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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
January 11 2009 03:49 GMT
#41
Definitely a player to watch~

Good read good read~
this is my quote.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
January 11 2009 04:10 GMT
#42
He has defeated the likes of BeSt, Bisu, Stork


Some of those wins were from one year ago, and his TvP is not where near the level of Flash and Mind.
Fairly recent is a terrible term. You are just padding his accomplishments, he still has yet to beat a top Protoss player(any of the "Dragons") since late 2008 during the Protoss resurgence.
I liked Leta since his performance in the last proleague, but he needs to win a star league or come close at least, or become classified as another guy with "Sea syndrome."
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
January 11 2009 04:12 GMT
#43
This has to be the most repetitive write-up I've ever read.

Leta's good though, no doubt.
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Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
January 11 2009 04:13 GMT
#44
Even before this, I've been keeping an eye on Leta. His results are real, but there are many people that give positive results.

Still waiting for him to take a league title, or anything close to final appearance.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2009 04:14 GMT
#45
On January 11 2009 13:10 bubblegumbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
He has defeated the likes of BeSt, Bisu, Stork


Some of those wins were from one year ago, and his TvP is not where near the level of Flash and Mind.
Fairly recent is a terrible term. You are just padding his accomplishments, he still has yet to beat a top Protoss player(any of the "Dragons") since late 2008 during the Protoss resurgence.
I liked Leta since his performance in the last proleague, but he needs to win a star league or come close at least, or become classified as another guy with "Sea syndrome."


1. I never compared his TvP to FlaSh or Mind, I admit his TvP is his weakest matchup.

2. No he hasn't beaten the dragons, but his TvT/TvZ is so Gosu he's made it past any of them in the Proleague rankings minus BeSt (who have the same amounts of wins to losses, as far as the R&S threads most recent update.

3.I agree with the statement that he must prove himself in a StarLeague. My point in the article is that he's no longer just some "New faced rookie", his performance in PL is wayyyyyyy too gosu for that. But he isn't a champion or a legend yet. He needs to live up to the hype.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2009 04:15 GMT
#46
On January 11 2009 13:12 EscPlan9 wrote:
This has to be the most repetitive write-up I've ever read.

Leta's good though, no doubt.


Yeah, it's not the best write-up I've done. There isn't as much to say about Leta as I wish there was, but I really wanted to write about him since his play has been exciting me.

I'm really pumped to see how he'll do in the individual leagues this season.
RIP Aaliyah
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 11 2009 04:27 GMT
#47
On January 11 2009 13:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2009 13:12 EscPlan9 wrote:
This has to be the most repetitive write-up I've ever read.

Leta's good though, no doubt.


Yeah, it's not the best write-up I've done. There isn't as much to say about Leta as I wish there was, but I really wanted to write about him since his play has been exciting me.

I'm really pumped to see how he'll do in the individual leagues this season.


yeah... ultimately, no matter how good this article may be, it ultimately falls under a "hype" thread... perhaps waiting a bit till after the individual league results came in would have been more fruitful, if not deserved.

whatevvssss im pretty sure articles like this fall under an editorial process so if the staff is cool with it then cool.
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
January 11 2009 04:30 GMT
#48
This is cool and all, but Flash is just way better

Ive already expressed my opinions on Leta in the PR, I like him and I think hes good, definitely top 5 terran at the moment, but he still has alot to prove in individuals and vs protoss to be comparable to LYH. Matchupwise he is comparable to FBH(FBH too busted out with sick TvT play early in his career), but I think they have different styles - Letas unit-positioning really makes him unique.

Thanks for the article, good work DH
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2009 04:32 GMT
#49
On January 11 2009 13:27 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2009 13:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:12 EscPlan9 wrote:
This has to be the most repetitive write-up I've ever read.

Leta's good though, no doubt.


Yeah, it's not the best write-up I've done. There isn't as much to say about Leta as I wish there was, but I really wanted to write about him since his play has been exciting me.

I'm really pumped to see how he'll do in the individual leagues this season.


yeah... ultimately, no matter how good this article may be, it ultimately falls under a "hype" thread... perhaps waiting a bit till after the individual league results came in would have been more fruitful, if not deserved.

whatevvssss im pretty sure articles like this fall under an editorial process so if the staff is cool with it then cool.


The point of the article wasn't to call Leta a starleague champion. It's one part hype and one part speculation. He has certainly risen above your average Proleague winner, his status in the proleague isn't "good" it's complete domination.

But he's not a legend yet, and that's something that needs to play itself out.

Most TLFE's that I have seen are just cool little expose's on a player, rather than cold analysis.

Yeah there is an editorial process, if the writing staff didn't feel it was good enough it wouldn't be here.

I admit I'm not the best writer ever, but hopefully as I write more articles my skills will improve! I have a few ideas, and since I seem to get a lot of negative response I'll try a bit harder. :/
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2009 04:34 GMT
#50
On January 11 2009 13:30 Guybrush wrote:
This is cool and all, but Flash is just way better

Ive already expressed my opinions on Leta in the PR, I like him and I think hes good, definitely top 5 terran at the moment, but he still has alot to prove in individuals and vs protoss to be comparable to LYH. Matchupwise he is comparable to FBH(FBH too busted out with sick TvT play early in his career), but I think they have different styles - Letas unit-positioning really makes him unique.

Thanks for the article, good work DH


Oh yeah. In my honest opinion, FlaSh is the best player alive, and no one even comes close to his current or potential skill level.

His TvP is certainly better than Firebathero's, it isn't bad. It's just the match-up he seems to have the most difficulty with (no surprise considering the current map pool, and the caliber of top protosses out there).

He's still young, and whether or not he rises to the hype is completely up for speculation. I think he will, his Proleague stats are too impressive to just be another Sea.
RIP Aaliyah
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 11 2009 04:34 GMT
#51
Very nicely written article.

I still think Leta needs to prove a little more for him to truly live up to all the hype over this forum

And I just realized that SkyHigh is another player similar to Leta, who is absolutely incredible (except TvZ I guess).
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2009 04:36 GMT
#52
On January 11 2009 13:34 Cambium wrote:
Very nicely written article.

I still think Leta needs to prove a little more for him to truly live up to all the hype over this forum

And I just realized that SkyHigh is another player similar to Leta, who is absolutely incredible (except TvZ I guess).


Yeah, but his record certainly bodes well for the future.

SkyHigh has been really impressive lately. CJ Entus has a terran that can play now! I'm happy.
RIP Aaliyah
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 11 2009 04:39 GMT
#53
On January 11 2009 13:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2009 13:27 d_so wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:12 EscPlan9 wrote:
This has to be the most repetitive write-up I've ever read.

Leta's good though, no doubt.


Yeah, it's not the best write-up I've done. There isn't as much to say about Leta as I wish there was, but I really wanted to write about him since his play has been exciting me.

I'm really pumped to see how he'll do in the individual leagues this season.


yeah... ultimately, no matter how good this article may be, it ultimately falls under a "hype" thread... perhaps waiting a bit till after the individual league results came in would have been more fruitful, if not deserved.

whatevvssss im pretty sure articles like this fall under an editorial process so if the staff is cool with it then cool.


The point of the article wasn't to call Leta a starleague champion. It's one part hype and one part speculation. He has certainly risen above your average Proleague winner, his status in the proleague isn't "good" it's complete domination.

But he's not a legend yet, and that's something that needs to play itself out.

Most TLFE's that I have seen are just cool little expose's on a player, rather than cold analysis.

Yeah there is an editorial process, if the writing staff didn't feel it was good enough it wouldn't be here.

I admit I'm not the best writer ever, but hopefully as I write more articles my skills will improve! I have a few ideas, and since I seem to get a lot of negative response I'll try a bit harder. :/


dont get me wrong. im not dissing your writing, and though i believe everyone has room to improve, i'm not going to take a shit on someone who put a quantifiable amount of effort to contribute to the site. though ive only been on this site for a year or so, i like it; and i like it when people help make it better.

maybe you could be open to editing the article pending on the upcoming individual league results? I'm not saying that you have to take back any of your sentiments or anything like that... but i think most leta fans, if there's gonna be a coronation, want the coronation to be deserved so we don't have to hear shit from other fanboys yaknow? so maybe... if he does win osl/msl... you can update this and be like WHATS UP MOTHERFUCKERS LETA OWNS.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 11 2009 04:41 GMT
#54
On January 11 2009 13:39 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2009 13:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:27 d_so wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:12 EscPlan9 wrote:
This has to be the most repetitive write-up I've ever read.

Leta's good though, no doubt.


Yeah, it's not the best write-up I've done. There isn't as much to say about Leta as I wish there was, but I really wanted to write about him since his play has been exciting me.

I'm really pumped to see how he'll do in the individual leagues this season.


yeah... ultimately, no matter how good this article may be, it ultimately falls under a "hype" thread... perhaps waiting a bit till after the individual league results came in would have been more fruitful, if not deserved.

whatevvssss im pretty sure articles like this fall under an editorial process so if the staff is cool with it then cool.


The point of the article wasn't to call Leta a starleague champion. It's one part hype and one part speculation. He has certainly risen above your average Proleague winner, his status in the proleague isn't "good" it's complete domination.

But he's not a legend yet, and that's something that needs to play itself out.

Most TLFE's that I have seen are just cool little expose's on a player, rather than cold analysis.

Yeah there is an editorial process, if the writing staff didn't feel it was good enough it wouldn't be here.

I admit I'm not the best writer ever, but hopefully as I write more articles my skills will improve! I have a few ideas, and since I seem to get a lot of negative response I'll try a bit harder. :/


dont get me wrong. im not dissing your writing, and though i believe everyone has room to improve, i'm not going to take a shit on someone who put a quantifiable amount of effort to contribute to the site. though ive only been on this site for a year or so, i like it; and i like it when people help make it better.

maybe you could be open to editing the article pending on the upcoming individual league results? I'm not saying that you have to take back any of your sentiments or anything like that... but i think most leta fans, if there's gonna be a coronation, want the coronation to be deserved so we don't have to hear shit from other fanboys yaknow? so maybe... if he does win osl/msl... you can update this and be like WHATS UP MOTHERFUCKERS LETA OWNS.


Oh I know, but I'm pretty critical of myself. Which is a positive thing tbh, it just means I'll improve very quickly.

No, it's called Final Edit for a reason. This FE is not about Leta the StarLeague Champion it is about Leta the Proleague Badass and Potential StarLeague champion.
RIP Aaliyah
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 11 2009 04:42 GMT
#55
On January 11 2009 13:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2009 13:39 d_so wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:27 d_so wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 11 2009 13:12 EscPlan9 wrote:
This has to be the most repetitive write-up I've ever read.

Leta's good though, no doubt.


Yeah, it's not the best write-up I've done. There isn't as much to say about Leta as I wish there was, but I really wanted to write about him since his play has been exciting me.

I'm really pumped to see how he'll do in the individual leagues this season.


yeah... ultimately, no matter how good this article may be, it ultimately falls under a "hype" thread... perhaps waiting a bit till after the individual league results came in would have been more fruitful, if not deserved.

whatevvssss im pretty sure articles like this fall under an editorial process so if the staff is cool with it then cool.


The point of the article wasn't to call Leta a starleague champion. It's one part hype and one part speculation. He has certainly risen above your average Proleague winner, his status in the proleague isn't "good" it's complete domination.

But he's not a legend yet, and that's something that needs to play itself out.

Most TLFE's that I have seen are just cool little expose's on a player, rather than cold analysis.

Yeah there is an editorial process, if the writing staff didn't feel it was good enough it wouldn't be here.

I admit I'm not the best writer ever, but hopefully as I write more articles my skills will improve! I have a few ideas, and since I seem to get a lot of negative response I'll try a bit harder. :/


dont get me wrong. im not dissing your writing, and though i believe everyone has room to improve, i'm not going to take a shit on someone who put a quantifiable amount of effort to contribute to the site. though ive only been on this site for a year or so, i like it; and i like it when people help make it better.

maybe you could be open to editing the article pending on the upcoming individual league results? I'm not saying that you have to take back any of your sentiments or anything like that... but i think most leta fans, if there's gonna be a coronation, want the coronation to be deserved so we don't have to hear shit from other fanboys yaknow? so maybe... if he does win osl/msl... you can update this and be like WHATS UP MOTHERFUCKERS LETA OWNS.


Oh I know, but I'm pretty critical of myself. Which is a positive thing tbh, it just means I'll improve very quickly.

No, it's called Final Edit for a reason. This FE is not about Leta the StarLeague Champion it is about Leta the Proleague Badass and Potential StarLeague champion.


imma PM you then
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 11 2009 04:45 GMT
#56
On January 11 2009 10:24 n.DieJokes wrote:
Still not impressed wiht leta strong TvT and TvZ but weak toss reminds me of FBH and I HATE FBH, but fantastic write up, thank you.

yeah same,
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
January 11 2009 04:46 GMT
#57
On January 11 2009 13:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2009 13:30 Guybrush wrote:
This is cool and all, but Flash is just way better

Ive already expressed my opinions on Leta in the PR, I like him and I think hes good, definitely top 5 terran at the moment, but he still has alot to prove in individuals and vs protoss to be comparable to LYH. Matchupwise he is comparable to FBH(FBH too busted out with sick TvT play early in his career), but I think they have different styles - Letas unit-positioning really makes him unique.

Thanks for the article, good work DH


Oh yeah. In my honest opinion, FlaSh is the best player alive, and no one even comes close to his current or potential skill level.

His TvP is certainly better than Firebathero's, it isn't bad. It's just the match-up he seems to have the most difficulty with (no surprise considering the current map pool, and the caliber of top protosses out there).

He's still young, and whether or not he rises to the hype is completely up for speculation. I think he will, his Proleague stats are too impressive to just be another Sea.


Yeah as you say the current map pool really makes it hard to win TvP, which is why LYH and Minds perfomances are really impressive(not to mention LYHs play TvP on Katrina last year).

Sea was a monster in the 2007 proleague, and I think his proleague perfomance then can be compared to Letas now. His stats was inflated due to the map Geometry which was a heavily terran favored map. Sea ended up winning tons of TvTs(like Leta now) on that map though
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
January 11 2009 05:28 GMT
#58
According to TLPD Leta lost 8 games in his first 10 game. To think he only lost 23 games .. His development is amazing :o
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 11 2009 06:04 GMT
#59
Nice writeup Helvetica! You are a doctor for sure.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 11 2009 07:13 GMT
#60
that's a nice picture, where'd you get it?
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