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Muffloe

Sweden6061 Posts

November 09 2015 00:51 GMT

#3161

The Buster is strong in this one

M2K look good tho, dat Marth

Spazer

Canada8036 Posts

November 09 2015 00:54 GMT

#3162

I don't even know what to say about that set. Damn.

Muffloe

Sweden6061 Posts

November 09 2015 00:56 GMT

#3163

Potential PPMD vs Mango, we haven't seen that for ages I think

weeeell, or that can happen :p

Spazer

Canada8036 Posts

November 09 2015 01:20 GMT

#3164

Ugh. He was so close too.

rabidch

United States20289 Posts

November 09 2015 01:40 GMT

#3165

another land of the free tournament for armada

Souma

2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts

November 09 2015 01:40 GMT

#3166

PPMD announced he's not going to DHW after losing to Plup.

Definitely the weakest of the top 6 atm.

Muffloe

Sweden6061 Posts

November 09 2015 01:48 GMT

#3167

Yh, it's probably best. One thing he could do is to go back to locals/smaller tournaments to get the feel back, I imagine it's rough doing comeback at the majors while he still might not feel fully good yet

Muffloe

Sweden6061 Posts

November 09 2015 02:04 GMT

#3168

That sequence from M2K with mr saturn :O

Souma

2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts

November 09 2015 02:24 GMT

#3169

Plup why'd you cut your hair ;;

Muffloe

Sweden6061 Posts

November 09 2015 02:37 GMT

#3170

If Armada wins again I wanna give him credit, but I also wanna say that he's avoided Leffen. And I have no idea if he's actually fixed his godslayer matchup. Just some food for thought

DarkPlasmaBall

United States46626 Posts

November 09 2015 02:43 GMT

#3171

This Mango vs. M2K rematch is much better than the first

rabidch

United States20289 Posts

November 09 2015 03:07 GMT

#3172

mango actually not looking like a buster now

DarkPlasmaBall

United States46626 Posts

November 09 2015 03:16 GMT

#3173

Grand finals is a nail biter, despite Mango getting 4-stocked one game lol

DarkPlasmaBall

United States46626 Posts

November 09 2015 03:21 GMT

#3174

That last stock omg gg wp.

rabidch

United States20289 Posts

November 09 2015 03:25 GMT

#3175

props to bts for hosting one of the funnest esports events i've watched in a long while

Souma

2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts

November 09 2015 03:30 GMT

#3176

Yeah that was pretty fun. As expected when you let Smashers just be Smashers.

jinyung2

Luxembourg1455 Posts

November 09 2015 06:32 GMT

#3177

On November 09 2015 11:37 Muffloe wrote:
If Armada wins again I wanna give him credit, but I also wanna say that he's avoided Leffen. And I have no idea if he's actually fixed his godslayer matchup. Just some food for thought

its not really that he's avoided leffen just that leffen keeps getting denied entry to the us right?

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

November 09 2015 10:16 GMT

#3178

On November 09 2015 07:17 Muffloe wrote:
I don't think Flaco'd be that good without decent tech, so Marth fsmash- spam all the way I'd say ^^

The shitter people get, the more powerful falco gets with the c-stick

]343[

United States10328 Posts

November 09 2015 11:52 GMT

#3179

Summit was decently well-done. Fun event to watch and lots of good matches. Hopefully they don't taint it with such a ridiculous voting system if they do it again.

Tipped Off had some problems with organization because some top players entered many events, and the Melee singles bracket had lots of ridiculous results, often due to "stronger" players hitting bad matchups.

Upsets:

Pools

Envy (Puff) > Ice
JSalt (?) > s0ft

Bracket

WR1:

Xif (Peach) > Wobbles
Drunksloth (ICs) > DruggedFox

WR2:

n0ne > Colbol
Gravy > Nintendude

LR4:

Iori (Peach?) > Nintendude

LR5:

Iori (DK???) > Over

WR3:

n0ne > DJ Nintendo

WR4:

n0ne > Professor Pro: great set.

Also, some notable almost-upsets that I happened to see:

Drephen vs Ice: Drephen took game 1 reasonably convincigly. Ice destroyed him in games 2 and 3.
Kaeon (Fox) vs Fly: Kaeon, who does well vs Dizzkidboogie in NY, gave Fly a real scare. Fly comboed into an actual wobble to win.

Other interesting results:

AKA "results in which I wouldn't have pegged the winner as a clear favorite":

WR2:

The Moon > Javi: The Moon continues to take sets off great spacies.
Wizzrobe > Over: Wizzy makes a case for being the best Falcon vs Sheik (he's probably still a bit behind S2J, but close). Over looked kind of lost.
Prof Pro > Fly: Prof continues to show how good he is vs ICs, while Fly is looking a bit rusty.

WR3:

ESAM > The Moon: The Moon continues to not know anything about mid/low-tier matchups.

LR4 (loser gets 17th):

Ice > Colbol: Colbol looked a little sloppy, but boy was Ice solid (ha, ha). Colbol getting 17th is sort of a big surprise, but his results tend to have quite a bit of variance.

LR5 (loser gets 13th):

Javi > Wobbles: Does Javi even have ICs practice??
DruggedFox > Ice: Ice, who imo is easily top 15 in the world, got 13th. Wow.

LR6 (loser gets 9th):

The Moon > Fly: Despite The Moon sucking vs mid-tiers, he's still somehow good vs ICs. ???

LR7 (loser gets 7th):

DruggedFox 3-1 The Moon: Not an upset, but notable because Moon is good vs Sheik, and DruggedFox doesn't have that many notable Marth wins yet.

LR8:

Javi 3-1 ESAM: Javi beats a Samus, avenging his Apex 2013 loss! (and loses a game as Sheik vs Fox)

Rest of tournament: DruggedFox wrecking fastfallers as usual.

Stock up:

DruggedFox: Scalped 3 Peaches, 3 Foxes, 3 [distinct] Falcons, and a Marth in losers en route to his title.
n0ne: wins over Colbol, DJ Nintendo, and Professor Pro are some of his best wins yet.
Iori: Nintendude and Over are really solid wins.
JSalt: dang dude, where'd you come from?

Stock slightly up:

Javi: beat Drephen, s0ft, Wobbles, JSalt (??), DJ, ESAM, lost to The Moon and DruggedFox. Lots of solid wins, but the only real doubts here were Wobbles and maaaaybe ESAM.
ESAM: Beat The Moon but got outclassed by Wizzy and Javi. Had a high placing with not many impressive wins.
XIF: I thought he retired or something, but then he beat Wobbles. Peach-ICs, but still.
Drunksloth: The Next Big ICs™ is being hyped up by Florida. His bracket record was W DruggedFox L ESAM L Wobbles, so we can't draw too many conclusions there, but DruggedFox is a good big-name win.
Gravy: Beat Nintendude, I guess.
Articanus: Not really a national threat (yet), but decent regionals wins (Flamin Roy, Een, Envy) en route to 17th.

Staying steady:

Wizzrobe: Over was his only really impressive win, and his millionth rematch with DruggedFox looked waaaay worse than usual.
Professor Pro: Good win vs Fly, bad loss vs n0ne, got wrecked by DruggedFox.
DJ Nintendo: meh. Beat .jpg, XIF, and Iori on his way to the least inspiring 7th place ever.
The Moon: good at the matchups he knows, bad at the rest. Apparently beat DruggedFox really bad in the one game he took, but lost 3 pretty close ones.

Stock slightly down:

s0ft: Pools loss was bad. Losing to Javi is ok I guess.
Fly Amanita: He's been taking a break, so he's clearly not at peak form. Professor Pro and The Moon are both good vs ICs, but Fly's definitely not at his 2014 top-15 level, as evidenced by his scare vs Kaeon (NC/NY Fox).

Stock down:
- Ice: Losing in pools to Puff... oof.
- Wobbles: Hopefully he'll start taking the game more seriously again?
- Nintendude: RIP
- Overtriforce: Bopped by Wizzy, then lost to Iori's DK? Oof.
- DruggedFox's ICs matchup: come on Sami you can do this. He even wrote about the ICs matchup and how he's feeling more confident about it lately, thanks to his strong shielddrop game. I didn't see the match, so I'll try not to judge until I can see it, but... a loss is a loss.
- ICs: Fly was the highest placing ICs player at the tournament at 9th. (Wobbles 13th, Nintendude and Drunksloth 17th, Sharkz 33rd). Very interesting that no ICs placed top 8 despite the volume of strong ICs players at the event.