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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
December 08 2007 07:33 GMT
#21
Could you also list the games with ceremonies amusing enough to be worth watching?
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 08 2007 07:46 GMT
#22
On December 08 2007 07:23 thedeadhaji wrote:
>plexa

Yea I think I threw out a lot of games I could have given 3/5 to b/c I was getting so damn sick of standard decent/solid but unspectacular games and it's always a pain in the ass deciding what is borderline acceptable or not.
fair call
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
December 08 2007 21:59 GMT
#23
july raping backho was very entertaining
OMG you nasty gurl
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
December 09 2007 00:11 GMT
#24
On December 08 2007 08:28 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
Baezzi: what are those red and blue bars showing before the game? ( @ 0:18 and @ 0:54) It seems that red one is for a win and blue is for a loss against a specific player. But why do they have different number of bars for each win and loss?

Show nested quote +
i'm not baezzi but oh well.
those bars represent the current play-skill of the players that a particular player has won or lost against
for example bisu would be like 4bars. when like KTF_yellow wud be like 1 or 2.


Is this actually what the bars mean?


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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
December 09 2007 01:04 GMT
#25
Ah, the mystery solved at last. Thanks yakii!
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 09 2007 01:22 GMT
#26
So a good player will have massive red bars and any blue bars would be small?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
December 09 2007 01:33 GMT
#27
On December 09 2007 10:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
So a good player will have massive red bars and any blue bars would be small?


If he lose to good player, yes, that blue bars will be small.
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intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
December 09 2007 02:07 GMT
#28
are the bars in relation to the player at hand, ie if bisu lost to someone decent but someone bad compared to him, would it be 3 blue bars or say, 1 or 2?
yakii *
Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-09 03:05:01
December 09 2007 02:59 GMT
#29
On December 09 2007 11:07 intotherainx wrote:
are the bars in relation to the player at hand, ie if bisu lost to someone decent but someone bad compared to him, would it be 3 blue bars or say, 1 or 2?


nope, it doesn't compare within the players. It only depends on how his opponent's WP rank (MBCgame's own ranking system) + Show Spoiler [W.P rank] +


WP rank - December Week 1, 2007 (2006.12.3~2007.12.2)

순위 이름 소속 W P
01위 = (P)Bisu P mbcgame 1853.0 (24 Weeks)
02위 = (P)Stork P samsung 1684.0
03위 = (Z)sAviOr Z CJ 1430.5
04위 = (T)Hwasin T STX 1389.5
05위 ↑6 (T)Light T mbcgame 1086.5
06위 ↑3 (P)free P 한빛 1071.5
07위 ↓2 (Z)GGPlay OR (T)JJando_V Z 한빛 1057.0
08위 ↓2 (P)LuCifer OR (T)Flash T KTF 1056.0
09위 ↑3 (Z)Jaedong Z 르까프 1023.0
10위 ↓2 (T)firebathero T samsung 999.0

11위 ↓4 (T)Iris T CJ 977.0
12위 ↓2 (T)Sea T mbcgame 950.0
13위 ↑2 (T)UpMagiC T eSTRO 871.5
14위 ↓1 (T)Mind T 위메이드 844.5
15위 ↓1 (P)Much OR (P)[Oops]Autumn P CJ 797.5
16위 ↑1 (T)iloveoov T SK텔레콤 710.0
17위 ↑3 (T)NaDa T 위메이드 703.0
18위 = (T)DarkElf OR (P)resisa T CJ 701.0
19위 ↓3 (Z)ZergMaN OR (Z)July Z SK텔레콤 686.0
20위 ↓1 (P)Anytime P 르까프 655.0

21위 = (T)Midas T SK텔레콤 635.0
22위 ↑1 (Z)YellOw[ArnC] Z 온게임넷 613.0
23위 ↓1 (T)fOrGG T 르까프 562.5
24위 ↑4 (Z)GoRush Z SK텔레콤 546.5
25위 ↓1 강 민 P KTF 536.5
26위 ↓1 (P)Rock P 위메이드 532.5
27위 ↓1 (Z)Luxury Z 온게임넷 516.5
28위 ↓1 (T)XellOs T CJ 496.5
29위 = (P)Kal P S TX 445.0
30위 = (P)Tester P eS TRO 417.5

31위 = (P)Chalrenge P 온게임넷 373.5
32위 = (T)Sheis T STX 365.0
33위 ↑2 (T)BoxeR T 공군 343.5
34위 ↓1 (P)Pusan P mbcgame 341.0
35위 ↓1 (T)Canata T SK텔레콤 322.0
36위 = (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm Z STX 318.5
37위 = (Z)maGma Z eSTRO 288.5
38위 = (Z)Kwanro Z CJ 279.0
39위 = (Z)oDin Z samsung 272.0
40위 = (T)Shudder T SK텔레콤 251.0

41위 ↑1 (T)Casy T 위메이드 242.0
41위 ↑3 (P)HerO P 위메이드 242.0
43위 ↑7 (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm T KTF 237.0
44위 ↓3 (P)Reach P KTF 227.5
45위 ↑8 (Z)OversKy Z 공군 219.0
46위 ↓1 (T)Shine T 온게임넷 214.5
47위 ↓4 (T)TheManiaMST T CJ 206.5
48위 ↓2 (T)Justin T 온게임넷 197.0
49위 ↓1 (P)JangBi P samsung 192.5
50위 ↑5 (P)BeSt P SK텔레콤 188.0

51위 ↓2 (T)Lomo T 르까프 187.5
52위 ↑4 (T)go.go T 온게임넷 183.5
53위 ↓2 (P)MuJuK P SK텔레콤 181.0
54위 ↓7 (T)FrOzean T samsung 180.5
55위 ↓3 (Z)HyuN Z mbcgame 168.5
56위 ↓2 (Z)815 Z KTF 165.0
57위 ↑12 (Z)FireFist Z 위메이드 163.0
58위 = (T)Freedom T samsung 162.0
59위 ↓2 (Z)Clon Z 공군 152.5
60위 ↑3 (P)GuemChi P 한빛 147.0

Top 10 players from each race.

Terran- (T)Hwasin(8 Weeks) ↑4 (T)Light ↓1 (P)LuCifer OR (T)Flash (T)firebathero ↓2 (T)Iris ↓1 (T)Sea ↑1 (T)UpMagiC ↓1 (T)Mind (T)iloveoov ↑1 (T)NaDa

Zerg- (Z)sAviOr(57 Weeks) (Z)GGPlay OR (T)JJando_V (Z)Jaedong (Z)ZergMaN OR (Z)July (Z)YellOw[ArnC] ↑1 (Z)GoRush ↓1 (Z)Luxury (T)Hery OR (Z)Calm (Z)maGma (Z)Kwanro

Protoss- (P)Bisu(39 Weeks) (P)Stork (P)free (P)Much OR (P)[Oops]Autumn (P)Anytime (P)Nal_rA (P)Rock (P)Kal (P)Tester (P)Chalrenge


WP points = player get points his opponent's win(during last 4 months : 2007.8.3~2007.12.2)*1.5 + win(during 4~8 months ago : 2007.4.3~2007.8.2)*1.0 + win(during 8~12 months ago : 2006.12.3~2007.4.2)*0.5

i.e If Bisu beat player A who've won
4 games during 2007.8.3~2007.12.2,
6 games during 2007.4.3~2007.8.2,
2 games during 2006.12.3~2007.4.2,

he will get 7 wp points. (4*1.5 + 6*1.0 + 2*0.5 = 6 + 6 + 1)


is high or low.

i.e Bisu has better wp points than savior but he would still get 4 red bars if he beats savior and if he lose to savior he would get 1 blue bar.



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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
December 09 2007 04:14 GMT
#30
thanks for the explanation yakii. thats an interesting system.
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Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
December 09 2007 05:31 GMT
#31
yeah thanx.

Concerning Odin v Hyuk:
+ Show Spoiler +
What exactly happened that made Odin lose? It seemed so close the whole time, and it actually looked like Odin got a small lead (killing Hyuk's ovies in the center, a little ling harassment). But it looked like Hyuk won all the muta/scourge battles. The only thing I noticed is that Odin didn't spread his mutas and Hyuk did. Is that really so important, or am I missing some other reason why Odin lost?
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 10 2007 03:06 GMT
#32
On December 08 2007 07:23 defenestrate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2007 03:00 thedeadhaji wrote:
If you wish to argue that Bisu vs Savior should be higher, please go watch the 500 odd games that have been played thus far this season, then make your case.

Even comparing them to the other games this week, it should be clear that they are simply inferior in entertainment value.

Impulsively responding with "What this is nonsense aoiehfal;skdjfowier" without the proper due diligence isn't going to make a very good case.


haji, I can accept that you did not find the Bisu vs Savior games as exciting as some of the others that took place during that week. + Show Spoiler +
What I can't understand is how you can rank the third game - a solid one-sided harass into macro-rape - higher than the intense, pitched battles of the second game. Maybe it's less impressive with a better understanding of game mechanics than mine, but it really seemed like Bisu was going down once his nat nexus was destroyed, and his comeback was very dramatic.


agree 100% with this
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 10 2007 03:17 GMT
#33
oh well. In any case having these sorts of "these games should be in too!" or "i dont agree with the way you rated these" are really good in providing secondary input for others to base their decision of what to watch on, so please keep them coming in the future ^^
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
December 10 2007 04:42 GMT
#34
Yuk, the first game listed Tester vs Hero on Baekmagoji was a 40 minute snorefest.

+ Show Spoiler +
Blue had it won 20 minutes in, purple just dragged it on.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 10 2007 05:51 GMT
#35
deadhaji the Haran vs Much game is on Katrina

Btw, what a good enterntaining game that was
w/e
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-15 16:12:00
December 15 2007 16:10 GMT
#36
fixed all links in op.

edit: just did the ungoro -> katrina thing for haran vs much.
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