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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 08 2009 04:54 GMT
#241
It's 6 am, I need to sleep. Someone else can read back on this and see if there needs to be any bans handed out or not.
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MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
November 08 2009 04:55 GMT
#242
On November 08 2009 13:47 MYM.Testie wrote:
Shields vs Miller had its moments, but shields strikes were some of the weakest I had ever seen. (I don't watch THAT much mma). Miller had some great escapes though, and that was mostly what made it entertaining.

Fedor vs Rogers seemed like it was called a bit too early, imo. I understand the situation he was in, and it's better to end it before he starts eating shots and gets seriously damaged, but I think that one could have went on for a few more seconds. Considering how badly the fight started for Fedor, I was amazed he came through. Looked like he broke his nose or almost did, and getting hit in the nose, let alone like that, leaves you feeling really dizzy and off balance.


That's pretty much the summary of fedor's approach. He tricks people into thinking he's vulnerable and then uses certain insights he gained to know where they'll be and bam! This is why a lot of people say he's "lucky", because he always looks like he's "losing" before BAM! right in the kisser!

In McCarthy's defense Rogers started turning around and covering his face. Like one of the commentators said about the Gegard Mousasi stoppage, if

a) a fighter does not know where the punches are coming from and
b) is not defending them

then he's not intelligently defending himself. Given the fact that Rogers just got rocked and made ABSOLUTELY no attempt to stand up besides cover and roll means he failed to intelligently (and there's that KEY word INTELLIGENTLY) defend himself.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
November 08 2009 04:59 GMT
#243
He does this in every MMA thread. I'm used to it by now.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-08 05:04:53
November 08 2009 05:04 GMT
#244
On November 08 2009 13:59 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
He does this in just about every thread. I'm used to it by now.

there fixed
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
November 08 2009 05:08 GMT
#245
I understand why Fedor didn't want to go to the UFC now.

I actually liked the Shields fight.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
November 08 2009 05:24 GMT
#246
On November 08 2009 13:52 food wrote:
k im out this is ridic


Why do you suck so much as a human being? You're the most rude person I know on this forum, and I'm mostly a lurker. You've been nothing but wrong in most of your arguments that YOU start, and you act like a jerk the entire time.

You're an ass. Not even a funny one, you're just an ass.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
November 08 2009 05:24 GMT
#247
I'm sorry, but I found the Shields vs. Miller fight to be a complete bore. It seemed to me that Shields fights with the purpose of slooowwwinggg thingggs downnnn. I realize that this is a more technical, wrestling approach to fighting but he was like a goddamn human backpack. Most of the match was him just hanging on Miller and hoping to wear him out. I'm hoping he fights somebody much better in his next fight and gets punched in the dome before he can become the human nuisance again.
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
November 08 2009 05:27 GMT
#248
god if only it could've gone to 3 rounds with the next two being like the first. But that was a hell of a right hook.
"If you can chill..........then chill."
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
November 08 2009 05:40 GMT
#249
overeem is next for fedor? How many fights until his contract is up? Do you guys think ufc hws will go to strikeforce to fight fedor?
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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
November 08 2009 05:44 GMT
#250
oraaayt just finished watching the fedor fight. i thought rogers did a decent job in round one, that's the first time in a long time fedor's been hit like that. but man fedor is just wow. the guy just has really heavy hands man. amazing
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
November 08 2009 05:47 GMT
#251
On November 08 2009 14:40 AoN.DimSum wrote:
overeem is next for fedor? How many fights until his contract is up? Do you guys think ufc hws will go to strikeforce to fight fedor?


"Emelianenko will likely face Fabricio Werdum for a chance to challenge the missing-in-action Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem.

Assuming the title is not vacated first." - from mmamania

Fedor's translator was better than the previous one but she was not great, they can do better.

Also I was pissed at all the commercials until i checked the timing, Strikeforce was pushing the fight back so Spike's UFC premiere would end first. Some viewership stealing tactics.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 08 2009 05:49 GMT
#252
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ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
November 08 2009 05:53 GMT
#253
On November 08 2009 14:47 NoNameLoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2009 14:40 AoN.DimSum wrote:
overeem is next for fedor? How many fights until his contract is up? Do you guys think ufc hws will go to strikeforce to fight fedor?
.

Also I was pissed at all the commercials until i checked the timing, Strikeforce was pushing the fight back so Spike's UFC premiere would end first. Some viewership stealing tactics.


OH SICK point :O you're completely right
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
November 08 2009 06:44 GMT
#254
On November 08 2009 14:40 AoN.DimSum wrote:
overeem is next for fedor? How many fights until his contract is up? Do you guys think ufc hws will go to strikeforce to fight fedor?

If I remember correctly, Fedor has a 3 fight contract with Strikeforce. They need to kick that piece of shit Overeem out and just have Fedor fight Werdum for the belt. I seriously doubt any UFC HWs would move to Strikeforce, especially considering things are getting pretty competitive in the UFC HW division now.
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-08 07:05:46
November 08 2009 06:54 GMT
#255
I would not be surprised at alllll if Overeem refuses to fight in USA because he takes steroids (like, I bet he does take steroids)...

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This is him now.. I remember him being a looottt lankier.

Then again, that's him with a strikeforce belt and so he obviously looked like that last time he fought in USA. But damn.

Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
November 08 2009 07:03 GMT
#256
Is Overeem really that good? I always thought he just won in an easy division that strikeforce provides for heavyweights...
Dr.Lettuce
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United Kingdom663 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-08 07:46:22
November 08 2009 07:38 GMT
#257
Fedor is notorious for getting cut/bruised easily. But a broken nose is the worst injury to get early on. Not because it hurts or makes you dizzy. But because it seriously disrupts your breathing. Due to the nature of the injury, blood will backflow in to your own throat, and clog your nose up. Forcing you to breathe throught he mouth. First off this now forces you to think about breathing technique and rhythm instead of it coming naturally. And second off, opening your mouth makes you MUCH more suceptible to a KO.

Overeem is becoming an animal. He beat Aerts and Badr Hari in K-1. However he's been fighting cans recently for no real fucking reason.

However as coldlava said, Overeem will not pass a piss test. He's getting ridiculosly big and he has all the stereotype traits to prove it. His brother got busted for roids a while ago... all points to one thing imo. Theres a picture documenting his massive growth over the past 2 years... it's pretty telling really.

Brett impressed me with his sub defence a lot. He should work his ground and pound in the future. Brett was in a potential tight armbar, and he caught the leg with his other arm and rolled away. That was quite slick, seeing as Fedor caught Coleman x2 + Hong man with that. He also powered out of a Kimura from side-mount. Very nice. Brett vs Werdum would be a good fight actually.

Did anyone else notice strikeforce delibrately pushing it back so it was on after the UFC counter-programming? Maybe I'm looking in to it too much, but that's some clever work by the promoters.

I told you all Fedor beats people at their own game. He tko'd the bigger more powerful striker, whilst standing. Everyone was expecting G and P or a sub.

And food, shut up. You don't know a damn thing about MMA as you've clearly demonstrated. I'll happily call you out on everything you've said and make you look like an idiot. I genuinely get pissed off when people like you just claim to know everything about MMA and back it up with absoloutely fuck all.

Oh and just one more thing, I've trained sambo for a few years now. The thing Fedor is throwing is not an overhand right. It's a sambo technique called a casting punch. You throw it from the hips and it's more of an indirect hook, so that if it misses you still have power in the wrist or even forearm should it hit. The point of it is it's a very fast powerful punch, and it's PERFECT to follow up with any sort of sambo throw. Notice how in the first round Fedor followed it up with a left casting punch/underhook throw. Because it's easy to fake the hook, as they immediately block the head. The hook position goes in deep around the body, and has all your power behind it. I think more Mixed marital artists should really look sambo up, It's easily the best training I've ever done.
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
November 08 2009 08:03 GMT
#258
However as coldlava said, Overeem will not pass a piss test. He's getting ridiculosly big and he has all the stereotype traits to prove it. His brother got busted for roids a while ago... all points to one thing imo. Theres a picture documenting his massive growth over the past 2 years... it's pretty telling really.


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lol.. wow.
I know where my towel is.
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-08 08:17:41
November 08 2009 08:03 GMT
#259
(@Dr.Lettuce)

Wow dude I would love to hear more about your experiences in sambo. Like, if you see something in a fight you can relate it to an experience :O No wonder your posts are so good:D
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
November 08 2009 08:06 GMT
#260
On November 08 2009 14:49 udgnim wrote:
[image loading]


such a good picture
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