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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 16 2015 02:20 GMT
#2921
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3h4m00/apparently_htc_is_also_covering_travel_and/

damn htc lol
TranslatorBaa!
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 16 2015 02:27 GMT
#2922
Yeah good shit.

PPMD please get out of your cave and go ;;
Writer
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 16 2015 15:50 GMT
#2923
nice nice nice HTC good shit
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 17 2015 17:27 GMT
#2924
After making this video, I was in a dark place mentally:

ModeratorGood content always wins.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-17 21:11:42
August 17 2015 21:11 GMT
#2925
wtf motbob

do you need help?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 17 2015 21:49 GMT
#2926
I could have used someone to talk to during the week I was pounding that video out, but I'm fine now.

My family was away and I was all alone taking care of the cats.

I ended up building improving my relationships with the cats by a lot, and I got the video done, so the week turned out to be great except for the whole depression thing.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 17 2015 22:17 GMT
#2927
out of interest what took longer:

the act of collecting the clips
or
editing the clips to be one video?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 17 2015 23:47 GMT
#2928
I dont know whether to be impressed or feel sorry for you, but well done regardless LOL
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 17 2015 23:55 GMT
#2929
LOL based motbob
Writer
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 18 2015 00:45 GMT
#2930
On August 18 2015 07:17 Targe wrote:
out of interest what took longer:

the act of collecting the clips
or
editing the clips to be one video?

u srs? Do you know how to use a search engine?

Unless by "collecting the clips" you mean editing the match video down to only the rests, in which case, I ask again, u srs?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 18 2015 01:25 GMT
#2931
On August 18 2015 09:45 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 07:17 Targe wrote:
out of interest what took longer:

the act of collecting the clips
or
editing the clips to be one video?

u srs? Do you know how to use a search engine?

Unless by "collecting the clips" you mean editing the match video down to only the rests, in which case, I ask again, u srs?

uwot

youd still have to find every hbox clip, that takes time doesn it?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 18 2015 01:31 GMT
#2932
On August 18 2015 10:25 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 09:45 motbob wrote:
On August 18 2015 07:17 Targe wrote:
out of interest what took longer:

the act of collecting the clips
or
editing the clips to be one video?

u srs? Do you know how to use a search engine?

Unless by "collecting the clips" you mean editing the match video down to only the rests, in which case, I ask again, u srs?

uwot

youd still have to find every hbox clip, that takes time doesn it?

Not really, "hungrybox|hbox [year]" in youtube did the trick pretty well. Jdownloader 2 (Beta) is a great program for that sort of thing if you ever need to do it in the future.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
August 18 2015 02:18 GMT
#2933
Motbob you are a hero.
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 19:38:53
August 18 2015 19:38 GMT
#2934
http://www.meleeitonme.com/ssbmrank2015t25p5/

Putting PP and Mango above Hbox for 2015 performance is criminal. Should've been Armada/Leffen > Hbox for top 3.
TranslatorBaa!
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 18 2015 20:14 GMT
#2935
Agreed. ;/
Writer
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
August 18 2015 20:27 GMT
#2936
On August 19 2015 04:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
http://www.meleeitonme.com/ssbmrank2015t25p5/

Putting PP and Mango above Hbox for 2015 performance is criminal. Should've been Armada/Leffen > Hbox for top 3.

Before EVO this would have been a ridiculous statement. It's only because of EVO that Mango < Hbox is even arguable. And I still think the argument is weak.

PPMD can be placed anywhere from 3-5. There's so little data to go on. To say it's "criminal" that Hbox isn't above PPMD is to say that you know for a fact where PPMD would have placed if he went to more tournaments.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 20:37:37
August 18 2015 20:37 GMT
#2937
It's a power rank, lack of data should work against a person. You have to give credit to Hbox for placing as consistently as he did in so many tournaments. Not to mention Hbox 3-0'd him (PPMD) at EVO after beating Leffen, Mang0 and Plup (who beat Mang0 and Leffen).

As for Mang0, there's an argument to be made, but just watching Mang0 play at times makes me cry.
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 21:07:48
August 18 2015 21:05 GMT
#2938
If anything, they could do shared spot for pee pee and hbox, or even pee pee hbox and mango, as in 3-5 pp mango hbox, no order. Actually, if anything I feel like Mango is the least likely out of these to take a set off of Armada/Leffen

Kinda clear to me that M2K - Hbox/PP/Mango - Leffen - Armada
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-18 21:24:46
August 18 2015 21:20 GMT
#2939
On August 19 2015 06:05 Muffloe wrote:
If anything, they could do shared spot for pee pee and hbox, or even pee pee hbox and mango, as in 3-5 pp mango hbox, no order. Actually, if anything I feel like Mango is the least likely out of these to take a set off of Armada/Leffen

Kinda clear to me that M2K - Hbox/PP/Mango - Leffen - Armada


Leffen Armada is an interesting case, because the most recent results we have show Leffen is dominant over Armada, but is weaker than Armada against people "worse" than them.

On August 19 2015 05:27 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 04:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
http://www.meleeitonme.com/ssbmrank2015t25p5/

Putting PP and Mango above Hbox for 2015 performance is criminal. Should've been Armada/Leffen > Hbox for top 3.

Before EVO this would have been a ridiculous statement. It's only because of EVO that Mango < Hbox is even arguable. And I still think the argument is weak.

PPMD can be placed anywhere from 3-5. There's so little data to go on. To say it's "criminal" that Hbox isn't above PPMD is to say that you know for a fact where PPMD would have placed if he went to more tournaments.


I disagree. Not having data should, as Souma said, be a clear mark against you. The inherent value of rankings aside, if rankings exist, they should be based on what happened, not what could've happened. By observed results, Hungrybox has performed better than PP.

Not sure why "Before EVO this would have been a ridiculous statement." is a relevant observation. EVO obviously happened, so what does it matter what the ranking would've looked like before EVO for this discussion?
TranslatorBaa!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 18 2015 21:34 GMT
#2940
as long as it goes armada > leffen > mango > pp > hbox

im fine with how the top 5 turns out
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