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Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
May 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#61
Excellent analysis. Cannot wait for Part 2.
As old as the games are, a lot can still be applied in today's BW and SC2 scene.
Its a shame that Savior is banned in the SC2 scene as well.
Pippah
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark353 Posts
May 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#62
OMG an ass kicking article. Good job - nice read! Have to rewatch some of the vods soon.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 24 2011 21:10 GMT
#63
Holy hell. Oov is my favorite player of all time, but savior, my god...he was god
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#64
Yeah, that was an amazing FE and a delight to read, thank you!
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
May 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#65
great read. made my day!
savior will always be my fav player (with Jaedong) .. despite the fact that i might never see him play a competetive game again
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
May 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#66
Such an epic piece! Love it! <3
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
May 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#67
Great article, fun read.

Thanks!
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
May 24 2011 21:11 GMT
#68
Great writeup Ver!
Ahh, sAviOr, you never did destroy everyone in 2009... but, you destroyed many hearts in 2010 .
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gardinho
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany368 Posts
May 24 2011 21:12 GMT
#69
Excellent article. Great read and I really like the pictures with statistics.

But I absoluteley hate him for the matchmaking and cannot forgive any sportsman for something like that. Its just plain disgusting.
isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
May 24 2011 21:12 GMT
#70
On May 25 2011 05:57 War Horse wrote:
Awesome read

Savior was an incredible revolutionary player, but clearly a flawed human being. Oddly enough, most great athletes are.

Just as the Black Sox scandal overshadowed Joe Jackson's marvelous career (and there is some doubt he was even really that involved), the match fixing will overshadow Savior's (and there is no doubt on the amount of his involvement)

Its probably not possible but I'd love for part 2 to cover a lot about Savior personally, why he chose to do what he did, and what his regrets are. Would be an interesting human interest piece.


You can't forget Pete Rose either. I had already stopped playing BW by the time savior rose to dominance so that was a really fun and inspiring article to read.
Loose lips sink ships
btxmonty
Profile Joined April 2010
Panama80 Posts
May 24 2011 21:12 GMT
#71
Excellent read... I which I followed Korean BW back in 2007, even tho I already knew of boxer never knew there were so many more amazing players. It's truly inspirational on what can someone achieve when they have the right mindset...
It is only the dead who have seen the end of war - Plato
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3396 Posts
May 24 2011 21:13 GMT
#72
One of the best writeups I've seen on TL. So good.

MJY </3
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Owii
Profile Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 22:15:35
May 24 2011 21:14 GMT
#73
On May 25 2011 06:06 legaton wrote:
Awesome writeup, really nice graphics and awful timing

Jaedong has a nice and shiny 19-5 record in ZvT for 2011. With a clear victory over Flash in the MSL finals (and you know it's going to happen), Jaedong will take the crown of the best ZvTer ever.


100% incorrect. The caliber of Terrans today can't even compare to the Terrans that Savior slayed. Iloveoov? Nada? Hwasin? Boxer? Midas? The only Terrans today that are as good as any of them are Flash and Fantasy (and possibly Leta). Savior was destroying Terrans at a time during the dark period for zergs. There were zero zerg not named Savior who where making the R08 of either the MSL of OSL for nearly two years.

Jaedong might have a better record than Savior in ZvT, but the guys he's playing are much worse (other than Flash), and there a several other strong zergs right now for him to study and improve from. Savior did it all as the sole flagbearer for the race.
robice
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Germany114 Posts
May 24 2011 21:14 GMT
#74
OMG! I almost forgot these sick times when Savior dominated. That was the peak of broodwar imo.

Thank you for the article Ver.
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
May 24 2011 21:14 GMT
#75
Cant even describe the chills im having at the moment.. superb article. could not have been done better !
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
May 24 2011 21:14 GMT
#76
it's a damn shame what happened to him, he could have gone down in history as the best Zerg ever. Now nobody dares to mention that. I guess i dont mind it that much, cuz i've been a JD fan since forever, but still, Savior was an idol for any Zerg player, it shouldn't have ended as he it did.

Big props on the ammount of work you put in this
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
May 24 2011 21:14 GMT
#77
I never liked Savior for 1 tiny thing.
A "true" gamer dedication shouldn't come from the money it should come from the love for the game, just look at ppl such as NaDa, Boxer, Flash i don't think they were promised money when they began playing starcraft, they played it for fun and they could quite anytime atm since they are obviously not so legendary as before and they have made enough money for a lifetime but they don't since they like to game, they are gamers, so are MC,Neastea and FD who were between the worst of bw but kept playing since they liked playing.
If it is true that Savior actually helped at selling matches result, that doesn't show that he is a bad person, a bad player but it just shows that he doesn't care about the actual competition and fun in the game but rather only about the money.

He was an amazing player - noted
He was the best zerg over 3 years - noted
He owned all and every of the top tire pro multiple times in matches - noted
He innovated zerg - noted

But all this achievements seem like nothing to me if he did it only to win money and not cuz he truly enjoyed playing the game.

Just my 2 cents
A good strategy means leaving your opponent room to make mistakes
Ryhn
Profile Joined February 2010
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 21:15:08
May 24 2011 21:14 GMT
#78
Not quite done yet, but my gosh!

This is a masterfully well crafted article. Major respect to the author/authors of this beautiful piece!

Nerd Chills x1000
Famous Books Written by Progamers - "Clam: Mastering your other self"
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-24 21:16:29
May 24 2011 21:15 GMT
#79
I've read half of that for now, but I want to say it almost brought tears to my eyes. I was there, I witnessed SaviOr's rise and fall. He really was an incredible player. I'm proud I was a SaviOr fanboy during his rise, dominance and the inevitable fall. But his legacy remains, this article proves it =)
He inspired me to switch to Zerg!

Thanks TL for the awesome article
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 24 2011 21:16 GMT
#80
Jesus christ, and that was only part 1?

Such an epic FE.. cheers
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