ever wish to get a raiding spot you must apply and that isn't a guarantee you will cut it. So if you're in for just the casual play, please do come and have fun with us. If you later on think you want to raid, do an app right away and see what your chances are and if you wish to transfer then. There you go.
On December 20 2010 22:32 ecnahc wrote: US update, we're currently 6/12 now with maloriak/atramedes down. Conclave tonight, wish us luck.
Good luck overseas BROS.
And to anyone asking, yes, casual levelers are always welcome from the TL.net community. But, if you ever wish to get a raiding spot you must apply and that isn't a guarantee you will cut it. So if you're in for just the casual play, please do come and have fun with us. If you later on think you want to raid, do an app right away and see what your chances are and if you wish to transfer then. There you go.
I'm really up for raiding, I just need to level the char I want to raid with. I'll put in in an application form anyway, is it the form on WoWprogress.com? and to whom do I send it to here on TL? :D
Restoration shaman PoV, and quite zoomed out. So it's fairly easy to see what's happening and what we are doing right/wrong.
I always have the stream up when I get accepted into raids. But I also have the raids up when I feel like it, which turns out to be quite often. So if you want to see when I wipe on the first pull in SFK HC (That was not me Dooba!!! stfu! :D) you are welcome to watch the stream. But as I mentioned, if we raid and I'm in the raid. Expect the stream to be up and running.
I would love to join your ranks. I heard/read baout TL since Brood War and often came here to this site for SC2 last year. I knew you were in WoW only this morning but I didn't have a chance to talk to anyone in charge of recruiting yet.
I'm feral dps specced, I'm dedicated and addicted to the game and I'm thrilling to start raiding with a serious guild (since mine isn't).
Please PM me here or at my char Kaythal on Haomarush for more information. Thanks Kaythal
On December 23 2010 09:25 Kaythal wrote: I would love to join your ranks. I heard/read baout TL since Brood War and often came here to this site for SC2 last year. I knew you were in WoW only this morning but I didn't have a chance to talk to anyone in charge of recruiting yet.
I'm feral dps specced, I'm dedicated and addicted to the game and I'm thrilling to start raiding with a serious guild (since mine isn't).
Please PM me here or at my char Kaythal on Haomarush for more information. Thanks Kaythal
I think you are gravely mistaken about how guilds in WoW recruit nowadays. Unless you're a player from Premonition/Paragon, nobody will be "pm"ing you in order to recruit you. It's the other way, mate. You'll have to go through the recruiting process like others, and that starts from writing a formal application. Do keep in mind that you've already produced the worst possible first impression.
Any veteran WoW players here? What's the feel of the current game right now? I quit a year ago because the game was just becoming a casual's paradise and there really was no incentive to play anymore. When you can create a guild from scratch and be in the top 10 on the server within a month, you have a problem. Not to mention a horrible community too focused on DPS meters and gear level to do anything else.
Is there something there for more serious players, that kind of separates the men from the boys?
My friends are jumping back in, just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
Yes, this expansion definitely brought back more interesting boss encounters with several phases and more than 2 abilities per phase. If you are a decent player who can listen during raid and come prepared, we'd love to see your application.
On December 30 2010 11:15 holdthephone wrote: Any veteran WoW players here? What's the feel of the current game right now? I quit a year ago because the game was just becoming a casual's paradise and there really was no incentive to play anymore. When you can create a guild from scratch and be in the top 10 on the server within a month, you have a problem. Not to mention a horrible community too focused on DPS meters and gear level to do anything else.
Is there something there for more serious players, that kind of separates the men from the boys?
My friends are jumping back in, just want to make sure I'm not wasting my time.
You've quit just before T10 hardmodes propely kicked in, at the era of T9 (ToGC25HC) farm. No surprise you wanted to quit
In terms of challenge, T10 was right up there with Ulduar's stuff, you kinda missed out. Not by much. Blizz have really listened, and the Casualclysm turned out to be but a rumor, as they intend to make the entry raid substantially harder than Naxx/OS/EoE, and they still want to keep the hardmodes system up for the next raids as well.
As for ilvl/GS e-peen measuring, that was just the mainstream fad amongst those who farmed Gunship hc and couldn't do anything else, whilst still considering themselves hardmode raiders.
Can casual players still join the guild? Edit: From reading the thread more closely it seems casual players can join but there is no info about who to talk to. I haven't got the EU version of the game yet, if I buy it can I just log in and ask for an invite?
Might I point out a mistake on the recruitment page. You said at the very end that Epic Gems are a minimum requirement. You probably know but only the JC will have access to the latest epic gems and the previous epic gems are sub-standard to the current crop of rare quality gems. Perhaps change it to Cataclysm Rare Quality Gems?
On January 07 2011 10:16 tYsopz wrote: Forgive me if I'm clueless, but isn't Nefarian the final boss in BWL? Pretty sure I have his axe lying around somewhere.
I wish I could raid too with you :S Or in any guild, playing wow and not being able to raid is so frustrating that i might end up quitting now pretty much forever after ~5yr.
I know i got enough of experience in raiding and acting + having right attitude etc. Still there's no ANY guild that rights in sensible time and is on same level with me while having good enough leading.
I also LOVE PvP but there's no way to do it without arena team. There is only 1 good pvp guild on my realm that doesnt recruit any ret paladins atm and their premades are at night. (Tarren Mill - EU [high/full])
This is so weird - just picked up the WoW crackpipe today after two years clean and wanted to roll a new character - did so, on a whim, on Haomarush, horde side
I'm levelling up a resto shaman at the moment, primarily for PvP but I also want to do some raiding on it. Is recruitment open for resto shamans? I see you only listed holy paladin and priest.
You are stuck on Nef for about a month now? Also, you should do Halfus HM each ID, he is a cakewalk. Conclave HM is not worth the trouble tbh, there drops so few BiS stuff that its really not worth putting up with the RNG crap at Rohash.
On January 29 2011 21:18 Celial wrote: You are stuck on Nef for about a month now? Also, you should do Halfus HM each ID, he is a cakewalk. Conclave HM is not worth the trouble tbh, there drops so few BiS stuff that its really not worth putting up with the RNG crap at Rohash.
We had some general drama and could not raid that good for a couple of weeks. We are finally back now though, yesterday we had 7 new people on the attempts on nefarian (10 man) and we were able to get him to 29%. Hopefully we will kill today or 25 man tomorow making us able to do heroics next reset
Skip Magmaw HM. He bugs like hell and didn't get fixed this patch. The two most annoying bugs: the skeletons can spawn on top of the guys who chain him down. If that happens, he instantly despawns; and sometimes when trying to chain him down instead of slumping forward, he just leans back and is not attackable for about a minute.
We wasted 15 hours on him to get the kill, the first killtry being after ~3h. Then add a kiter who runs through the fire and the occasionally DD fuck-up.
Honestly? No clue. I guess we will find out in about an hour. On the one hand you miss the debuff from the Slate Dragon now, but on the other hand the dragons melt even faster now and add a bigger debuff.
On March 26 2012 18:17 sako019 wrote: Hello, if someone can send me a europe resurection I would appreciate it ! please email me sako019@hotmail.com because I just lurk on TL.
Same here, someone was kind enough to send me a res from US but it seems it doesn't work with my eu account >.>
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