• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:24
CEST 20:24
KST 03:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"2ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!28Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)94
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format What's the best tug of war? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7020 users

Magic: The Gathering - Page 169

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 167 168 169 170 171 665 Next
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
May 24 2012 19:49 GMT
#3361
Until the blink deck gets more PTing in, I won't use that. Superfriends will be retired for a bit too, think I need to relearn the meta before I play that at the store.

So, here's the deck I think I'm gonna take to FNM. It deeds some tweaking for sure, but has actually done surprisingly well in some play testing.

Mono-black.get there(hopefully haha)
+ Show Spoiler +

Lands: 24
24x Swamp

Creatures: 18
2x Vault Skirge
4x Geralf's Messenger
3x Solemn Simulacrum
4x Phyrexian Obliterator
1x Mikaeus the Unhallowed
2x Grave Titan
1x Rune Scarred Demon
1x Griselbrand

Instants: 3
1x Go for the Throat
2x Tragic Slip

Artifacts: 8
2x Ratchet Bomb
4x Lashwrithe
2x Caged Sun

Sorceries: 7
3x Black Sun's Zenith
2x Distress
2x Despise

Sideboard: 15
1x Killing Wave
1x Batterskull
1x Black Sun's Zenith
1x Go for the Throat
1x Army of the Damned
2x Sever the Bloodline
2x Hex Parasite
2x Tragic Slip
2x Dismember
2x Surgical Extraction
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 24 2012 20:21 GMT
#3362
Mono-black isn't a deck. Your sideboard will never be good so there are just some match ups that you simply can't win in.
Get it by your hands...
Rainofpain
Profile Joined December 2010
United States125 Posts
May 25 2012 00:25 GMT
#3363
I love how every time Judicator posts it`s to bring reality crashing down into some hopeful person`s MTG life. Not that he`s wrong, I always agree with him. He says things you should listen to.
It`s hard to read bad players because they`re bad - Idra
hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
May 25 2012 00:33 GMT
#3364
On May 25 2012 05:21 Judicator wrote:
Mono-black isn't a deck.


^^^^^ every single set....
"hai guise I liek mono b frum odysei blok n i herd it waz ovr3powdered so i remaded it"
NO STOP IT.

I really really hope planechase comes to mtgo soon. I might start playing again.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
May 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#3365
On May 25 2012 09:33 hkf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 05:21 Judicator wrote:
Mono-black isn't a deck.


^^^^^ every single set....
"hai guise I liek mono b frum odysei blok n i herd it waz ovr3powdered so i remaded it"
NO STOP IT.

I really really hope planechase comes to mtgo soon. I might start playing again.

First time I have ever made a mono black deck. I even resisted the urge during the vampire upswing in Zendikar. But there's something about Phyrexian Obliterator. I just have to try at least once.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
May 25 2012 02:29 GMT
#3366
Well if you do want to try and make that deck work, add more land. 24 is not enough.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 25 2012 03:34 GMT
#3367
On May 25 2012 09:25 Rainofpain wrote:
I love how every time Judicator posts it`s to bring reality crashing down into some hopeful person`s MTG life. Not that he`s wrong, I always agree with him. He says things you should listen to.


I try to live the dream more than most people. I refused to play Jace in post-Shards Zendikar T2 while playing online, opting for mono-green Elves, UB Painful Quandry and then GW Eldrazi, same when Splinter Twin and Cawblade came into being. Post-ban Jace/Stoneforge, wanted to make mono-black work.

Wanted to play Solar Flare and then enjoyed fighting off Wolf-ramp, then played UB and enjoyed fighting off Delver, playing Esper and enjoying the fight against RG. I just enjoy finding the deck that seems to be there but not quite and tweaking it to no end.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 25 2012 07:10 GMT
#3368
On May 25 2012 12:34 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 09:25 Rainofpain wrote:
I love how every time Judicator posts it`s to bring reality crashing down into some hopeful person`s MTG life. Not that he`s wrong, I always agree with him. He says things you should listen to.


I try to live the dream more than most people. I refused to play Jace in post-Shards Zendikar T2 while playing online, opting for mono-green Elves, UB Painful Quandry and then GW Eldrazi, same when Splinter Twin and Cawblade came into being. Post-ban Jace/Stoneforge, wanted to make mono-black work.

Wanted to play Solar Flare and then enjoyed fighting off Wolf-ramp, then played UB and enjoyed fighting off Delver, playing Esper and enjoying the fight against RG. I just enjoy finding the deck that seems to be there but not quite and tweaking it to no end.


That was a thing? I like that.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
May 25 2012 07:20 GMT
#3369
It was UB control with extra win more enchantments.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
May 25 2012 11:29 GMT
#3370
anyone knows if there's a channel on magic online similar to what Auction was a few years back?

or does all trading go through the marketplace tab alone?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 25 2012 12:44 GMT
#3371
On May 25 2012 16:20 bobbob wrote:
It was UB control with extra win more enchantments.

More accurately, UB control was Painful Quandry without Painful. PQ ran the Inquistion and Duress package before other people realized how good it was.
Get it by your hands...
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 22:14:54
May 26 2012 22:12 GMT
#3372
Ended up running Judicator's exact esper deck list today at our saturday game day.

Went 1-2, losing match 1 to wolf run on a game 3 misplay (forgot to trigger my evolving wilds to hit my would've been game ending elesh norn)

Won match 2 on a Tamiyo/Gideon combo - actually hit the Tamiyo emblem. Forbidden alchemy is a funny card when that goes off.

Lost match 3 on game 3 to a birthing pod deck. Thalia really hurt (was on the draw) and archon of justice hit my 4th land drop (couldn't play the day on turn 5 to save it).

You couldn't have been more right though Judicator: I never ever felt like Mana Leak was even worth the time with this build, and amass the components was always positive every time I cast it. Will definitely be running that same deck list. Seems strong!

I couldn't find an instance (didn't know when) to side in devastation tide. What MU would that be sided in for?
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-26 23:51:16
May 26 2012 23:43 GMT
#3373
On May 27 2012 07:12 Durp wrote:
Ended up running Judicator's exact esper deck list today at our saturday game day.

Went 1-2, losing match 1 to wolf run on a game 3 misplay (forgot to trigger my evolving wilds to hit my would've been game ending elesh norn)

Won match 2 on a Tamiyo/Gideon combo - actually hit the Tamiyo emblem. Forbidden alchemy is a funny card when that goes off.

Lost match 3 on game 3 to a birthing pod deck. Thalia really hurt (was on the draw) and archon of justice hit my 4th land drop (couldn't play the day on turn 5 to save it).

You couldn't have been more right though Judicator: I never ever felt like Mana Leak was even worth the time with this build, and amass the components was always positive every time I cast it. Will definitely be running that same deck list. Seems strong!

I couldn't find an instance (didn't know when) to side in devastation tide. What MU would that be sided in for?


Whatever match up you feel it's good in, I only boarded it in online testing against random decks or against UW Control since well-timed Tides means 2 activations of PWs.

You need a fair number of games with any control deck in order to figure out proper lines of play or you end up just punting games. I guess the same can be said for any deck, but control just has so little room for error in today's meta.

And I remembered why I had Tide in there originally, it was for the mono-green decks (any version).
Get it by your hands...
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 27 2012 08:48 GMT
#3374
< Game day champion here, out of 32 people. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Was playing UB zombies with 4 Blood artist. Played my ass off against delver, UW humans, RG aggro, Junk Walkers, and in the finals naya pod. Sword of war and peace is a good card too. I'd change a lot with my list, and I got pretty lucky draws when it mattered. Terminus is dumb. Bonfire sure, day sure, entreat for 5 sure at least I get a chance to reach, but paying 1 white to completely blow out my board is pretty good. Lost to Junk walkers by that, but we had split into the top 8 first.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 28 2012 03:00 GMT
#3375
Grats! Deck sounds cool too
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
May 28 2012 03:24 GMT
#3376
NOOO, you guys, now I really want to go pull out my cards. The newest cards I have are basically Time Spiral era or thereabouts.
What would you guys suggest if I want to get back into the game casually, day9 keeps talking about it haha
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 28 2012 05:05 GMT
#3377
On May 28 2012 12:24 thurst0n wrote:
NOOO, you guys, now I really want to go pull out my cards. The newest cards I have are basically Time Spiral era or thereabouts.
What would you guys suggest if I want to get back into the game casually, day9 keeps talking about it haha


Just go play draft and other limited formats then. There aren't any cheap decks since once again this is near standard rotation and AVR didn't really introduce any new decks (rather killing the 2 dominant ones and buffing every other deck in between).
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 28 2012 17:22 GMT
#3378
I traded a Tamiyo I p1p1'ed for a Liliana of the Veil and a Tibalt. Was that dumb ?_?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 28 2012 17:52 GMT
#3379
Tamiyo will see marginal play in eternal/larger constructed formats while Tibalt and Liliana will see more play (by virtue of their mana costs). That being said, I don't see standard speeding up any more than it already is (Swords rotating out) so Tamiyo may be worth more in the upcoming months just from Standard.

It's not a bad trade by any means but M13 will kind of set the tone. Evaluations will hinge on how control will turn out according to Wizard.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 28 2012 18:40 GMT
#3380
He told me Tamiyo was $32 on SCG and Tibalt was 14 and Liliana was 21. I basically took him at his word, $32 seemed like a lot for a sleek but only reasonably powerful Planeswalker.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Prev 1 167 168 169 170 171 665 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Platinum Heroes Events
16:00
PHSC2 Tour S26 Cup #6
RotterdaM765
Liquipedia
Online Event
15:00
Yamato Cup #7
killerbeecast18
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 765
ProTech86
BRAT_OK 71
Vindicta 32
MindelVK 21
ZombieGrub20
EmSc Tv 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1271
Mini 546
ggaemo 196
Soulkey 156
Free 43
soO 35
Shine 26
HiyA 17
IntoTheRainbow 15
yabsab 10
[ Show more ]
firebathero 0
Dota 2
420jenkins922
monkeys_forever210
Counter-Strike
fl0m7187
minikerr28
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor351
Other Games
singsing1451
Beastyqt661
Grubby640
B2W.Neo500
elazer247
Liquid`Hasu222
ArmadaUGS138
Livibee99
C9.Mang073
Mew2King57
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1753
StarCraft 2
angryscii 33
EmSc Tv 19
EmSc2Tv 19
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 47
• Airneanach15
• Reevou 5
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 16
• FirePhoenix12
• Pr0nogo 9
• Michael_bg 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2302
Other Games
• Shiphtur455
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
16h 37m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 15h
INu's Battles
1d 16h
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Proleague 2026-07-26
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.