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Jazriel
Canada404 Posts
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BlackHat
United States264 Posts
On September 01 2010 11:07 barbsq wrote: i think new shaco is more/less the same as old shaco in terms of builds. AP might see a resurgence tho... edit: i suppose this doesnt help if you dont kno how old shaco was built, typically. I did jungle shaco, starting blue first (tho some ppl swear by red), opening fortpot +ward, then go for madreds and after that is pretty much whatever you want. I like a ga then start building dmg items (bthirsters). Just gank at lvl 3 (lvl w,e,q, its a pretty easy gank to pull off) since you will hit 3 at the same time as mid and duals will be lvl 2 if you go golem->wolves->wraiths and have the xp masteries. Appreciated. He is having mana problems so he is taking mp5/lvl seals, and other than that he is just working on getting the hang of him. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Shaco, Zilean, Yi, and MissFortune's 2nd alternate skin got a model. edit: veigar skin added + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4495/shacozilean.png) ![[image loading]](http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3750/yimissfortune.png) ![[image loading]](http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1117/viegar.png) | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On September 01 2010 12:41 HazMat wrote: Wtf another zilean skin....... the yi skin is pretty schmexy | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Yea, he gets the best skins. Even his original skin is beast. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On September 01 2010 12:44 Southlight wrote: Tell them to stop making skins for the same 4 heroes. This would be shaco's 2nd, yi's 3rd?, zilean's 3rd (only two are buyable anymore), and a base release skin for miss fortune. Doesn't really seem unreasonable.... Although I'm really waiting for the amazing ninja doctor-related skins; Dr Shen, Phd, Nurse Akali, and Trauma Patient Kennen imo. Also every champion has 2 alternate skins except nasus, janna, malphite, shaco, sion, soraka, tryndamere, udyr, and zilean (if you dont count the old saint zilean skin) Oh also i forgot to post the veigar skin, ill get on that. | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On September 01 2010 12:03 Scamp wrote: the best jungle karthus i've seen start in lane then disappear into jungle after a few levels. i've seen araragi do this a couple of times and pretty sure scarlet too (they were the two best karthus players btw). think this goes for all caster junglers (start in lane): gkgihowe or whatever did it with ryze and internet explorer did it with fiddle, both without smite.I need details on this jungle Karthas, STAT!!! | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On September 01 2010 12:34 Jazriel wrote: How do I jungle with Fiddle? Fiddle is the easiest jungler. You can start with any item at golem lvling w. Just don't be a baddie and refuse to get smite, it's needed. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On September 01 2010 12:51 HazMat wrote: Fiddle is the easiest jungler. You can start with any item at golem lvling w. Just don't be a baddie and refuse to get smite, it's needed. It isn't needed, how ever you will be barely outleveled by any solo lane if you take it. I'm usually 6 when mid is 7 and sidelanes are 3 or 4. Fiddle isn't all that reliant on summoner spells, so there isn't really a reason to not take smite. I also did a game of laning fiddle with a taric. Phasing shen/zilean was really hilarious. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On September 01 2010 13:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote: It isn't needed, how ever you will be barely outleveled by any solo lane if you take it. I'm usually 6 when mid is 7 and sidelanes are 3 or 4. Fiddle isn't all that reliant on summoner spells, so there isn't really a reason to not take smite. I also did a game of laning fiddle with a taric. Phasing shen/zilean was really hilarious. No, it's needed. Say the other team has a ww with smite. He sees that fiddle doesn't have smite and is jungling. He wards lizard/Golem and smite steals both. GG | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On September 01 2010 13:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote: It isn't needed, how ever you will be barely outleveled by any solo lane if you take it. I'm usually 6 when mid is 7 and sidelanes are 3 or 4. Fiddle isn't all that reliant on summoner spells, so there isn't really a reason to not take smite. I also did a game of laning fiddle with a taric. Phasing shen/zilean was really hilarious. actually, you do need at LEAST ghost or flash if not both on fiddle. I dont remember who i was playing with, but we played against a fiddle with smite/clairity or something like that and all i remember was that his ult was really not that scary. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Hate jungle fiddle, it's fairly pointless. I think he's really good in laning with a proper partner. I keep changing my mind about characters. Now I think ryze is a great champ IF he gets a 1v2 lane and stay way ahead in levels by farming a lot. Reliable cc with no projectile time is a pretty big deal imo. Overload scales great and the passive CDR helps a lot. He does a crapload of innate damage with just tank items and rod of ages so he ends up being fairly sturdy as well - to the extent that you don't really want your team to focus him because that means bunching up for him to slice you open and he might still not die after all that if your guys are dying first. He doesn't need to waste a whole lot of time fighting. Usually what you want to happen is that whenever ryze appears, someone (on their team) is dead in about a second. | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
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Pratoss
Canada201 Posts
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
me pinoc atlanta dyrus random (2 WCG players, 1 better-than-WCG player, 1 High Elo, 1 random) During champ select Atlanta says something along the lines of "wtf if this is our team then who the hell are we against?" I go into the game expecting easy 20 minute win while messing around. Overall enjoyable game incoming. their team: MLK - 1 kogmaw abuser playing taric, aka EZ mode random plays teemo. dies 9 times and fail-bait teamfights. we end up losing with that team zzzzz. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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