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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
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FakeKisser
United States159 Posts
I believe SC2 will be able to pick up where Brood War left off. I have not played it yet, myself, but the reports I hear all say that you can tell it is still StarCraft. That is what will keep the sport alive. | ||
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
It (Gould's idea) is a really cool idea that should have gotten a lot more attention and explains a great deal of competitive phenomena (early experimentation, later standardization). | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On February 25 2010 00:35 FieryBalrog wrote: Awesome article, and I immediately knew which article by Gould you were referencing (the disappearance of the .400 hitter) and later he had an entire book on the subject. It (Gould's idea) is a really cool idea that should have gotten a lot more attention and explains a great deal of competitive phenomena (early experimentation, later standardization). Thanks. Yeah i'm a real fan of Gould, I don't think he got half the credit he deserved for his contribution to science and public understanding. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14896 Posts
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Jazriel
Canada404 Posts
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
Thanks for the effort. | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
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Iheartjaedong
Korea (South)12 Posts
Nice writing. | ||
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grax
United States41 Posts
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Hot_Bid/MSLPreview/OovScaryRecord.jpg) Not to mention his 27-0 TvZ streak. I'd say thats pretty untouchable as things go. | ||
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heynes
Germany201 Posts
On February 22 2010 20:47 Insight wrote: SC2 will never match Brood War as far as level of play required to be on top in my opinion, but it will make them more money which is sadly what this is all about In my Opinion people will of course play SC2 when it comes out, but its new and shiney and stuff. But as the game progresses and people get used to the graphics, and are more focusing on the gameplay and units, they will miss sc:bw. I mean watching Jangi doing perfect storms and epic reaver micro is unique. The feeling u have when watching the workers run away from that single stupid scarab, the tension, i havent had any of it watching sc2 streams, and i watched a lot of streams. But this is just me! Yesterday i watch the epic stork vs jaedong ace match from the winnersleague with a friend. that game is crazy it´s 10 min setting up and 30 min pure battles. And while i was like omg this game is so epic. he couldn´t get the epicness out of it. i was like -.- It´s so sad seeing no truely great games coming out nowadays.I will keep playing sc:bw and jagged alliance 2 1.13, not because my pc can´t run the newer graphic focused games, but because the games themself are the best , in terms of long time play. New games suck because they want u to have fun, either you are winning or loosing. to sum it up. You are totally right man ! | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On March 01 2010 12:42 evanthebouncy! wrote: I thought this is about Wax Angel!! BOO! Lol i've had a couple of other people say the same thing to me recently! Sorry for the inconvénience! | ||
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
On February 28 2010 21:58 Alethios wrote: Well for starters here is iloveoov: Not to mention his 27-0 TvZ streak. I'd say thats pretty untouchable as things go. Let's take any of recent good terran players [sarcasm ;]] Flash. Most recent stats, Record: 58 wins - 13 losses (81.69%) not to mention power outage while FLASH WAS IN DECENT POSITION, NOT ONLY IN DECENT POSITION, IN LAST 36(!) GAMES AGAINST ZERG HE LOST ONE LATE GAME AND IT WAS AGAINST HYUN CHEESE (or well prepared counter-build, hm) where is Your god now? (first time in my life i wrote it public, I feel sooo much better o_O) greets | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On March 05 2010 06:15 DracoVolantus wrote: Let's take any of recent good terran players [sarcasm ;]] Flash. Most recent stats, Record: 58 wins - 13 losses (81.69%) not to mention power outage while FLASH WAS IN DECENT POSITION, NOT ONLY IN DECENT POSITION, IN LAST 36(!) GAMES AGAINST ZERG HE LOST ONE LATE GAME AND IT WAS AGAINST HYUN CHEESE (or well prepared counter-build, hm) where is Your god now? (first time in my life i wrote it public, I feel sooo much better o_O) greets First off, what is your point exactly? Secondly, where are you getting this statistics from? TLPD shows Flash has lost to Jaedong, Calm, Kwanro and Zero since losing to Hyun. Even discounting the power outage incident, which is generally accepted to be a Flash loss (albeit a crappy one). Flash's lifetime record is 69.32%, not 81.69% as you claim. Thirdly, did you read the article? Even if Flash was dominating as much as oov was, it wouldn't change anything. The way iloveoov dominated people and the way Flash dominates now are completely different. Lastly, try to put a little more effort into your posting. I had to read your post over thrice before I understood what you were saying. | ||
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DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
On March 07 2010 09:26 Alethios wrote: First off, what is your point exactly? That Flash is every single bit similiar bonjwa as oov, boxer or nada was. On March 07 2010 09:26 Alethios wrote: Secondly, where are you getting this statistics from? TLPD shows Flash has lost to Jaedong, Calm, Kwanro and Zero since losing to Hyun. Even discounting the power outage incident, which is generally accepted to be a Flash loss (albeit a crappy one). Flash's lifetime record is 69.32%, not 81.69% as you claim. 1. He lost one LATE game, not ONE game in last 36 TvZ 2. Iloveoov lifetime record is 61.29%, but who cares? I just took record from (as I wrote) MOST RECENT 71 games. Sorry for capital letters before, hope You won't have to read this one post so many times ;] On March 07 2010 09:26 Alethios wrote: Thirdly, did you read the article? Even if Flash was dominating as much as oov was, it wouldn't change anything. The way iloveoov dominated people and the way Flash dominates now are completely different. The thing is I think, that Flash is dominating the scene in every single bit similiar way to how Iloveoov was dominating it, but I have to admit that I didn't see all oov games, and I know I could be wrong in the very same way that people who didn't see last 36 FvZ games, and didn't expect Flash smashing Jaedong's into pieces in ace match, after loosing many m&m's on purpose in order to explain that HE WAS IN DECENT POSITION. not winning. de-cent. and I took this word from interview with him, not out of thin air. Lastly, about comparison: One lost in Bo5, and lost in ace match are not same things. Game ending after early harassment and breaking through many windows of opportunities for both races are not the same. Lifetime record doesn't say anything about anybody, never, nowhere O_o (last sentence sounds better in my primary language, hm) cheers | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On March 07 2010 10:50 DracoVolantus wrote: 1. He lost one LATE game, not ONE game in last 36 TvZ What does this mean? On March 07 2010 10:50 DracoVolantus wrote: 2. Iloveoov lifetime record is 61.29%, but who cares? Indeed, who cares? If we're talking about the period when each player is considered a 'bonjwa', then a lifetime record is useless. Oov carried on for a long while after losing his aura of invincibility. On March 07 2010 10:50 DracoVolantus wrote: I just took record from (as I wrote) MOST RECENT 71 games. You didn't say anything about only taking the most recent 71 games. Also, why 71? Seems a rather arbitrary number chosen specifically to create the highest possible win percentage. On March 07 2010 10:50 DracoVolantus wrote: The thing is I think, that Flash is dominating the scene in every single bit similiar way to how Iloveoov was dominating it, but I have to admit that I didn't see all oov games, and I know I could be wrong in the very same way that people who didn't see last 36 FvZ games, and didn't expect Flash smashing Jaedong's into pieces in ace match, after loosing many m&m's on purpose in order to explain that HE WAS IN DECENT POSITION. not winning. de-cent. and I took this word from interview with him, not out of thin air. It's paragraphs like this that really tell me you have no idea what you're talking about and didn't understand what I was saying in my article. Put simply, bonjwa's dominated by being on a different level of competition to those around them. Flash and Jaedong consistently win by (generally) executing things perfectly on a consistent basis. Your protestations about Flash's high win percentage and "loosing many m&m's on purpose" are immaterial, and do nothing to advance the crux of your argument. Your argument is that "Flash dominates the scene in every single bit similiar way to how Iloveoov was dominating it". Demonstrate this to be the case, or find something else to occupy your time. | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
Actually that is pretty amazing, I have seen that screenshot so many times and I could never imagine that one day someone would be able to do even better. Great, great, article the amount of effort people pour into this site is nothing short of amazing. Makes me sad that it is all going to be directed at some game I have no real interest in soon enough. Many thanks for doing this writing this. | ||
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