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Hot_Bid's GomTV3 MSL Preview

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Last Edited: 2007-10-10 16:08:26
October 09 2007 21:59 GMT
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Hot_Bid’s GomTV3 MSL Preview
by Hot_Bid
TeamLiquid: Final Edits


"32 players is just too many. As far as I'm concerned, the MSL doesn't start until after the first round."
      –DJEtterStyle, former Power Rank columnist

Bracket by LonelyMargarita:
+ Show Spoiler [Ro32 Bracket] +
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Now that the bastardized part of the MSL is over, we can finally talk about what many consider the superior league this season. I am not going to be making predictions. Given the volatile nature and relative parity of progaming, predicting brackets correctly is just as much luck as it is skill. I could give my opinions on maps and matchups and cite detailed statistics, but that would be boring. Instead, I will just ramble along with disjointed thoughts about the players, the bracket, and the MSL in general.


Notice the crowd laughing when they see FBH.

Before we move onto the players, I have to say the opening video is fantastic. The music pumps you up and the theme is great. The players look intense and cool, tracing beams of light that eventually converge on Bisu, who looks like a giant badass. Thank you MBC, your opening is finally on par with the OSL’s. The opening video perfectly captures the heart of the GomTV3 season: it is all about Kim Taek Young. He is the two-time defending champ and it is his MSL to lose.

You should also notice that two of the GomTV2 MSL semifinalists, GoRush and FireBatHero, are featured prominently in the opening yet are nowhere to be found in the bracket. Bisu’s "Zerg Slump Touch" that he slapped Savior with apparently works on every Zerg. It seems like Bisu beat the success right out of GoRush, who is 4-8 since that horrific showing. GoRush lost in his Ro32 group in the most painful way possible (win, loss, loss) and was eliminated by the same guy (Mania) that he had beaten earlier that night. The good news for GoRush is that approximately 800 players will qualify for the next MSL.

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Do not insult the Brood War Gods.

FireBatHero, much to my delight, follows in Midas’ footsteps in satisfying Karma Theory. Midas, as I predicted in March, was doomed to fail after picking Savior in the Shinhan3 bracket selection. The Brood War Gods are notoriously vengeful and do not look kindly upon disrespect against the player they choose to be the bonjwa. As a result, Midas did not qualify for the OSL, MSL or WCG, and he opened Shinhan PL2 with a horrible loss to Odin on the TvZ happy land known as Monty Hall. Midas has officially dropped off the Progaming map. On the bright side, he can always find work as a chef for SKT1.

FBH did this after his GomTV2 quarterfinal win against Savior. As soon as I saw him do the dance, I knew he was screwed. Three months and two Rock photoshops later, FBH has a stellar 3-13 record, did not make OSL, did not make WCG, and 0-2’d his MSL Ro32 Group. Dancing much now? Do not mess with karma.

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Who will be the next 910?

Every match in the Ro16 is incredibly important because they are for seeds into the next MSL. For that reason, we all hope the big names manage to secure seeds, but true fans know this just does not happen. One of the Mind-Lomo-Mania trio is going to upset a favorite in the Ro16. It is guaranteed to occur—we can call it the 910 Rule. Whoever "pulls a 910" is going to be hated, because nobody wants to see Oov, July, or Free lose and be forced to struggle through qualifiers again. This lose-lose situation is the curse of being an unproven Terran in a bracket overloaded with unproven Terrans—you can only be the spoiler, not the hero. When the GomTV4 MSL rolls around, we are going to see one of these three guys’ names on the seed list, shake our heads and ask the obligatory 910 Question: "what the hell, 910 got a seed?" (Replace "910" with Mind, Lomo, or Mania).

Take that scenario a step further and imagine next season’s seeds as Mind, Mania, Lomo, Stork, Hwasin, Light, Canata, and ForGG. We would be on our way to our first ever TTTTTTTT Ro8 and the death of every exhausted Korean announcer who has to fill the silence during those boring TvT stalemates. It would be worse than—gasp—Geometry. Just thinking about it makes me fall asleep.

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If only Liquibet was this easy.

Bisu, Stork, Hwasin, and Savior are arguably the four best players in the entire MSL. Two of them will not make the Round of 8. How did this happen? The blame squarely falls on Bisu and Stork. While you cannot blame Bisu for having a little trouble with his absurdly difficult Oov/Nada/Flash group, it was his decision to switch into that group in the first place. Now Bisu has to play Hwasin for a seed instead of a trophy, but his opponent could get easier with every round he wins.

Stork should have advanced easily out of his group, but instead he had to play two tense elimination games. He even resorted to cheesing Orion despite having the ability to beat him straight up. As a result he takes his weakest matchup to Ma Jae Yoon’s house, where Stork is 1-4 (his sole win almost two years ago). I did not think Stork had any chance of getting past Savior, but then WCG showed us that anything was possible. Stork, we have Wufan’s contact information should you need it.

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In this photograph, someone is practicing and someone is not.

This match was probably the biggest upset in Starcraft history. PJ was horrible on SKT1 and extra horrible in PvZ. He gave up trying to make it as a pro in Korea and went back to China, only to come back four months later to 2-1 the best ZvP player of all time. In what twisted universe does this result make sense?

When I was watching Tasteless go over the replays, I kept thinking that maybe there was a mistake and Savior was the real winner. I was waiting for PJ to grab his own face and rip it off, revealing Bisu underneath. As I typed out "PJ beat Savior 2-1..." I kept hoping I could add "...on OPPOSITE day!" but I could not. It actually happened. Apparently, the secret to beating Savior is to buy a plane ticket. Bisu went to Thailand and PJ went to China, so if Ra and Stork vacation together in Indonesia, they are sure to beat Savior in GomTV4.

Savior has no excuse. Yes, he likely underestimated PJ and definitely did not play well, but he was still up 1-0 and PJ did not cheese in any of the games. What a debacle—Savior will be crucified by fans in Korea. Hopefully the effect on him will be profound. In a perverse way, I am almost glad this happened. Two possible results:
  1. The embarrassment and humiliation forces Savior to wake up and return to form. He wins both the OSL and MSL and re-establishes his dominance.

  2. Savior rolls over and dies, never winning another Starcraft match again.
Most likely he just continues plodding along like he is now. As a Savior fan, I do not want a long, painful descent into mediocrity. I want to know right now whether Savior will return to his Pringles and Shinhan3 roots or whether he will never get there again. Hopefully PJ helped speed that process up.


"Insurance" picks will lose to whatever I choose to build.

The rivalry started when Bisu picked Hwasin for his Daum OSL group, called him "insurance," and then embarrassed him with mass scouts. Hwasin is a proud guy and clearly held a grudge. He was seething after the 2-3 loss to Bisu in GomTV2. I am sure that the loss drove Hwasin to practice like a madman, and now he is very strong in every matchup. In previous seasons he has been a bit unlucky, losing to eventual champion GGPlay 1-2 in Daum and eventual finalist Savior 2-3 in GomTV1. But this time Hwasin seems like a man on a mission, and he will get his opportunity for revenge against in the Ro16. Whoever comes out of this match will be the favorite to win the entire MSL.

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The good old days of unstoppable macro.

This may be one of Iloveoov’s last chances at a title. He looked great 2-0’ing his group, but do not let that fool you—Oov has recently been horrible against Terran (3-7) and mediocre against Zerg (5-5). His road to the finals will likely include July and Savior. But the bracket is not his biggest problem—motivation is. In the ODT against UpMagic, Oov looked like he just gave up after the first TvT tie. Ever since Boxer left, Oov simply does not seem to care as much. I hope he has enough drive left in him for one last serious run at a title.

Imagine this: Oov wins the GomTV3 MSL by beating July, Savior, and Bisu, and then immediately announces his retirement. He remains retired for a year and returns to Progaming as co-captain of Boxer’s new SC2 team. In his first televised game, Oov overloads the MBS macro system so badly that it causes a blackout of the entire OGN studio. It could happen!

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The real reason July went to SKT1.

Something is different about July now that he is on SKT1. Maybe his win over Bisu in the ODT gave him confidence. Maybe he is enjoying Midas’ cooking at the SKT1 house. Whatever it is, July got his mojo back and has a chip on his shoulder again. He wants to prove that HERO made a mistake on him. Nothing would be sweeter than beating Light or Bisu in the finals, except leading SKT1 (currently 3-0) to the Proleague playoffs while MBC (1-3) struggles. Either way, I am just happy to see the big guy play so many ZvTs on these new maps. After he disposes of Mania we may see a Gillette-esque old school Bo5 between him and Iloveoov. If this happens, July and Oov should make a bet: whoever wins this series gets all the Starleague wins (7¹) between them. This would instantly give the winner the diamond mouse, which they would then sell to Yellow and use the proft to buy 10,000 bushels of bananas. Everybody wins.

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Free was 17-7 (10-3 PvT) in Proleague last season.

Free is finally in a major league. The guy wants to be successful so badly. His salary is so low relative for an "ace" player, and he puts his heart out there in every match. It is very easy to cheer for someone who embodies the Protoss underdog spirit. Free fights so hard, yet consistently gets screwed by the circumstances. His bad luck continues—in the last two months, Free is 0-4 vs. Savior and Stork, and 7-3 vs. everyone else, including 2-1 wins over Sea and Midas. Should he beat Lomo, his Ro8 opponent will be, of course, Savior or Stork. The universe should give this guy a break. Good luck Free, you will need it.

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Kwanro’s Hit List. You are next, Light!

Kwanro is mentionable only because of his schedule. He had to play July and Sea to get here, and now he must play a red-hot Light, with Bisu or Hwasin waiting for him in the quarterfinals. Nobody has a more hilariously difficult road to the semis. Kwanro, like Free, is just happy to be in the Ro16. Will he settle for that or is he destined to follow in Savior’s footsteps as the next great CJ Zerg? He clearly learned a few things in the practice house, beating Sea with the no-lurker ultralisk build that Savior used against Light in WCG Korea. Can Kwanro do what Savior could not and put a dent in Bisu’s impeccable PvZ? + Show Spoiler +
No he cannot.

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Heads, +3/+2.

It is sad that Nal_Ra has become somewhat insignificant. When Ra’s wacky proxies work, he is the most entertaining, creative, non-Boxer player in Korea. Unfortunately, entertainment and creativity do not translate into wins. Bisu is flat better than Ra in just about every aspect of the game, and Stork only lags behind in PvZ. Ra has become a relatively distant third on the Protoss food chain. Let us hope that when the semifinals roll around, Ra still has some innovation left.

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One of these guys is smooth, cool, and marketable. The other guy wins.

Xellos can only ride his Olympus OSL win for so long before he becomes Sync. It was a big deal for the “the man” of CJ to drop to B-team to practice due to lack of results. The stint seems to have paid off, as Xellos breezed through a relatively easy Ro32 group. But how far has he fallen when fans are happy with a Ro16 appearance? Xellos may seem to be a changed man, but nothing short of the semis will prove it.

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Can one of these guys make "the leap?"

These three have different expectations than Mind, Lomo, or Mania. Light is playing much better than the other two, They all have the potential and experience to be great players, yet they all have glaring flaws that prevent them from being champions.
  • Light is never noticeable but always there, qualified in both leagues. He is a legitimate threat to Bisu in the MSL and he just beat Hwasin in the OSL week 1. But can you picture the headline "Light, MSL Champion?" I cannot. Light does not seem to have that special something that wins Starleagues.

  • Canata was one of those fabled SKT Terrans. He was hyped like crazy but never lived up to his potential. He is not young anymore by pro-team standards, and Shudder has eclipsed him as the new rising Terran on his own team. Canata, once regarded as an heir to Boxer and Oov, seems destined to stay mediocre.

  • If ForGG ever learns how to properly micro, watch out. His macro is like he listens to a subliminal "we require more minerals" message every night while he sleeps. It is funny how many units he makes and even funnier how many he then loses with sloppy control. He is already good enough to be a solid Proleague contributor (10-8), and if he learns how to use those blobs of units he makes, he could be a champion.



My list of players' chances to win the MSL, in descending order:

14-16. Bright-Eyed Chaff
Mind, Lomo, and Mania will not last long. One of them will luck an upset win, but do not expect two.

13. Impressively Ordinary
Canata has played more games (60) than the three new guys combined (42). He is a threat TvT but has yet to advance past a Ro8. That trend will continue.

12. So Impossible That It Almost Makes Sense
Kwanro’s side of the bracket is loaded with Zerg-killers, but he just might be crazy enough to pull it off.

10-11. My Name is Danger
The big names do not want to face Free or ForGG. On a bad day they beat themselves, on a good day they beat anyone. Unfortunately these two do not have the nerves or experience to go all the way.

8-9. The DeLorean Has Two Terran Drivers
Iloveoov and Xellos attempt to recapture their old glory by beating the young guns with experience, guile, and fresh attitudes.

7. So Proximate, Yet So Far
Just a year removed from the MSL finals, Nal_Ra still struggles with consistency.

6. Return?
Savior would be three spots higher if he never went to Seattle. A few cracks in his armor have turned into rather large holes. We may have to accept that he might never come back.

4-5. Inertia
Do not underestimate the power of momentum (just ask Daum GGPlay). July (8-2) and Light (12-4) have been on fire since August and are hoping to streak right into the finals.

3. The Pride of South Korea
Stork has most of the country cheering for him. Can the WCG champ reinvent his PvZ to beat Savior and July so he can get back to the finals? A week ago I would have said no, but a week ago PJ was not wearing a silver medal.

2. Revenge, Retribution, and... ... Passion...
Hwasin will treat his Round of 16 match against Bisu like it is the MSL finals.

1. The Reigning Champ
Bisu is the consensus favorite and could win his third MSL title this year. He would be in good company: Nada, Oov, and Savior are the only players with 3 MSL wins.




I hope you enjoyed this preview. The MSL Round of 16 Week 1 begins October 11th at 18:30 TL time. Enjoy the games!

¹ I know they are not all of July and Oov’s titles are OSL wins, so "Juloov" technically would not get the diamond mouse, but let me make my joke, OK?
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LaMoj
Profile Joined October 2007
Trinidad/Tobago88 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-09 22:18:40
October 09 2007 22:00 GMT
#2
I've been waiting for something like this, Thanks !
Great write-up, Excellent Read !
gg yo !
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
October 09 2007 22:16 GMT
#3
/me applauds

Very nice! :D. I like the charm and humor you put into it the most.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
October 09 2007 22:22 GMT
#4
nice writeup, enjoyed the read
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 09 2007 22:28 GMT
#5
Mistake:
10-11. My Name is Danger
The big names do not want to face Free or ForGG. On a bad they beat themselves, on a good day they beat anyone. Unfortunately these two do not have the nerves or experience to go all the way.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
October 09 2007 22:32 GMT
#6
Hot_Bid's GomTV3 MSL Preview? This is pre-Aeon of Strife all over again!
Moonlight Shadow
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
October 09 2007 22:47 GMT
#7
On October 10 2007 07:28 TheTyranid wrote:
Mistake:
10-11. My Name is Danger
The big names do not want to face Free or ForGG. On a bad they beat themselves, on a good day they beat anyone. Unfortunately these two do not have the nerves or experience to go all the way.

Thanks!

I corrected it.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-09 22:52:14
October 09 2007 22:47 GMT
#8
Now that's a preview! Great read, I'm really looking forward to the rest of this MSL (mainly thanks to you and GeneralStan).
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 09 2007 22:49 GMT
#9
Take that scenario a step further and imagine next season’s seeds as (T)Mind, Mania, (T)Lomo, (P)Stork, (T)Hwasin, (T)Light, (T)Canata, and (T)fOrGG. We would be on our way to our first ever TTTTTTTT Ro8 and the death of every exhausted Korean announcer who has to fill the silence during those boring TvT stalemates.


Which of the above does not belong?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
October 09 2007 22:54 GMT
#10
Wow, nice read. I really had a good time reading this article.

I especially liked the funny pictures and comments on them XD.
uppTagg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden473 Posts
October 09 2007 22:58 GMT
#11
Amazing! Very enjoyable read.

Now gogo Oov! :D
men du... Tagga!
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
October 09 2007 23:20 GMT
#12
Fantastic read, really pro work here
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
October 09 2007 23:31 GMT
#13
saviour had 4 msl wins no?
555, kthxbai
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 09 2007 23:56 GMT
#14
The picture with PJ practicing was hilarious.
Trucy Wright is hot
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
October 09 2007 23:57 GMT
#15
On October 10 2007 08:31 Zalfor wrote:
saviour had 4 msl wins no?

Nope, 3.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
October 10 2007 00:08 GMT
#16
:D

nice read. gogo Time Machine~
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
October 10 2007 00:12 GMT
#17
Nice write up, wow those scouts embarrassed hwasin, did you see it made him twitch?
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 10 2007 00:22 GMT
#18
On October 10 2007 07:49 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
Take that scenario a step further and imagine next season’s seeds as (T)Mind, Mania, (T)Lomo, (P)Stork, (T)Hwasin, (T)Light, (T)Canata, and (T)fOrGG. We would be on our way to our first ever TTTTTTTT Ro8 and the death of every exhausted Korean announcer who has to fill the silence during those boring TvT stalemates.


Which of the above does not belong?


Replace Stork with Savior(T).
Hehe.
Waves
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia185 Posts
October 10 2007 00:25 GMT
#19
Great read! The highlight for me was probably the summing up of chances at the end, but the whole thing was really solid. Well done, Hot_Bid.
miNi
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Korea (South)2010 Posts
October 10 2007 00:38 GMT
#20
very enjoyable to read, sir
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
October 10 2007 00:48 GMT
#21
Notice the crowd laughing when they see FBH.


omg roflrofl

His macro is like he listens to a subliminal "we require more minerals" message every night while he sleeps.


lmao nice article :d
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Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1654 Posts
October 10 2007 00:51 GMT
#22
Awesome read! Funny captions and deep analysis!
Great job!
Graphics
Anvil666
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany122 Posts
October 10 2007 01:03 GMT
#23
Great preview. This is the first full corean league i am going to watch. Your article helps me alot to rate the players and the matchups. Thanks alot!
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
October 10 2007 01:17 GMT
#24
that was a nice read

keep the good work guys
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-10 01:42:35
October 10 2007 01:42 GMT
#25
Holy SHIT this post was Awesome. Jeez, we are lucky as fuck to have a talented writing staff as this one. If only American companies pays attention to stuff like this, marketing SC will be so easy here.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
October 10 2007 01:43 GMT
#26
"So Proximate, Yet So Far"

hahaha.

Actually all of the headings in that section are brilliant.

Don't underestimate Xellos' MSL-QuarterFinals Instict!!

That man has a nose for seeds.
returns upon momentous occasions.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
October 10 2007 01:47 GMT
#27
Excellent writeup. I particularly like the captions.
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CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
October 10 2007 01:47 GMT
#28
Savior just hasn't been.....himself......lately
yet people still autovote...hah!
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
October 10 2007 02:04 GMT
#29
wow nice writeup
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 10 2007 02:05 GMT
#30
lol cool nice writeup i've been waiting for this haha!
man i've lost all hope in savior i'm waiting for the next zerg savior to come up -_- whennnnn.
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
October 10 2007 02:06 GMT
#31
haha sorry alffla i forgot to credit you for your work on the cover image

i'll edit it in
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
October 10 2007 02:07 GMT
#32
In all seriousness though, a ro8 with Stork in it wouldn't be TTTTTTTT Maybe you should fix that?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-10 02:11:24
October 10 2007 02:10 GMT
#33
On October 10 2007 11:07 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
In all seriousness though, a ro8 with Stork in it wouldn't be TTTTTTTT Maybe you should fix that?

I said that if these were next season's seeds (7 Terrans and Stork) then we would be "on our way" to the first ever TTTTTTTT Ro8.

Those 7 Terrans and Stork aren't guaranteed to make the Ro8 in GomTV4. The next MSL has 32 players. Just because Stork is a seed doesn't mean he'll reach the Ro8.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
October 10 2007 02:52 GMT
#34
... passion ... ...

...

on another note, law school + tl.net?! how many hours per week is school taking up?
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Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
October 10 2007 03:02 GMT
#35
He attends law school in Mexico. It's not quite the same. Awesome writeup by the way
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
October 10 2007 03:09 GMT
#36
On October 10 2007 10:47 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
Savior just hasn't been.....himself......lately
yet people still autovote...hah!

Savior has shown us what Starcraft can be, and it is glorious. We will patiently await His second coming.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 10 2007 03:30 GMT
#37
On (Z)October 10 2007 12:09 SonuvBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)October 10 2007 10:47 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
(Z)sAviOr just hasn't been.....himself......lately
yet people still autovote...hah!

(Z)sAviOr has shown us what Starcraft can be, and it is glorious. We will patiently await His second coming.


IMO, no one deserves the capital 'H' other than HIM.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
October 10 2007 03:32 GMT
#38
Holy Crap HB, this is an amazing write-up! I loved it!
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-10 03:43:51
October 10 2007 03:43 GMT
#39
On (Z)October 10 2007

It seems we're in the month of the Zerg. Go (Z)sAviOr! (and (Z)July! and (Z)Kwanro!)
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MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
October 10 2007 03:47 GMT
#40
Awesome stuff, good read. You should do one for OSL and ProLeague also.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
October 10 2007 03:48 GMT
#41
Btw, excellent write-up
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-10 04:31:35
October 10 2007 03:51 GMT
#42
On October 10 2007 11:52 NonY[rC] wrote:
... passion ... ...

...

on another note, law school + tl.net?! how many hours per week is school taking up?

I do about 6-7 hours of studying each day outside of class. I don't study (or study very little) on Friday or Saturday. I can even catch a live match once a week because I wake up at 6:45am, which is not far from 5:30 anyway.

Between TL.net, social events, class, studying, and sports/tv, I'm pretty much busy ALL the time. Though I actually find maybe an hour or two a week to play Brood War (shhhhh). For stuff like FE and moderation, it's almost always done in 10 minute spurts between studying or relaxing.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 10 2007 04:29 GMT
#43
That was a treat.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
October 10 2007 04:58 GMT
#44
heads up +3 +2 lol :D
And all is illuminated.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
October 10 2007 05:07 GMT
#45
wow, amazing writing... sooo entertaining to read

<3
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
October 10 2007 07:26 GMT
#46
i think you're very wrong about savior. wcg doesn't mean shit
and thx for the article!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 10 2007 07:30 GMT
#47
On October 10 2007 12:51 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2007 11:52 NonY[rC] wrote:
... passion ... ...

...

on another note, law school + tl.net?! how many hours per week is school taking up?

I do about 6-7 hours of studying each day outside of class. I don't study (or study very little) on Friday or Saturday. I can even catch a live match once a week because I wake up at 6:45am, which is not far from 5:30 anyway.

Between TL.net, social events, class, studying, and sports/tv, I'm pretty much busy ALL the time. Though I actually find maybe an hour or two a week to play Brood War (shhhhh). For stuff like FE and moderation, it's almost always done in 10 minute spurts between studying or relaxing.


omg i really should be doing that lol i slack off way too much for my own good >_<
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
October 10 2007 07:46 GMT
#48
That was an amazing read. Splendid job.
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
October 10 2007 07:59 GMT
#49
On October 10 2007 16:30 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2007 12:51 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 10 2007 11:52 NonY[rC] wrote:
... passion ... ...

...

on another note, law school + tl.net?! how many hours per week is school taking up?

I do about 6-7 hours of studying each day outside of class. I don't study (or study very little) on Friday or Saturday. I can even catch a live match once a week because I wake up at 6:45am, which is not far from 5:30 anyway.

Between TL.net, social events, class, studying, and sports/tv, I'm pretty much busy ALL the time. Though I actually find maybe an hour or two a week to play Brood War (shhhhh). For stuff like FE and moderation, it's almost always done in 10 minute spurts between studying or relaxing.


omg i really should be doing that lol i slack off way too much for my own good >_<


seconded
tOOkOmA4U
Profile Joined November 2006
Germany253 Posts
October 10 2007 09:18 GMT
#50
really awesome article, thumbs up!
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
October 10 2007 09:48 GMT
#51
Article. Time for Bisu to make it three in a way.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Vomified
Profile Joined August 2007
Bulgaria68 Posts
October 10 2007 10:12 GMT
#52
a great read to wake up in the morning with

BUT ZOMG SAVIOR PWN STORK PLZ!!!!111
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
October 10 2007 11:42 GMT
#53
Wow, Really really good read ^__^ I'd say it's one of my top 3 favorite final edit articles.

p.s. LMAO @ the "one is practicing" pic.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
October 10 2007 12:24 GMT
#54
On October 10 2007 16:46 PoP wrote:
That was an amazing read. Splendid job.

yeah this was an epic preview lol

thanks for getting us all stoked up and in high anticipation for the games hot bid
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DD-FRIeZa
Profile Joined November 2006
Croatia91 Posts
October 10 2007 15:08 GMT
#55
oh, really nice work, how long it took you to write this big posT?
berated-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
October 10 2007 15:29 GMT
#56
In his first televised game, Oov overload the MBS macro system so badly that it causes a blackout of the entire OGN studio. It could happen!


I lol'd so hard when I read this. Amazing write up! Don't give up the hope though, he will return! (Savior fanboy for life)
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
October 10 2007 15:48 GMT
#57
nice!
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asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
October 10 2007 16:52 GMT
#58
gosu article
really enjoyed reading it
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Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
October 10 2007 17:01 GMT
#59
Really nice article Hot_Bid, I enjoyed it a lot.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
October 10 2007 17:44 GMT
#60
Good stuff Hot_Bid.
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xnugx
Profile Joined May 2007
52 Posts
October 10 2007 17:48 GMT
#61
There is a lot of pressure hinged on this MSL...
So much that I can barely take it, I wan't the Maestro to come back so bad, or another old school player like oov and xellos.
Let's hope
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
October 10 2007 17:58 GMT
#62
Nice read
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
October 10 2007 18:15 GMT
#63
What an amazing article. I did not understand that it is finished.

Iloveoov was very scary but he has last chance to show incredible macro>all.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 10 2007 23:41 GMT
#64
good stuff
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
October 11 2007 00:37 GMT
#65
Wow, the pics, the comments below them, the fbh karma, the "zerg slum touch", the road that each one has to take, etc etc, everything was amazing.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
October 11 2007 03:04 GMT
#66
That was my favorite final edit so far, had everything thye need, humor, insite, entertain, and well written, iw ould exspect nothign less from a Final Edit, can't wait for the next one hot_bid, keep it up.
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Q(-_-Q)
Profile Joined August 2007
United States348 Posts
October 11 2007 03:05 GMT
#67
ahh leave FBH alone. he's an idiot, but a loveable one at that

good write up. i agree that the Bisu v. HwaSin and sAviOr v. StOrk is gonna turn into the semi-finals. I am very, very interested in those games
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-11 03:22:27
October 11 2007 03:12 GMT
#68
I have such mixed feeling about this MSL, i watn sAviOr to come back, Free to finally be a true underdog champion, and win his title, he truly deserves it after all he has been through, Bisu to continue his domiance, hwasin to shut up and die via mass scouts, and of coarse, Stork, Maybe better then Bisu? Not quite yet, give him Free's PvZ and you have the best player in the world without question. All deserve it and half of them will be gone before the Ro8, it's a shame.

I realy want to see hwasin lose, and sAviOr/Stork, i;'m just so unsure about that, i will be happy regardless, but it will be sad if sAviOr loses, because that pretty much proves this slump isn't going away. Cast away the humilation like the god you are sAviOr and claim that which is rightfully yours, the 4th MSL title.


This is sAviOr's last hurrah, it's win or die, if he wins here he starts his path to the finals to reclaim what is his, the Zerg Legacy, the perfect play by any means. If he falls here, there is nothing else, he will fall to mediocrity, but for those who have seen the intensity in sAviOr, you know he won't just sit there and take it, he will fight until he's got nothing left, he is not one to fall quietly into the shadows, he will go kicking and screaming or he won't go at all. He is sAviOr.
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 11 2007 03:27 GMT
#69
Good stuff as usual HB.
IaniAniaN
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada555 Posts
October 11 2007 03:56 GMT
#70
I would never count Savior out, sure he won't dominate absolutely, but he can and will always be a factor. The second he gets some inspiration, he will become one of the scariest players around. I expect him to be like July is now, not dominating, but a major factor. I doubt he'll begin losing to newbies all of a sudden.
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
October 11 2007 06:38 GMT
#71
I bet you'd feel guilty if firebat really did die. actually, now I say that I'm not too sure..
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-11 07:34:22
October 11 2007 07:31 GMT
#72
I honestly believe that Free will go to the finals. When I see him play, his control, macro, micro it just seems to have a fire to it to me. His goon control is certainly the best right now, he has a macro button that leaves you wondering how he even got that army, and I'd watch his PvZ reps before Bisu's.
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FanaBatHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Angola70 Posts
October 11 2007 19:11 GMT
#73
I enjoyed the read greatly n_n Great referencing/jokes. More please?
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
October 11 2007 20:25 GMT
#74
gj
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aeronexus
Profile Joined June 2007
United States392 Posts
October 12 2007 00:20 GMT
#75
awesome article
thank you Hot_Bid!
10 points!
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
October 12 2007 00:55 GMT
#76
Incredible article hotbid. I just got to reading it now, and I'm glad I left it for a night where I could take my time and enjoy.

Good stuff. You're break down of players is really well done and accurate.
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malkavian47
Profile Joined June 2007
Croatia114 Posts
October 12 2007 14:32 GMT
#77
great job man! <3
really enjoyed it!
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
October 12 2007 16:40 GMT
#78
best article in weeks, thanks man!

if you made a magazine of sc i would pay for it
GMer[TOp]
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada118 Posts
October 13 2007 03:01 GMT
#79
Excellentaayyyy!!!
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pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5390 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-16 20:21:54
October 16 2007 20:20 GMT
#80
Finally got around to reading this brilliant writeup. This was much more entertaining than a list of players and their previous accomplishments. It's good to read about the playstyles of each player and how they might stack up against their largest threat(s) in this MSL. Thanks HB.
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Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
October 22 2007 04:54 GMT
#81
First off, that savior video owned my life.

2nd, updated bracket?

3rd, good read!

4th, freaking go Kwanro!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-22 04:57:52
October 22 2007 04:57 GMT
#82
updated bracket in the Results & Standings thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60055

+ Show Spoiler +
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davidgurt
Profile Joined September 2006
United States1355 Posts
October 22 2007 05:27 GMT
#83
gfg hot_bid this shit is amazing. keep up the great work
There's crashing?
Lhyviathan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia975 Posts
October 22 2007 06:48 GMT
#84
Very illuminating read.

Doesn't just talk about the tournament, but the context of it, too.
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Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
October 24 2007 17:33 GMT
#85
I laughed my ass off with the captions EXCELLENT read.

God this reminds me why I keep coming back to TL.net even if the games outdated.
Such fan fucking tastic stuff here!!
Jolle
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway185 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-30 22:53:54
October 30 2007 22:53 GMT
#86
A bit slow response, but got to say excellent read.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
November 10 2007 00:35 GMT
#87
I remembered this when i was banned for the 2 days and mind won his match vs sAviOr.

Is Mind truly just another 910? Or could he go all the way and take it? No one exspected him to upset as many games as he did so far, now he has slayed the legend sAviOr at his weakest point admitadly, but savior is a scary opponent regardless. And if he somehow goes all the way, hotbids awesome preview will have been wrong, But it's Bisu, so your probably in the clear. But out of curiosity, did you (hotbid) think mind could get this far? Or that he would just upset a favorite then lose in the proceeding round?
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koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
December 13 2007 01:23 GMT
#88
On November 10 2007 09:35 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
I remembered this when i was banned for the 2 days and mind won his match vs sAviOr.

Is Mind truly just another 910? Or could he go all the way and take it? No one exspected him to upset as many games as he did so far, now he has slayed the legend sAviOr at his weakest point admitadly, but savior is a scary opponent regardless. And if he somehow goes all the way, hotbids awesome preview will have been wrong, But it's Bisu, so your probably in the clear. But out of curiosity, did you (hotbid) think mind could get this far? Or that he would just upset a favorite then lose in the proceeding round?


late response but wow... how wrong the predictions were. mind mind mind, oh what hole did u climb out of?
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
January 15 2014 05:57 GMT
#89
Reading this TLFE and thinking about how Mind managed to snatch Bisu's trophy makes me sad : (
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