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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-05 22:21:35
May 05 2009 22:18 GMT
#61
I find some of this funny cause Bisu just did a ceremony yesterday.... more would be great, but I think the lack of ceremonies from FBH may have a bit more to do with his recent performance.

If he returns to form, may see some more. Just, even he wouldn't do a ceremony when he's slumping, you know?
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
May 05 2009 22:25 GMT
#62
I miss all of the ceremonies.
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 05 2009 23:01 GMT
#63
this reminds me of a 2v2 game nal_ra played a while back. 20 sec into the game, he "accidentally" (no one knows for sure) paused the game (perhaps because the p hotkey, and he hit f10 by accident?) or he paused on purpose because of a bad split? either way, he was instantly DQ'ed, and even the other team seemed pretty pissed.
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-05 23:03:59
May 05 2009 23:01 GMT
#64
On May 06 2009 07:18 errol1001 wrote:
I find some of this funny cause Bisu just did a ceremony yesterday.... more would be great, but I think the lack of ceremonies from FBH may have a bit more to do with his recent performance.

If he returns to form, may see some more. Just, even he wouldn't do a ceremony when he's slumping, you know?


And notice how surprised a lot of people were by it - I'm so happy to see T1 are actually doing some active ceremonies these days. However, if you look at the vast majority of games being played recently a massive percentage of them end in either only a bow or a very small/repetative ceremony such as players holding up a sign (KTF.) or making small gestures (Hwaseung OZ.) I'm basing my comments upon what I've observed at Proleague mainly - it's not just FBH who isn't acting in the same manner they used to. (I need to watch that VOD - Bisu's singing is terrible so hopefully his dancing makes up for it lol!)
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
May 05 2009 23:17 GMT
#65
Bisu did the Sorry Sorry dance with Doctor.K, and Boxer joined them late
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
May 06 2009 00:05 GMT
#66
I think instances of cheating or unfair play would damage the esport more than being a little strict ever will. I don't mind it - I think it indicates growth.
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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
May 06 2009 00:08 GMT
#67
nice writeup %_%
hope those k3spa dudes read
the throws never bothered me anyway
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
May 06 2009 00:15 GMT
#68
That's true, it's just funny that the second you make the post..
SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
May 06 2009 00:35 GMT
#69
"Offensive" ceremonies have been banned, but asides from the crotchthrusting of FBH or similar other BM ceremonies, I don't quite see how that correlates necessarily to a loss of fun in professional starcraft.

Although of course, this depends on the question: how offensive is "offensive", according to Kespa? Rock's jump didn't seem like it'd be offensive in any respect, but is that kind of ceremony covered under the ban?
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-06 00:43:15
May 06 2009 00:36 GMT
#70
On May 06 2009 08:17 konadora wrote:
Bisu did the Sorry Sorry dance with Doctor.K, and Boxer joined them late


(Hahahaha I'm a big Super Junior fan.) I have to see this - it sounds wonderfully odd (especially the combination of people involved!)

@errol1001 - Yeah, talk about weird timing. I'm just so glad at least one of the teams is breaking out of the cycle of lacklustre (or indeed totally absent ceremonies.) Hopefully we'll see more displays of personality and fun at events in the future instead of all these depressing complications and incidents.

우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
May 06 2009 02:20 GMT
#71
LOL me and my friends are trying to learn that dance for grad.
I will make it my goal to destroy bisu in something because it's definetly not gonna happen in starcraft
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
May 06 2009 02:30 GMT
#72
Nice read!!! Thanks!!! I mean no more ceremonies seem a bit dull now and KESPA being too strict with some rules, but I guess basically how life goes and all. It's reality and no one can really do about unless some magical major power forces appear to change the laws of Starcraft completely..... But yea, to me, it just seem this is yet another end and start of a new chapter. Another process they have to go through and though not the final one to create Starcraft as a professional sport it deserves compared to soccer, baseball and basketball.... but imagine if Starcraft was an e-sport here in America too... wonder what will happen then...
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 06 2009 02:35 GMT
#73
oh christ i facepalme'd so hard at the first ceremony link
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 06 2009 03:09 GMT
#74
On May 05 2009 21:35 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote:
tbh i support KesPa ( flamed to death )

im not writing the reasons, but i support it =/

Why not write the reasons?

If you're not going to at least say why than there isn't any point in posting about it.

Might as well wait for the damn poll.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-06 03:47:52
May 06 2009 03:45 GMT
#75
zeus did ceremonies before fbh, though otherwise good writeup?

edit: at least to my recollection he was known for cockiness long before fbh was, and i thought i remembered some ceremonies... could be wrong though
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
May 06 2009 03:53 GMT
#76
On May 06 2009 12:45 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
zeus did ceremonies before fbh, though otherwise good writeup?

edit: at least to my recollection he was known for cockiness long before fbh was, and i thought i remembered some ceremonies... could be wrong though


Yeah - that's why I included him in the ceremonies video section because he's so well known for his 2v2 and solo ceremonies. I guess you could say he is FBH's ancestor in terms of bringing fun and eccentric ceremonies to the fans. Sadly now he's moved into coaching he doesn't do them anymore (I miss his dancing!)
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
May 06 2009 05:52 GMT
#77
anyone else see the bullshit in the Detroit and Ducks game?
same shit different league in my opinion
Megrim
Profile Joined May 2007
Australia60 Posts
May 06 2009 06:40 GMT
#78
On May 06 2009 09:35 SerpentFlame wrote:
"Offensive" ceremonies have been banned, but asides from the crotchthrusting of FBH or similar other BM ceremonies, I don't quite see how that correlates necessarily to a loss of fun in professional starcraft.

Although of course, this depends on the question: how offensive is "offensive", according to Kespa? Rock's jump didn't seem like it'd be offensive in any respect, but is that kind of ceremony covered under the ban?


Firebathero should have dressed up as Hard Gay under his uniform, ripped off his clothes after winning, and THEN crotch-thrusted his way around the stage. Hooooooooooooooo!

All so we could watch the heads of the Korean audience explode.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
May 06 2009 12:14 GMT
#79
Sick article, can't believe I didn't just TL:DR it and read it all :D.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
May 06 2009 16:25 GMT
#80
please get rid of the offensive ceremony rules ^^
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