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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 23 2011 06:27 GMT
#1801
Dismember is just out of favor right now. That's my point though, MBI is just a flavor of the month kind of thing. Can it storm into a game 1 win? Absolutely, if you aren't ready, you're dead. But there's just too much stuff out there for cards like Plague Stinger and Whispering Specter to be power houses in a competitive deck.

I'm glad there's a deck for Crusader though, he's been relatively marginal in the past.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
October 23 2011 06:34 GMT
#1802
On October 23 2011 15:25 dignity wrote:
Against an aggro deck I think you might want marrow shards to take out their 1 toughness guys instead, since they will probably be attacking you.


I'm not going to argue since I've been drinking, I completely agree that marrow shards might be the right choice. But the deck has issues with inkmoth and turn 1 Stromkirk that's why I ran it.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 06:46:20
October 23 2011 06:42 GMT
#1803
On October 23 2011 15:00 dignity wrote:

Everyone DID run dismembers mainboard at one point. Problem is you end up losing too much life against someone who was not playing infect, which was the majority of the people.


I know. That's why I said everyone will go BACK to playing MD dismembers. And they will if infect becomes very popular. It'll make it hard for infect to become a top deck. It's just well positioned atm.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 06:47:42
October 23 2011 06:47 GMT
#1804
I forsee someone making an infectblade deck in the future.

How exactly do you deal with a crusader with a feast and famine?
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 23 2011 06:52 GMT
#1805
On October 23 2011 15:47 dignity wrote:
I forsee someone making an infectblade deck in the future.

How exactly do you deal with a crusader with a feast and famine?


I guess it'd be in response Dismember. Or Disperse! Kakow!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 23 2011 06:53 GMT
#1806
Quite honestly it wouldn't be a counter to dismember unless they didn't actually have one in hand.

Yeah blue would still get through. Lets fix that by strapping on a body and mind to him.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 23 2011 06:53 GMT
#1807
Ratchet bomb would do it but its kinda slow.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 23 2011 07:03 GMT
#1808
On October 23 2011 15:53 dignity wrote:
Quite honestly it wouldn't be a counter to dismember unless they didn't actually have one in hand.

Yeah blue would still get through. Lets fix that by strapping on a body and mind to him.


I don't think MBI could do that efficiently. But for the sake of argument, you've got Day of Judgement, Black Sun's Zenith, Garruk Wolves, GftT, Dismember(obviously not format defining...) and Edicts. Not awful.

Infect Blade sounds like it could be cool though. People have tried it before, no?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 23 2011 07:07 GMT
#1809
Technically there is no way to make something completely irremovable. I was just joking with the whole removal thing.

No idea if anyone tried it yet. It would definitely kill faster than hexblade but I don't know if it would be too easy to stop or not.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
October 23 2011 07:40 GMT
#1810
On October 23 2011 16:07 dignity wrote:
Technically there is no way to make something completely irremovable. I was just joking with the whole removal thing.

No idea if anyone tried it yet. It would definitely kill faster than hexblade but I don't know if it would be too easy to stop or not.


Sure, I know it's silly, but it's you can come up with some pretty neat ideas by thinking about the obvious.

I feel like any kind of "Infect-Blade" would have to be in something of a controlly shell, not a desperate race to 10 Poison. If you play it like that Mirran Crusader+Angelic Destiny deck, you're just trying to live the dream too much.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-24 02:27:17
October 23 2011 07:41 GMT
#1811
Did 2 drafts tonight, won one (split finals) and pulled a Liliana in the post game packs (and a Mikeaus in the draft!). Totally scrubbed out the 2nd draft after committing to burning vengance then getting completely cut packs 2 and 3 (I didn't care at all, was too happy about the Liliana).

The first deck had 10 pieces of removal in it (off the top of my head: 1 into the maw, 1 Slayer of the Wicked, 2 Geistflame, 2 Fiend Hunter, 2 Bonds of Faith, 1 Rolling Tremblor, 1 Blasphemous Act), was quite insane.

Also, the Olivia Commander deck worked out well. I had one turn in the game where I controlled all 3 commanders (Olivia, Sisay, and Grand Arbiter). It was just so much fun, although it did get locked out by decks that had access to a bunch of old cards I'd never heard of.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 23 2011 07:43 GMT
#1812
Oh its definitely going to be a control deck. It would probably take the control shell of the old darkblade back in the era of cawblade.

You just have to guard your blades and your creatures too heavily for it not to be control.
tQDanTe
Profile Joined January 2008
United States270 Posts
October 23 2011 12:14 GMT
#1813
heya im kinda new to magic and have it online was wondering if anyone would want to add me and let me observe their games and help a noob out!
UniqueKnowledge on PSN; Sup
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 23 2011 16:27 GMT
#1814
On October 23 2011 16:43 dignity wrote:
Oh its definitely going to be a control deck. It would probably take the control shell of the old darkblade back in the era of cawblade.

You just have to guard your blades and your creatures too heavily for it not to be control.


Terrible idea. The old Darkblade decks was good for one reason, access to Inquisition and Tarpit against the Caw-Blade-Jace sea. The old Darkblade decks were abandoned because the mana base was fucking awful which it still is, if not worse. Thirdly, Caw-Blade at that point wasn't even a control deck any more.
Get it by your hands...
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 23 2011 19:24 GMT
#1815
Just entered an 8-4. Pack 2 my picks went 1) Falkenwrath Marauders, 2) Olivia Voldaren, 3) Skirsdag Cultist, 4) Falkenwrath Marauders. LOL. In years of drafting I don't think I have ever had such a ridiculous string of picks.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
October 23 2011 19:30 GMT
#1816
I did not follow magic during the summer largely due to cawblade being completely dominant. I did not even know cawblade strayed from control.

I probably should have just said it would be WUB colored control. It made sense to me yesterday when I posted (it was 5am at night). I can't recall why I wanted to include white right now...
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 23 2011 19:52 GMT
#1817
If anything, caw-blade became more of a control deck over the course of the summer. Near the end, most lists were completely dropping the swords and it was more caw-go.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 23 2011 20:13 GMT
#1818
On October 24 2011 04:24 DEN1ED wrote:
Just entered an 8-4. Pack 2 my picks went 1) Falkenwrath Marauders, 2) Olivia Voldaren, 3) Skirsdag Cultist, 4) Falkenwrath Marauders. LOL. In years of drafting I don't think I have ever had such a ridiculous string of picks.

Who the fuck passed you Olivia Voldaren? There must have been a foil planeswalker in there...
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
October 23 2011 21:14 GMT
#1819
On October 24 2011 05:13 deth2munkies wrote:
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On October 24 2011 04:24 DEN1ED wrote:
Just entered an 8-4. Pack 2 my picks went 1) Falkenwrath Marauders, 2) Olivia Voldaren, 3) Skirsdag Cultist, 4) Falkenwrath Marauders. LOL. In years of drafting I don't think I have ever had such a ridiculous string of picks.

Who the fuck passed you Olivia Voldaren? There must have been a foil planeswalker in there...

IDK but I'm not complaining. Won the draft. Got a little tricky when my opponent in the finals had double bloodline keeper. Battle of the bombs.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 22:07:38
October 23 2011 22:07 GMT
#1820
Do any of you guys want to do a bit of standard playtesting/deck tweaking over skype? Add me at syntax._.error
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