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520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
November 27 2012 20:58 GMT
#4961
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/11272012d

Cubes. With power.
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fifasnipe2224
Profile Joined January 2011
United States243 Posts
November 27 2012 21:06 GMT
#4962
You dont get to keep the cards in the MTGO Cube draft, right? Dont you just win like m13 or RtR packs? Also what is the MTGO Cube entry fee?
.:RoS:.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
November 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#4963
I believe it's 8 Event tickets or 3 Cube tickets. If you win you get cube tickets and a pack of something (RTR I believe). The problem is it's horrible EV, like you don't even get enough cube tickets if you 3-1 to enter another Cube draft, you don't keep the cards and it's just not very well done overall.

Yes, Cube is meant to be fun, but do you really want to spend $8 to participate in an event where your only reward is something you can't use in any other format and a pack of cards that cost $3 anyway?
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
November 28 2012 01:35 GMT
#4964
On November 28 2012 06:06 fifasnipe2224 wrote:
You dont get to keep the cards in the MTGO Cube draft, right? Dont you just win like m13 or RtR packs? Also what is the MTGO Cube entry fee?

- phantom event. so no

- first/second place gets 2 booster/1 booster along with the mtgo cube tickets (depending on the week for this next one, is like uzra block or masques block)

- ... all these information is on the site.... -_- go read it

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/11272012d
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
November 28 2012 01:44 GMT
#4965
not a fan of power + sol ring in cube
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
fifasnipe2224
Profile Joined January 2011
United States243 Posts
November 30 2012 17:05 GMT
#4966
I drafted a lot during Zendikar and I recently started up on M13. Do you guys have any tips for RtR drafting?
.:RoS:.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
November 30 2012 17:14 GMT
#4967
3 power and 4 toughness are the benchmarks for creatures in this format.
Get it by your hands...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 30 2012 17:15 GMT
#4968
On December 01 2012 02:05 fifasnipe2224 wrote:
I drafted a lot during Zendikar and I recently started up on M13. Do you guys have any tips for RtR drafting?


Have a plan (this applies to all formats, but still). Even if the plan is "5 colour good stuff" you need to pick according to that (value axebane guardian really high rofl). Also, don't be afraid to change plans in the first pack. Just because you opened angel of serenity, doesn't mean Azorious or Selesnya are open. Also, be aware what colour combinations are deep. In my experience Selesnya can support 3 decent decks assuming they make some small splashes, but even 2 heavy izzet drafters can starve each other. Think about why that teleportal tabled but the stealer of secrets is gone, etc.

Pretty much, just draft, I guess. RTR offers a lot of viable decks/strategies.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 05 2012 19:01 GMT
#4969
This is the most fun deck I've ever seen...must...build:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-omnidoor-thragfire/
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 06 2012 05:05 GMT
#4970
On December 06 2012 04:01 deth2munkies wrote:
This is the most fun deck I've ever seen...must...build:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-omnidoor-thragfire/


He's reaching now, aka trying too hard.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
December 06 2012 05:30 GMT
#4971
On December 01 2012 02:05 fifasnipe2224 wrote:
I drafted a lot during Zendikar and I recently started up on M13. Do you guys have any tips for RtR drafting?


I just take the best card of the guild I happen to have fallen into after the first pack. Everybody seems to think they're a 5-color control pro drafter. Then they play a guildgate on turn 4 on the draw and pass the turn with frown.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
December 06 2012 05:46 GMT
#4972
On December 06 2012 14:05 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 04:01 deth2munkies wrote:
This is the most fun deck I've ever seen...must...build:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-omnidoor-thragfire/


He's reaching now, aka trying too hard.


I actually played a deck similar back in the day. I used to collect puddinhead cards, which are cards designed by that artist. One of his cards was door to nothingness and troll ascetic at the time which i played both in my 5-color crazyness deck. Its a lot of fun to stop some standard decks at FNM with something like this. It also makes you play really well because you don't have as much wiggle room to fuck up.
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 06 2012 05:57 GMT
#4973
On December 06 2012 14:05 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 04:01 deth2munkies wrote:
This is the most fun deck I've ever seen...must...build:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-omnidoor-thragfire/


He's reaching now, aka trying too hard.


Why do you think that? I've been watching his stream and it's a blast. So much fun. He's not out there proclaiming it as a T1 deck, he's saying it's a super fun deck that wins a surprising amount (it wins more than it loses, which is nuts to me)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Aquadre
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia87 Posts
December 06 2012 07:18 GMT
#4974
I have got a PTQ coming up this saturday in Melbourne this will be my first magic event and I was wondering if you guys have any tips for me. What kind of strategy do you think I should be planning and what kind of things I need to look out for while building my decks.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 11:51:34
December 06 2012 11:50 GMT
#4975
On December 06 2012 14:05 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 04:01 deth2munkies wrote:
This is the most fun deck I've ever seen...must...build:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-omnidoor-thragfire/


He's reaching now, aka trying too hard.


What's the problem with making fun decks that can do crazy things? Timmy dreams here.

It also shows that as long as you play Thragtusk and Sphinx's Revalation, you can play literally anything else and still win because both of those cards are so fucking nuts.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
December 06 2012 12:16 GMT
#4976
Just won my second draft or rtr. Its my fourth draft after a year and a half. Its a pretty fun format. Some people seem to get ridiculous decks and sometimes the packs are just ass.
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 14:14:40
December 06 2012 14:14 GMT
#4977
On December 06 2012 14:57 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 14:05 Judicator wrote:
On December 06 2012 04:01 deth2munkies wrote:
This is the most fun deck I've ever seen...must...build:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-omnidoor-thragfire/


He's reaching now, aka trying too hard.


Why do you think that? I've been watching his stream and it's a blast. So much fun. He's not out there proclaiming it as a T1 deck, he's saying it's a super fun deck that wins a surprising amount (it wins more than it loses, which is nuts to me)


There's nothing wrong with fun decks, but honestly Ali Aintrazi already showed where 5c decks should go. He already has the Door to Nothingness in the board for particular match ups. Woo has a lot of just pointless cards for the sake of having pointless cards in the deck. I mean I would play most of Woo's decks any day, but this one is just tear down Ali's deck, put in "fun" cards (not Door, as Door is very hard to beat for some control decks) in place of functional ones.

Does look very fun to play though although if he was going do Omni, might as well put in Gisela and/or Worldspine over the Griselbrand.
Get it by your hands...
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#4978
On December 06 2012 23:14 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 14:57 Risen wrote:
On December 06 2012 14:05 Judicator wrote:
On December 06 2012 04:01 deth2munkies wrote:
This is the most fun deck I've ever seen...must...build:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-omnidoor-thragfire/


He's reaching now, aka trying too hard.


Why do you think that? I've been watching his stream and it's a blast. So much fun. He's not out there proclaiming it as a T1 deck, he's saying it's a super fun deck that wins a surprising amount (it wins more than it loses, which is nuts to me)


There's nothing wrong with fun decks, but honestly Ali Aintrazi already showed where 5c decks should go. He already has the Door to Nothingness in the board for particular match ups. Woo has a lot of just pointless cards for the sake of having pointless cards in the deck. I mean I would play most of Woo's decks any day, but this one is just tear down Ali's deck, put in "fun" cards (not Door, as Door is very hard to beat for some control decks) in place of functional ones.

Does look very fun to play though although if he was going do Omni, might as well put in Gisela and/or Worldspine over the Griselbrand.


They're not pointless if they're fun. Gisela and Worldspine don't draw cards, with Gristlebrand, you can potentially draw then cast 7 cards off Omni.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
December 06 2012 15:40 GMT
#4979
On December 06 2012 16:18 Aquadre wrote:
I have got a PTQ coming up this saturday in Melbourne this will be my first magic event and I was wondering if you guys have any tips for me. What kind of strategy do you think I should be planning and what kind of things I need to look out for while building my decks.

which format?
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 06 2012 15:43 GMT
#4980
On December 07 2012 00:06 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 23:14 Judicator wrote:
On December 06 2012 14:57 Risen wrote:
On December 06 2012 14:05 Judicator wrote:
On December 06 2012 04:01 deth2munkies wrote:
This is the most fun deck I've ever seen...must...build:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-omnidoor-thragfire/


He's reaching now, aka trying too hard.


Why do you think that? I've been watching his stream and it's a blast. So much fun. He's not out there proclaiming it as a T1 deck, he's saying it's a super fun deck that wins a surprising amount (it wins more than it loses, which is nuts to me)


There's nothing wrong with fun decks, but honestly Ali Aintrazi already showed where 5c decks should go. He already has the Door to Nothingness in the board for particular match ups. Woo has a lot of just pointless cards for the sake of having pointless cards in the deck. I mean I would play most of Woo's decks any day, but this one is just tear down Ali's deck, put in "fun" cards (not Door, as Door is very hard to beat for some control decks) in place of functional ones.

Does look very fun to play though although if he was going do Omni, might as well put in Gisela and/or Worldspine over the Griselbrand.


They're not pointless if they're fun. Gisela and Worldspine don't draw cards, with Gristlebrand, you can potentially draw then cast 7 cards off Omni.


I am not relying on a 7 drop and a 10 drop. His best line off of Omni with GBrand (sounds like a rapper name) is to get timewalk and Kessig them. So....why do that in a deck with 4 Ambitions? If you resolve Omni, you can Ambition a timewalk, Gisela/Worldspine them easy. Omni is only relevant if you are casting relevant cards and frankly banking on having 14 life with that deck isn't something I want to do. If I whiff on the first 7 then I am actually just stone dead.

When I was messing around with 4cc I did end up going 5cc and built something similar to Woo's list. In playtesting with 4cc, I ran into a Door deck (dedicated one at that) and the match up was difficult (or would have been) if I didn't have Drownyards and more Dissipates mainboard than the average control deck. So I moved into 5cc and messed around with cards I wanted to cast (namely Thoughtflare), found that 5cc has many lines of late game play (Door, Omni, Gisela/Kessig lines) and went from there. My personal playtesting stopped at a singleton Cyclonic Rift in that deck. Overloaded Cyclonic Rift off of Omni if you're holding a finisher is pretty much just game, better than Temporal in most situations.

I stopped touching that deck because the mana base was just god awful even with Lanterns.
Get it by your hands...
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