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On August 22 2009 05:06 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 04:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler. But they don't. They're not allowed to compete together for that reason. Some sports are excluded for male advantage, some are excluded for female advantage. The difference in upper body strength is mitigated by much better flexibility and better leverage. Actually, I believe the biggest advantage men have over women is simply height, not muscle composition. Durability is worse for females (the number of ligament tears for women is ridiculously high compared to male athletes) though.
Yeah. its definitely the height. And men aren't felxible. (leverage?)
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On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler.
lol where did you get that last tidbit from... that's completely false. I mean wrestling is divided by weight divisions and pound for pound a man will be stronger because a female has a butt/boobs and more excess weight that isn't muscle. I did high school wrestling and the few girls who did it were never very good at all.
Semenya doesn't appear to be very feminine but I guess that doesn't mean she's a man. Maybe she's just a masculine chick in which case I'm glad she can have success with athletics because I'm sure other parts of her life suffer.
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So why have sports events for women at all? Because supporting female athletes is a laudable goal.
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On August 22 2009 07:23 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler. lol where did you get that last tidbit from... that's completely false. I mean wrestling is divided by weight divisions and pound for pound a man will be stronger because a female has a butt/boobs and more excess weight that isn't muscle. I did high school wrestling and the few girls who did it were never very good at all.
The biggest strength advantage is upper body, which isn't as important, since wrestling isn't a lifting competition. Women should always be able to get inside control in a normal stance because they can bring their arms together, men can't. Try touching your elbows together in front of your body (with your arms sticking out), and ask a woman in your house to do it. That's a huge advantage. It'd probably allow them to be a good offensive lineman as well.
I can't speak to why the girls at your school sucked, but my guess is it had more to do with training and social conditions (not being as competitive, or not being taught at a young age) more than physiological ability.
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It seems some sources are saying that they found HER birth certificate, which claims shes a FEMALE. (At birth. ;O)
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Jibba, what is this politically correct nonsense of yours? I want you to show me proof in any sport requiring physical exertion that a woman can compete with a man. I'm not talking about amateurs here, I'm talking at the highest level. I challenge you to show me any sport, even one, where a woman can compete with men at the highest level. You think height is the only factor that gives men the advantage? Are you pretending to be ignorant? Women cannot even touch men when it comes to physical sports. It's not even close.
"Women have the same lower body strength as men". Yeah I've heard that trash before as well. If that's the case, why don't women have any records in weight lifting that compare to men? Get your facts straight before you tell me not to post because I challenge your flawed worldview where women and men are one in the same. There's nothing wrong with women being physically weaker than men, it's just a reality. How can you challenge that?
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On August 22 2009 09:11 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 07:23 Jonoman92 wrote:On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler. lol where did you get that last tidbit from... that's completely false. I mean wrestling is divided by weight divisions and pound for pound a man will be stronger because a female has a butt/boobs and more excess weight that isn't muscle. I did high school wrestling and the few girls who did it were never very good at all. The biggest strength advantage is upper body, which isn't as important, since wrestling isn't a lifting competition. Women should always be able to get inside control in a normal stance because they can bring their arms together, men can't. Try touching your elbows together in front of your body (with your arms sticking out), and ask a woman in your house to do it. That's a huge advantage. It'd probably allow them to be a good offensive lineman as well. I can't speak to why the girls at your school sucked, but my guess is it had more to do with training and social conditions (not being as competitive, or not being taught at a young age) more than physiological ability.
Are you serious? I wrestled for 6 years, 4 being in High School. I can tell you two things. Wrestling is mostly technical, but in a match against a girl, the girl will more often than not lose the vast majority because the sheer disadavantage of muscle tissue and strength. Women genetically have near double the fat content as men. Why do you think men can lift 500+ lbs and no women can do that without abusing steroids (I'm not even sure even with abuse they can). Strength does play a huge role in wrestling. Try getting out from bottom position being a female. Isn't going to happen. When I played all the female wrestlers I saw sucked ass precisely because of strength reasoning.
You do know genetically there are vast differences between men and women and this is why sports are seperated between men and women. I'd love to see a women try and play football, hockey, or baseball with men. They would get creamed figuratively of course.
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On August 22 2009 09:11 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 07:23 Jonoman92 wrote:On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler. lol where did you get that last tidbit from... that's completely false. I mean wrestling is divided by weight divisions and pound for pound a man will be stronger because a female has a butt/boobs and more excess weight that isn't muscle. I did high school wrestling and the few girls who did it were never very good at all. The biggest strength advantage is upper body, which isn't as important, since wrestling isn't a lifting competition. Women should always be able to get inside control in a normal stance because they can bring their arms together, men can't. Try touching your elbows together in front of your body (with your arms sticking out), and ask a woman in your house to do it. That's a huge advantage. It'd probably allow them to be a good offensive lineman as well. I can't speak to why the girls at your school sucked, but my guess is it had more to do with training and social conditions (not being as competitive, or not being taught at a young age) more than physiological ability.
Dude stop trying to make excuses for the time that girl pinned you. If you stop talking about it maybe people will forget.
edit: you're retarded lol
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On August 22 2009 22:33 Eniram wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 09:11 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 07:23 Jonoman92 wrote:On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler. lol where did you get that last tidbit from... that's completely false. I mean wrestling is divided by weight divisions and pound for pound a man will be stronger because a female has a butt/boobs and more excess weight that isn't muscle. I did high school wrestling and the few girls who did it were never very good at all. The biggest strength advantage is upper body, which isn't as important, since wrestling isn't a lifting competition. Women should always be able to get inside control in a normal stance because they can bring their arms together, men can't. Try touching your elbows together in front of your body (with your arms sticking out), and ask a woman in your house to do it. That's a huge advantage. It'd probably allow them to be a good offensive lineman as well. I can't speak to why the girls at your school sucked, but my guess is it had more to do with training and social conditions (not being as competitive, or not being taught at a young age) more than physiological ability. Dude stop trying to make excuses for the time that girl pinned you. If you stop talking about it maybe people will forget. edit: you're retarded lol
i dont get what you are saying. pound for pound, men are stronger as they have more muscle % and women are more fatty. also, its not just strength that is a weaker aspect. ever seen a female soccer match? they lack alot of control and coordination, i dont know how to explain this in terms of physique though
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In terms of physical/athletic power, women are roughly equivalent to 14 year old boys. This is based on comparing records from various athletic activities.
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Saying that men are inherently better than women at most if not all athletics can't even be considered sexism. It's more or less a fact.
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Apparently, recent sources have indicated that she/he is a hermaphrodite (part male, part female) @.@
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You think Korean pro's sacrificed a lot? Apparently these women sacrifice their gender as well as everything else to be that good. When was the last time you heard of some guy cutting off his wang to play Starcraft better.
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That must suck for her. If she was raised a girl and there was this much testing needed she obviously doesn't have the physical male characteristics. Must be very humiliating to believe you're a woman and have your self image shattered in the world news while being stripped of a medal. Obv she should still continue her life as if she's a woman because physically she is, it's when you start doing extensive tests she becomes other which gets grouped with men.
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On August 22 2009 09:11 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 07:23 Jonoman92 wrote:On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler. lol where did you get that last tidbit from... that's completely false. I mean wrestling is divided by weight divisions and pound for pound a man will be stronger because a female has a butt/boobs and more excess weight that isn't muscle. I did high school wrestling and the few girls who did it were never very good at all. The biggest strength advantage is upper body, which isn't as important, since wrestling isn't a lifting competition. Women should always be able to get inside control in a normal stance because they can bring their arms together, men can't. Try touching your elbows together in front of your body (with your arms sticking out), and ask a woman in your house to do it. That's a huge advantage. It'd probably allow them to be a good offensive lineman as well.I can't speak to why the girls at your school sucked, but my guess is it had more to do with training and social conditions (not being as competitive, or not being taught at a young age) more than physiological ability.
lol WHAT?! Yes, because linemen are all about elbow flexibility.
jesus =\
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On August 22 2009 22:31 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 09:11 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 07:23 Jonoman92 wrote:On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler. lol where did you get that last tidbit from... that's completely false. I mean wrestling is divided by weight divisions and pound for pound a man will be stronger because a female has a butt/boobs and more excess weight that isn't muscle. I did high school wrestling and the few girls who did it were never very good at all. The biggest strength advantage is upper body, which isn't as important, since wrestling isn't a lifting competition. Women should always be able to get inside control in a normal stance because they can bring their arms together, men can't. Try touching your elbows together in front of your body (with your arms sticking out), and ask a woman in your house to do it. That's a huge advantage. It'd probably allow them to be a good offensive lineman as well. I can't speak to why the girls at your school sucked, but my guess is it had more to do with training and social conditions (not being as competitive, or not being taught at a young age) more than physiological ability. Are you serious? I wrestled for 6 years, 4 being in High School. I can tell you two things. Wrestling is mostly technical, but in a match against a girl, the girl will more often than not lose the vast majority because the sheer disadavantage of muscle tissue and strength. Women genetically have near double the fat content as men. Why do you think men can lift 500+ lbs and no women can do that without abusing steroids (I'm not even sure even with abuse they can). Strength does play a huge role in wrestling. Try getting out from bottom position being a female. Isn't going to happen. When I played all the female wrestlers I saw sucked ass precisely because of strength reasoning. You do know genetically there are vast differences between men and women and this is why sports are seperated between men and women. I'd love to see a women try and play football, hockey, or baseball with men. They would get creamed figuratively of course.
Hayley Wickenheiser
"In 2003, Wickenheiser became the first woman to score a goal playing in a men's professional league. Over the course of the season, Wickenheiser played 23 games, scoring 2 goals and adding 10 assists." from Wikipedia.
It's been done, but I wonder if there'll ever be mixed professional leagues in any physical sport. We're not likely going to see a woman show up and KO Floyd Mayweather anytime soon.
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On September 11 2009 08:34 ][-][eretic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 22:31 Aegraen wrote:On August 22 2009 09:11 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 07:23 Jonoman92 wrote:On August 22 2009 03:25 Jibba wrote:On August 22 2009 03:22 2b-Rigtheous wrote:
Not that it wasn't obvious already, but women just can't even remotely compete with men in sports. It's laughable. I hate it when feminists say Men and Women are the same. If that's the case, then what's the problem with her looking like a man? You should stop posting before you reveal any more of your stupidity. All of your sentences are just wrong. BTW, pound for pound, a female wrestler should beat a male wrestler. lol where did you get that last tidbit from... that's completely false. I mean wrestling is divided by weight divisions and pound for pound a man will be stronger because a female has a butt/boobs and more excess weight that isn't muscle. I did high school wrestling and the few girls who did it were never very good at all. The biggest strength advantage is upper body, which isn't as important, since wrestling isn't a lifting competition. Women should always be able to get inside control in a normal stance because they can bring their arms together, men can't. Try touching your elbows together in front of your body (with your arms sticking out), and ask a woman in your house to do it. That's a huge advantage. It'd probably allow them to be a good offensive lineman as well. I can't speak to why the girls at your school sucked, but my guess is it had more to do with training and social conditions (not being as competitive, or not being taught at a young age) more than physiological ability. Are you serious? I wrestled for 6 years, 4 being in High School. I can tell you two things. Wrestling is mostly technical, but in a match against a girl, the girl will more often than not lose the vast majority because the sheer disadavantage of muscle tissue and strength. Women genetically have near double the fat content as men. Why do you think men can lift 500+ lbs and no women can do that without abusing steroids (I'm not even sure even with abuse they can). Strength does play a huge role in wrestling. Try getting out from bottom position being a female. Isn't going to happen. When I played all the female wrestlers I saw sucked ass precisely because of strength reasoning. You do know genetically there are vast differences between men and women and this is why sports are seperated between men and women. I'd love to see a women try and play football, hockey, or baseball with men. They would get creamed figuratively of course. Hayley Wickenheiser "In 2003, Wickenheiser became the first woman to score a goal playing in a men's professional league. Over the course of the season, Wickenheiser played 23 games, scoring 2 goals and adding 10 assists." from Wikipedia. It's been done, but I wonder if there'll ever be mixed professional leagues in any physical sport. We're not likely going to see a woman show up and KO Floyd Mayweather anytime soon.
+ Show Spoiler +In 2003, Wickenheiser became the first woman to score a goal playing in a men's professional league. Over the course of the season, Wickenheiser played 23 games, scoring 2 goals and adding 10 assists.[2][4][5] Wickenheiser joined a European league to play professional hockey, as the game is more open and less physical than North American leagues. This attempt to play professional hockey was not an entirely smooth process, as Wickenheiser was initially slated to play in Italy, until the Italian Winter Sports Federation ruled that women were ineligible to play in a men's league. She also turned down an offer from Phil Esposito to play for the Cincinnati Cyclones of the ECHL. Finland's Hockey Federation unanimously supported letting women play in a men's league, allowing her to debut with HC Salamat in the Suomi-sarja, the third highest hockey league in Finland, on January 10, 2003.[6] Wickenheiser played briefly with Salamat in 2004. They had won promotion to Mestis, Finland's second tier of professional hockey, and this was not as good a fit for her. She left the team after ten games.
In 2007, Wickenheiser had a week-long tryout contract with Swedish club IFK Arboga IK in the Swedish male third league. After two practice games, where Wickenheiser scored two goals in the first game, she was not offered a contract.[7] In 2008, Wickenheiser signed a one year contract with Eskilstuna Linden, also in the Swedish men's third league.[8][9]
She didn't play in the NHL, she played in some European league. That's like tossgirl coming and winning a foreign tourney.
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