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Strikeforce: Fedor vs Rogers - November 7th - Page 5

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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 19:14:35
November 07 2009 19:14 GMT
#81
Parlayed Fedor-Mousasi-Werdum-Shields.

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Poll: if Rogers takes Fedor to a decision would u rank him as a #2 HW
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Only if its close

twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-07 19:42:31
November 07 2009 19:39 GMT
#82
No, because even if he did in close fashion it's still a loss. All he would have his a win over an arlovski who was about #6 at the time.

That is not the same competition that Brock/Mir/Nog have fought recently. I'd probably put Brett at 7. Brock is the #2 heavyweight in the world, losing to Fedor would not push Brett's accomplishments to being above any of the top 5.

Ratings should pay little attention to potential. They should focus on competition beat at that weight class. And the fashion you win in, for example a dominant performance over a top 10 guy over 3 rounds. Can mean a lot more than a flash KO in the first 30 seconds.

Essentially if Brett loses, even in a close fight. His record will be 1-1 against top 10 competition. That should never even earn you a top 10 status. But due to the thin nature of the current HW's across all promotions, it would be easier for him to move up in to the top 10. If he does put on a good performance, I could see him moving in to the middle/bottom of the top 10, and I wouldn't have a problem with it. Also because of Fedors dominance and undisputable #1 HW standing, that would help Rogers Case to move him to the top 10. But not #2, not by a long shot.

Oops I meant to click no, clicked only if its close by accident.
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
November 07 2009 19:45 GMT
#83
I heard about this fight on the Adam Carolla Podcast, he had Brett Rogers on, now I'm totally psyched. Brett seemed pretty damn confident.
"If you can chill..........then chill."
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 07 2009 20:41 GMT
#84
On November 08 2009 04:39 Dr.Lettuce wrote:
No, because even if he did in close fashion it's still a loss. All he would have his a win over an arlovski who was about #6 at the time.

That is not the same competition that Brock/Mir/Nog have fought recently. I'd probably put Brett at 7. Brock is the #2 heavyweight in the world, losing to Fedor would not push Brett's accomplishments to being above any of the top 5.

Ratings should pay little attention to potential. They should focus on competition beat at that weight class. And the fashion you win in, for example a dominant performance over a top 10 guy over 3 rounds. Can mean a lot more than a flash KO in the first 30 seconds.

Essentially if Brett loses, even in a close fight. His record will be 1-1 against top 10 competition. That should never even earn you a top 10 status. But due to the thin nature of the current HW's across all promotions, it would be easier for him to move up in to the top 10. If he does put on a good performance, I could see him moving in to the middle/bottom of the top 10, and I wouldn't have a problem with it. Also because of Fedors dominance and undisputable #1 HW standing, that would help Rogers Case to move him to the top 10. But not #2, not by a long shot.

Oops I meant to click no, clicked only if its close by accident.

I meant personally not as in official ratings. I agree that a loss technically shouldnt influence the proper ratings. (Fedor makes it quiet a bit special though.)
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 07 2009 20:53 GMT
#85
Ratings should pay little attention to potential. They should focus on competition beat at that weight class. And the fashion you win in, for example a dominant performance over a top 10 guy over 3 rounds. Can mean a lot more than a flash KO in the first 30 seconds.
QFT.
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
November 07 2009 21:52 GMT
#86
On November 08 2009 04:45 251 wrote:
I heard about this fight on the Adam Carolla Podcast, he had Brett Rogers on, now I'm totally psyched. Brett seemed pretty damn confident.


So were many before him. Arguably the best HW to walk the planet at the time, Nogueira, who could absorb punishment unheard of and who had jui-jitsu rivaling that of the Gracies never even had Fedor in trouble, let alone got close to beating him.

One mistake, that's all Rogers has to make. Just one. And if you think Fedor will fall like a sack of shit that Arlovski is then watch his fight against Fujita. The man trains to escape scraps and he's really good with going straight to the clinch when he's wobbly. At that point, I don't see Rogers having the ability to shake Fedor off. Even Fujita who's a great wrestler couldn't,

I hope nothing fluke like happens and Fedor gets the victory he deserves.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
AmorVincitOmnia
Profile Joined March 2005
Kenya3846 Posts
November 07 2009 22:47 GMT
#87
i'm really curious as to how Rogers will handle Fedor's ground game.

i've only seen a few of Rogers' fights, but i've never seen him on his back. i'm assuming his training camp has been preparing him for this since Fedor's takedowns and submissions are imo much better than his striking (not that his striking is weak at all, obviously)
r.i.p. Bud Shank May 27, 1926 - April 2, 2009
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
November 07 2009 23:03 GMT
#88
ok, when and how can i watch this on my computer live?
Entusman #51
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 07 2009 23:33 GMT
#89
In Canada, CBS, like all major American TV networks, is carried in the basic program package of all cable and satellite providers

Should be able to watch it on TV
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
November 08 2009 00:17 GMT
#90
If someone finds a stream could they post it here?
I really want to see these fights, but I do not have access to the fights atm.
Wishing you well.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
November 08 2009 00:35 GMT
#91
A few good links are here:
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=54817
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
November 08 2009 00:38 GMT
#92
On November 08 2009 09:35 niteReloaded wrote:
A few good links are here:
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=54817

man they aint workin ):

On November 08 2009 08:33 Sfydjklm wrote:
In Canada, CBS, like all major American TV networks, is carried in the basic program package of all cable and satellite providers

Should be able to watch it on TV

dont have tv lol
Entusman #51
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
November 08 2009 00:40 GMT
#93
main card doesn't start for another 2.5 hours right? i'll post here if i find a stream
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 08 2009 00:41 GMT
#94
1.5 hours
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 08 2009 00:41 GMT
#95
On November 08 2009 09:38 Mobius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 09:35 niteReloaded wrote:
A few good links are here:
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=54817

man they aint workin ):

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 08:33 Sfydjklm wrote:
In Canada, CBS, like all major American TV networks, is carried in the basic program package of all cable and satellite providers

Should be able to watch it on TV

dont have tv lol

i dusted off my old tv specially for this occasion^^
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
November 08 2009 01:27 GMT
#96
On November 08 2009 09:35 niteReloaded wrote:
A few good links are here:
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=54817


are they just showing old fedor fights right now?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10028 Posts
November 08 2009 01:34 GMT
#97
i hope someone livestreams this :<
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4068 Posts
November 08 2009 01:37 GMT
#98
so is that half an hour to go?
Drone is a way of living
Zinfandel
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada115 Posts
November 08 2009 01:37 GMT
#99
On November 08 2009 10:34 iamtt1 wrote:
i hope someone livestreams this :<


Fedor vs. Rogers will be live and free on CBS, main card starts at 9pm EST.
HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
November 08 2009 01:38 GMT
#100
On November 08 2009 10:27 kaisr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 09:35 niteReloaded wrote:
A few good links are here:
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=54817


are they just showing old fedor fights right now?

Yes.
I hope they air live too. Hope Fedor wins.
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