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[Special] sAviOr - the Maestro

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Last Edited: 2007-06-25 13:46:46
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Moved to News - June 22 (Carnac) / and now back to Featured - June 26 - for more exposure

Note: This is an article translated from the Korean e-Sports magazine „esForce“. I tried my best, but I am neither a native English speaker nor a native Korean speaker. As I had some problems with the Korean structure and style of the language used in articles like this and had difficulties with certain phrases and idioms, the English translation often sounds a little bit awkward, since I chose to stay as close to the original as possible. This article does not represent my personal views. Although it is lacking in many ways, I hope you will enjoy the read.



                            CJ Entus sAviOr (Ma Jae Yoon): „Grandslam go!“


             
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Advanced to the MSL finals 5 times, 3 times MSL champion, advanced to the finals of OSL and MSL at the same time, went the „Royal Road“ to win the OSL and won the Proleague semifinals with CJ Entus. If you had to name the hottest 3 syllables in the e-sports world of 2006, they would have to be MA - JAE - YOON. Terran’s Emperor SlayerS_`BoxeR`, the Complete [ReD]NaDa, the Hero [Oops]Reach, the Dreamer Nal_rA or the Monster iloveoov - there was one player that flew higher than them all - sAviOr also known as „the Maestro“. By receiving the best player award at the Korean e-Sports Awards, which were held for the 2nd time in early 2007, sAviOr was now not only by his results, but also officially certificated the best player of 2006. Also in 2007, the prognosis that this will be sAviOr’s era seems to become a fact. sAviOr already qualified for the quarterfinals of both the Daum OSL 2007 as well as the GomTV Season2 MSL. Also in the Proleague he now gradually started to show results. If you would say that in 2006 sAviOr was raging like a hurricane, then he now is more like a gentle breeze, yet he is slowly transforming into someone who is able to sink deeply into the hearts of the fans.

From the 8 trends discussed in the recent popular business strategy book „Nike’s opponent is Nintendo“, we chose a few to analyze the plans and goals of sAviOr, who is now facing the 2007 season, from the view of business economics.



Egonomy

Egonomy means economy centered around oneself. The word is a combination of the words „ego“ and „economy“. Analyzing attitudes and special characteristics of males and females aged 17 to 39 in the changing Korean society, Cheil Communications defined „the P-Generation“, the generation to shift Korea’s fundamental paradigm regarding political, economical, societal and cultural sectors, based on „Participation“, „Passion“ and „Potential Power.“ The P-Generation’s concept about economy is referred to as „Egonomy“.

sAviOr is the front-runner of the P-Generation in the e-Sports world. Players like SlayerS_`BoxeR`, [ReD]NaDa, [Oops]Reach, [NC]...YellOw, Nal_rA and others who dominated Starcraft in its early stages after its release, had a different mindset.
Weighing their personal development as much as e-Sports development in general, the „old“ generation carried a great duty for e-Sports as a whole, resolutely giving up personal gain for a greater cause. In 2002, when SlayerS_`BoxeR`, who had gotten an individual sponsor with Tongyang Orion, heard that a team league was going to be opened, he donated over 100.000$ of sponsor money to the community. [ReD]NaDa and [NC]...YellOw made lease contracts and played for other teams in order to support their original team. Also [Oops]Reach and Nal_rA helped to maintain their original teams by transferring to other teams.

sAviOr is different. Since sAviOr rose to stardom after the team system had already been firmly established, he has no big interest in that kind of moral obligation. Rather than commiting himself to the far-reaching goal of expanding the e-Sports market, sAviOr’s devotion lies in his team’s and personal goals. One should just practice hard for the tourneys one personally wants to win – that’s the idea. This attitude derives from individualism and should not be confused with egoism. Egoism is putting one’s personal gain above everything without having any interest in others. Individualism however, also includes consideration of others and sympathy with community. In sAviOrs case this can be seen, as he, in spite of his busy schedule, often participates in special tourneys and events that internationally boost the e-Sports image. Having strong individual tendencies, the members of the P-Generation, represented by sAviOr, look at the world through their own eyes only. The „old“ generation, which had a strong idea of self-sacrifice, could possibly feel antipathy to this notion, but for the P-Generation this attitude is a general fact. Because the center of the evaluation of values lies in „me“, I will set goals that carry my personal passion.

sAviOr’s goal for this year’s season is not achieving what he failed to do last year, winning both OSL and MSL at the same time. Although it would be nice to accomplish this feat, more than that, his personal goal is to represent Korea by participating in the 2007 WCG Grand Final, which will be held in Seattle, USA. In addition to that, he aims to elevate CJ Entus to the top position in the Shinhan Proleague. There could be various reasons for sAviOr to have these goals, but one should not look down on the new generation’s tendency to focus on self-realization. sAviOr said: „I want to realize the goals I wasn’t able to achieve until now“ and „rather than accomplishing simple goals, I want to walk a path that has meaning“.



Time Share

sAviOr played 63 matches since 2007/01/01. This is almost the same number of games compared to 2006’s 76 matches. June is not even over, yet sAviOr has already played almost the same amount of matches as last year – that’s how busy sAviOr is. If you count 1 month for the off-season, and take the holidays and off-days into account, that makes around 1 game every two days.

An essential part of a progamer’s life is practice time. Most of the 12 pro-teams have a scheduled practice time of over 10 hours a day. sAviOr’s amount of training is just as much as the other players’, but as the number of tournaments he participates in increases, this practice time actually becomes insufficient.
sAviOr faces this lack of practice time with a special method. Because it is not possible to fill that gap with raw practice time with other players, he found a method to increase the efficiency of his training. Under the assumption that sAviOr’s understanding of Zerg is already complete, he plays against Zerg as Terran or Protoss in order to increase the understanding of his opponents races. By doing this, one can examine the opponent and oneself at the same time, hence minimizing wasted time. Coach Kim Dong Woo states that „sAviOr has the ability to discover Zerg’s and Terran’s weaknesses in the Terran vs Zerg matchup by training with Terran. There were cases when sAviOr won matches against Terran only by practicing with Terran before the match“. If you would apply this to business strategical thinking, it would be the same as focusing on the time/value rate rather than on the customers/value rate. Rather than giving great importance to the raw number of customers, you try to maximize the efficiency and distribution of time.

Time management has 4 characteristics. Increasing the time you do several things at once, while reducing unnecessarily wasted time. Having time and place correspond to each other and giving the time you spent on doing something significance.
sAviOr knows these concepts very well. He tries to compensate the problem of insufficient actual raw preparation time due to the increasing number of games, by studying replays of other players. Because replays can be watched at 16x speed, this can narrow the gap between sAviOr’s and other players’ practice time.
As the sheer number of games goes to the limit of sAviOr’s physical stamina, rather than greatly increasing the practice time he also takes some time to rest. Additionally, by always only training for the game that is right in front of him, rather than for game that will take place sometime in the future, sAviOr is trying to match time with place. And lastly, by concentrating all his attention to the game while practicing, even if the time is short, it is of significance.

sAviOr’s secret to maintaining a 60% winning percentage, even while having to deal with a tight schedule, is exactly this: efficient time management.



             
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Word-of-Mouth

Among the fans that fill up the stadiums at Starcraft league matches, only 30% are male. The mainstream mostly consists of females and also the cheering chants originated from females. About half of the female fan population doesn’t know how to properly play the game. So what could be the reason for the female fans’ interest in Starcraft?

Experts say the reason is word-of-mouth advertisement. Fans who heard about outstanding players like SlayerS_`BoxeR`, [NC]...YellOw or others, come to the matches and gradually get acquainted with the newer players and thus become another layer in the meshwork of the fanbase. These kind of fans are usually only interested in the players’ looks, but gradually get more and more fascinated by the game and also become „hardcore fans“.
In business economics, there is a similar strategy, called „word-of-mouth marketing“. Word-of-mouth marketing plays a big role in the decision making process of the consumer whether to buy a product or not. Hence, word-of-mouth advertisement is an important method among the marketing strategies which aim attract fans who consume e-Sports contents.

sAviOr has the ability to stir up rumors and gossip among the fans. In the group selection ceremony that takes place before the individual leagues start, sAviOr likes to create some rivalry with other strong players. In the Daum OSL 2007, he did this by drawing iloveoov into his group, and when he participated in the Shinhan OSL for the first time in 2006, he had a competitive rivalry with Midas[gm]. Also in the MSL sAviOr provided incentive for gossip. After winning his first championship he called upon Nal_rA in the CYON MSL to fire up the atmosphere and also didn’t avoid strong opponents like [Oops]Reach.
sAviOr’s great instinct was revealed in the Superfights, sponsored by CJ Media. In the first Superfight, sAviOr, who participated in a supporting role, became aware of the great power of such a one-time-win-or-lose event. In SlayerS_`BoxeR`s farewell match before his army enrollment, sAviOr wrote history by „unscrupulously“ defeating Boxer 3:0. He faced and defeated Boxer again after 7 months, when the „Dream match“ event was held on children’s day 2007/05/05 in Seoul. Also, when news got out that in the 3rd Superfight MSL and OSL winners would face off in a final showdown, sAviOr went for it with all he got and won the MSL title. After that, when the title best player of the era was at stake, sAviOr dominated OSL titleholder [ReD]NaDa 3:1 in Superfight 3 and was acknowledged the best. This karma continued as sAviOr later won the championship of the Shinhan OSL Season3 with 3:1 and now truly had climbed the throne.

By cleverly creating rivalry and defeating his rivals in all matchups, sAviOr hyped the fan’s word-of-mouth advertisement and in a short time managed to elevate himself to the player that represents Korean e-Sports today. sAviOr hyped his fans with determined and confident comments and managed to pull off victories, showing that he is a true professional. That way he attained nicknames like „BonJwa“ or „Maestro“.



E-Factor

Starcraft is a game. It is something to be enjoyed, so it needs a certain entertainment factor. In the early days of Starcraft, playing single player mode or against the computer may have been fun, but by providing an internet platform like Battle.net where people can play against each other, Starcraft really got popular.

After the first progamers emerged, it became possible to show each players’ individual specialty through the medium of nationwide TV broadcasting. Be it SlayerS_`BoxeR`s dropship play, [NC]...YellOw’s „Storm-Style“ or [Oops]Reach’s macro of death – by creating each player’s special in-game personality, their popularity increased even more.
However the leagues have been in existence for close to 10 years now, and nowadays victory is not necessarily connected with one’s individuality anymore. As strategies and game management create winning scenarios, no new element was added. The factor of entertainment was gradually beginning to disappear.

Then sAviOr, who sensed the decreasing popularity of the leagues, stepped forward to provide some entertainment. At the GomTV Season2 MSL group selection ceremony he called upon SK Telecom’s GoRush and officially announced that he would play as Terran against him.
sAviOr commented: „As this was a slightly provocative move, it is possible that the fans misunderstood me, however even it had been not GoRush but another Zerg, I still would have announced to play Terran“. This move was clearly incited by the diminishing popularity of the Proleague and individual leagues. It is a wink to some players, who even though they compete, show no variety and on the whole only use the currently popular strategies showing almost the same game everytime. sAviOr showed us this conceptual change, what previous progamers failed to do. Even though sAviOr lost the game he played with Terran, this issue was discussed in every available medium and such helped the e-Sports world to heaten up again. It was the best contribution an entertainer could have ever made, so to speak.


Evangelist

Some people say that the world’s first case of successful business was „religion“. Among the religions Christianity is one of the „oldest brands on the market“. The word „Evangelist“ is a religious term and means preacher or missionary. A person, who shares, spreads and passes on his religious determination and passion.

sAviOr is the greatest „Evangelist“ since SlayerS_`BoxeR`. Of course overseas, but also in Korea sAviOr holds the record for the Starcraft player with the most coverage. sAviOr’s popularity also meets international interest. sAviOr’s every move was covered by the English TV Station BBC, which is interested in and reports about the Korean e-Sports scene, several times.
In a special feature article, Germany’s leading news magazine „Spiegel“ introduced sAviOr as „the next leader of Korea’s e-Sports industry successing SlayerS_`BoxeR`“.

sAviOr is not only a national matter anymore. He became a missionary that spreads Korea’s endogeneously developed e-Sports culture to the world.
In order to do this, sAviOr revised his goals for this year. Doing well in the individual leagues and Proleague has become a natural matter now. It is about time for sAviOr to qualify for an international tournament and win an international title representing Korea.
sAviOr revealed: „I want to win a tournament like WCG, where players from all over the world gather, not tournaments such as CKCG, WEG or IEF which were held in China and mostly consisted of Chinese and Koreans“.

sAviOr, who now carries the responsibility to represent the Korean brand called e-Sports, will now start his history as the person to elevate e-Sports, the steady-seller with loyal fans, to a worldwide best-seller with passionate fans!


             
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sAviOr - 2007 statistics (until 07/06/13)

vZ vT vP Total
MSL 0/1(T) 6/3 5/3 11/7
OSL - 15/9 2/0 17/9
Proleague 1/3 1/1 2/1 4/5
Superfight 1/0 2/1 2/1 5/2
Total 2/4 24/14 11/5 37/23
*Teamplay 2/1 39/24 (61%)


sAviOr - 2006 statistics

vZ vT vP Total
MSL 7/5 9/4 11/2 27/11
OSL 1/0 0/1 - 1/1
Proleague 6/2 3/1 5/2 14/5
Superfight - 7/1 - 7/1
Total 14/7 19/7 16/4 49/18
*Teamplay 5/4 54/22 (71%)


             
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Interview


CJ Entus’ sAviOr had to deal with the most number of matches in 2007. sAviOr’s name appeared in every final. Achieving these good results, sAviOr elevated himself to a huge star the e-Sports world couldn’t live without. Also, by advancing to the quarterfinals in both MSL and OSL 2007, he proved that his past fame was no error. Although the fact that his team CJ Entus is dwelling in the middle ranks of the Proleague somewhat tarnishes his fame, sAviOr still sustains his team like a pine tree that is green all year.We talked with sAviOr about his past, present and future.



The 80% that made me big – Superfight

The fans didn’t value sAviOr value very highly. Until October 2006 that is. If he won it was because of luck, if he didn’t, there weren’t many fans who cared to criticize a lot. There were even fans who called him „Ma Jae Woon“ (運 -luck) [instead of Ma Jae Yoon]. However, after one certain best of 5 series sAviOr’s name was engraved into the heads of the fans. After completely defeating the Emperor SlayerS_`BoxeR`, who had a 70% winning percentage against Zerg, with 3:0, sAviOr was started to be seen in a new light.


You seem to really like the Superfights.

sAviOr > It’s the Superfights that made me big. Of 6 Superfights I participated in 5, starting from the first 1st Superfight against SlayerS_`BoxeR` until the Dreammatch that was held on children’s day. I thought that it is an opportunity to show: „that’s the kind of player sAviOr is“. Facing SlayerS_`BoxeR`, [ReD]NaDa, iloveoov and Bisu[Shield] also created some competitive rivalries. It helped me in several ways.

What were your most memorable tourneys?

sAviOr > It can’t help but thinking that I was only included in SlayerS_`BoxeR`s farewell match as an extra. But as I had some good results to show, I got scouted for the match. I came to the conclusion that with playing those games on that stage, I was able to deliver performances I failed to deliver before. Gradually my desire to perform started to grow and everytime I had the opportunity I wanted to come out for a match.

But when I heard that in Superfight 3 MSL and OSL titleholders would meet for a showdown, I started to feel nervous. At that time NaDa performing strikingly well, so I felt excited because I wasn’t able to meet him in the MSL. All the time during the matches against NaDa I mesmerized myself „I must win at any cost“. Thanks to that some really great games were shown and I believe that also the fans were thankful for a match with no regrets.
The funny thing is, this fate with NaDa carried on until the Shinhan OSL Season3. I remember when I faced him again in the finals I told myself „let’s make this as intense as the Superfight was“.



The rival of the Maestro

Who could sAviOr’s rival be? The experts count in SK Telecom’s iloveoov, Pantech EX’s [ReD]NaDa or MBCGame Hero’s Bisu[Shield]. However, sAviOr hasn’t officially announced any rival yet.


You played more than 10 matches with [ReD]NaDa in a short time. You showed some tension packed games.

sAviOr > After the Superfight I faced him in the Shinhan OSL Season3 finals, the Shinhan Masters and other events. We didn’t have a big record against each other before, but having played more then 10 matches with him during about 3 months, I really think he is a great player. He is also a player with great desire and determination to win.

Who could be your rival?

sAviOr > The community names iloveoov, Nada, Bisu and others as my rivals. But I don’t think of any one particular player as my rival. Sure, the more matches you play the more you want to play against certain players. However, I don’t want to be lopsided to one side only and create such a rivalry. Rather than pointing out one single player, I want to face a them all one by one. The more I play with all players, the happier the fans will be and the greater their numbers will become. Also for the further development of e-Sports, I want to create competitive rivalry with a variety of players.



King of annual earnings, Ma Jae Yoon


After the recently finished salary negotiations for 2007, sAviOr now holds the top position in the team. He didn’t tell us concrete numbers, but a steep raise is to be presumed. Of the 6 individual leagues last year, sAviOr won 3 and finished 2nd once, making the name of CJ Entus famous. Officials assume that sAviOr’s earnings exceeded 100.000.000 South Korean won by far (about 110.000$+).


Did salary negotiations go well?

sAviOr > The company treated me well so my salary increased to some degree. I can’t reveal the concrete amount but it is the highest among the team.


Getting the highest salary on the team must be a great responsibility

sAviOr > I know that my salary is not for last year’s accomplishments but payment for my future value. I want to properly take on a leading role, knowing that that the company’s expectations for me are this high. I want to stand on top together with CJ Entus in the Proleague in the first or second half of the year, and will do my best to lead us to the championship. And personally, I want to challenge Boxer’s title, as the king of yearly income in the e-Sports world.


             
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It’s hard - but there’s no time to rest


sAviOr played 76 matches from 2006/01/01 until 2006/31/12. Compared to other players, he played a lot of matches. However, the number of games he had to stomach from 2007/01/01 until 2007/06/13 rivals last year’s amount of matches. Playing a total of 63 matches, sAviOr had a 61% winning percentage. The reason is the increasing general number of games in the leagues, but also special events that requested him to participate and a number of finals he had to play additionally drastically increased that number. sAviOr confessed that he is tired.


The amount of games increased. Isn’t it exhausting?

sAviOr > My body got used to it since 2006, so I am accustomed to the situation. But still, stomaching this murderous schedule for 1 one whole year is difficult. However, more than physical difficulties, I have many mental burdens. I fear the sharp criticism that would follow when I lose or am not able to show good matches to the fans who are interested in my games. However, it is not the time to rest yet. I really do want to rest and have some leisure, but It’s hard to throw away my obligation to take the chance to push my career forward. In my current situation, show good results and thus receiving recognition and appreciation from some more people, is the strength that sustains me.

Your record for the first half of the Proleague season isn’t very good

sAviOr > There is no particular reason for that. Since my record on the maps used in the 2006 season was extremely good, now that my winning percentage is going down there are many fans who come to the conclusion „sAviOr’s era is coming to an end“. Some also speak of a slump. However, I am dealing with this comfortably. Theres the rule, that when there is a winning streak, there must also be a losing streak.
Nevertheless I’d have a request. Repeatedly hearing „slump“ by the fans affects the players twice as much. I don’t think of it as a slump but continously hearing it makes me worry and gradually get anxious.



A lazy genius?


Before getting the nickname „Maestro“, sAviOr’s alias was „Genius“. Some also called him a prodigy, but most of the community thought genius was more fitting. He got this nickname because even though he doesn’t practice that much, he always very quickly finds counterstrategies.


We hear the community praises you as a genius

sAviOr > It seems that’s because of my practice method. When I have a match against Terran, I practice more with Terran than with my main race Zerg. Some people may call this arrogant, but it is the practice method that fits me the best. My analysis of Zerg is complete, so I found this system is suitable to get to know Terran’s characteristics and strategies. This way I am able to understand my opponent better, so I invest more time in it.

There’s also word that you have a special talent to discover winning strategies

sAviOr > Practicing with my opponents races, especially in the case of Terran, I found it easy to discover good moments for attacks. As also Terran is no unbeatable race, there must be some weaknesses, and if I can take advantage of those, I can win. If I trust in myself and am satisfied with me, then I can win even without largely increasing the amount of practice. Instead I am doing a lot of simulations. I imagine a certain situation in my head and constantly analyze what reaction would be appropriate and thus form a plan. A high a amount of practice doesn’t seem to matter for my results. Decreasing repetitive practice and keeping up your concentration is the way to maintain a good winning percentage even when having to play many games.

Finding out how your opponents think – is that the the idea?

sAviOr > Yes, that’s the reason why I play with Terran a lot. At first I did it for fun, but as I was getting better, my understanding of Terran increased. Studying Terran’s building placement strategies and attack timing, it helped me to discover good attack timing, diversional movements and counter-strategies for Zerg.



sAviOr as Terran


On May 26th, sAviOr spoke out a historical challenge. Not with his main race Zerg, but with Terran did he challenge the „magician of macro“ GoRush. The result was a loss, but the challenge was meaningful in many ways.


You played a match as Terran against GoRush

sAviOr > It was an idea I already had in mind before the group selection ceremony. After picking a Zerg player, it was my plan to reveal that I would play as Terran. It just happend that this player turned out to be GoRush, with whom I was familiar with from before. When I discussed this plan with the coaching staff during the off-season, I worried a lot. But I thought that the e-Sports world needed a change. I could feel that also the fans dislike the fact that the games are played with a repetitive pattern. I volunteered to take the lead and show a different facette of me.

Your impressions of playing with Terran

sAviOr > I had prepared for standard Terran play. No bunkering or other early game strategies. I had planned to focus on a tense macro battle, but GoRush dealt very well with it. I would have never thought he would use a queen to infest a command center.

Did you change your mind after the match?

sAviOr > After I announced that I would play as Terran, the fans reactions were very mixed, but on the whole most people thought it would be interesting. It seems like it was the best present I could have given to the e-Sports fans, so I am satisfied. Instead of not playing with Terran anymore, because I lost one match, I feel that it would be fun to it again from time to time.



Challenge! - The Grandslam


In Tennis or Golf there’s the concept of a „grandslam“. It is to achieve the titles of all major tournaments during one’s career. sAviOr is currently challening the e-Sports grandslam. He already won the OSL and MSL but still wasn’t able to achieve victory at the WCG, the biggest international tournament, and the Proleague, the most prestigious teamleague.


This season you again succeeded to advance to the quarterfinals in both MSL and OSL

sAviOr > In this years’ Starleagues I don’t feel a lot pressure or tension. Day by day I practice to match the game schedule that is given to me, I go out and do my best to win the game, that’s all - there is no big meaning attached. What I want is to reach the finals of the Proleague and to stand on the stage of the WCG 2007 Grand Final in Seattle. I want to stand on a stage that I haven’t felt before.

Your goal to win the Proleague is understandable, but the WCG are a surprise

sAviOr > I have no experience with the WCG yet. I participated in the national qualifiers twice, but failed in both. It is my wish to wave the Korean flag in an international tournament. I think it is a good opportunity to broaden my horizon and having the nation’s honor/fame on stake and fighting for it is also nice. I also want to take some days off and experience a different country’s culture.


CJ Entus currently doesn’t have a very good record in the Proleague. What plans do you have?

sAviOr > As the average age of our teammembers gets younger, their thirst for a goal has to decreased. Much or Xellos still feel a great disappointment about losing on last seasons finals’ stage. They should realize much of an achievement it already is to even get to the finals’ stage. Especially so as it is stage where over 100.000 people gather. I want to have a chance to show our team’s capability in front of those people. I hope we can get our teamwork together and eventually unite to achieve our goal.


             
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Elsi
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United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 21 2007 18:32 GMT
#2
excellent work man^^

you deserve a star!
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United States37500 Posts
June 21 2007 18:40 GMT
#3
Amazing job~
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1004 Posts
June 21 2007 18:46 GMT
#4
holy shit, that's a long artical. It's got to be alot of work.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 21 2007 18:54 GMT
#5
That's amazing
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
June 21 2007 19:02 GMT
#6
Wow, great article, well worth reading.

Thanks!
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
June 21 2007 19:02 GMT
#7
Christ this is long, therefore MAD props for translating. Thanks snowbird!
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Osaka27149 Posts
June 21 2007 19:13 GMT
#8
Really unbelievable work, I can only imagine the time it took. Huge props to you for undertaking it. I enjoyed every line.
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June 21 2007 19:22 GMT
#9
Cannot thank you enough for this, great work.
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Poland303 Posts
June 21 2007 19:24 GMT
#10
geez... you rock man!
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Sweden1696 Posts
June 21 2007 19:29 GMT
#11
Awesome work!!!
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Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-21 19:34:06
June 21 2007 19:33 GMT
#12
Yowza. Thanks! Just read the whole thing.
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Australia3091 Posts
June 21 2007 19:43 GMT
#13
Bloody hell that's niiiiice!!!
Oh no
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Cameroon1767 Posts
June 21 2007 19:49 GMT
#14
Damn, thats awesome! Thanks a million man!
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Romania3955 Posts
June 21 2007 20:00 GMT
#15
GJ! I imagine this was a shitload of work...
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Argentina1204 Posts
June 21 2007 20:01 GMT
#16
duuuuuuuuuuuuuude
amazing, thanks!
/me reading
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China350 Posts
June 21 2007 20:03 GMT
#17
Incredibly long, tons of work, thanks alot
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GTR
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51449 Posts
June 21 2007 20:13 GMT
#18
woah
woah
woah!!
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Czech Republic162 Posts
June 21 2007 20:23 GMT
#19
Article of the year
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June 21 2007 20:31 GMT
#20
Thanks a lot snowbird :D
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Iceland1391 Posts
June 21 2007 20:46 GMT
#21
The first part write by esForce is full of journalist'bullshits and stupid concepts to create a hero from a guy that has an amazingly hudge talent at bw.
The interview is very interesting.
Thank you for the translation.
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Profile Joined November 2006
Canada142 Posts
June 21 2007 20:58 GMT
#22
that will be cool to see savior playing in wcg final if he qualifies. i did not understand how much savior get paid. what currency is his pay being shown in?
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Sweden473 Posts
June 21 2007 21:39 GMT
#23
Awesome! Thanks alot \o/
men du... Tagga!
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Romania622 Posts
June 21 2007 21:40 GMT
#24
love u man }{
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Poland5555 Posts
June 21 2007 21:55 GMT
#25
Awesome job, man!:D
.JuniOr.
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United States25 Posts
June 21 2007 21:57 GMT
#26
Thank you! Great translation and great read!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 21 2007 22:04 GMT
#27
Whoa.
I'm gonna need some popcorn.
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4784 Posts
June 21 2007 22:05 GMT
#28
Holy fuck. "Thank you" is shallow and vague... It really doesn't represent 10% of our gratitude.
Incredible
OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
June 21 2007 22:12 GMT
#29
Thanks for the translation! That was amazing.

ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
June 21 2007 22:24 GMT
#30
Wow, great translation snowbird! I can't believe you took on such a lengthy article.

It certainly was worth it. Incredible work. Thank you.
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MURICA15980 Posts
June 21 2007 22:26 GMT
#31
Wow very good work. Nice read.
pzeta
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Spain106 Posts
June 21 2007 22:27 GMT
#32
great job. thank you
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
June 21 2007 22:45 GMT
#33
Well as if I didn't think that I could like savior anymore, my views ahve just been changed :D Awesome read thanks snowbird.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
June 21 2007 23:15 GMT
#34
awesome work
especially for someone who has german? for his first language
:D
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
June 21 2007 23:20 GMT
#35
Amazing job really. I always wondered what ESForce articles are like.
Mad props 2 you sir!!
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Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States122 Posts
June 21 2007 23:31 GMT
#36
AMAZING!
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 21 2007 23:37 GMT
#37
Good job snowbird =)
You translated a super-long article o.O

I can imagine how long that would have taken.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
June 21 2007 23:42 GMT
#38
<3 to you
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United States514 Posts
June 21 2007 23:46 GMT
#39
man i didn't think i'd ever have to read this much on TL XD. thanks a lot for the article i enjoyed it =]
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Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 21 2007 23:49 GMT
#40
if you put that much effort on translating/writing it all, i will read it all with care.. ;D
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I-Emerge
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States435 Posts
June 21 2007 23:50 GMT
#41
Wow!

This was very insightful. Thanks for the time end effot you put into this. This long artical is one of the best traslations I have ever read. It was great that you put the pictures there as well. They served to keep the artical interesting. Great Work!

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United States3594 Posts
June 21 2007 23:54 GMT
#42
WAOW Thanks so much, you are awsome!!!
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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
June 22 2007 00:00 GMT
#43
This gave me a lot of insight within pro gaming. Makes me want to do it for myself - -;
Piano
Profile Joined June 2007
Korea (South)401 Posts
June 22 2007 00:27 GMT
#44
do you have a subscription to esForce? or is the magazine available online?

thanks for the translation!
SoMuchBetter
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Australia10606 Posts
June 22 2007 01:01 GMT
#45
good shit
thx snowbird
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VenetianSnares
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Netherlands292 Posts
June 22 2007 01:13 GMT
#46
First of all thanks snowbird! Awesome that you took the time to translate an article this size.

Second I would say it's a great article with a great interview. I like how he wants to play at wcg.
RebelHeart
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
New Zealand722 Posts
June 22 2007 02:03 GMT
#47
Cheers bro : D
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Kassios
Profile Joined May 2006
France1424 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-22 02:20:47
June 22 2007 02:18 GMT
#48
very nice work, ty

.. i wondered, is savior out of shape? he's losing often lately comparatively to the last year
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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
June 22 2007 02:26 GMT
#49
This was beautifully written.
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useLess
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United States4781 Posts
June 22 2007 02:37 GMT
#50
Awesome translation. Thats one fat article for us readers
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42673 Posts
June 22 2007 02:44 GMT
#51
Awesome interview. Thanks for all the hard work.
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himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
June 22 2007 03:04 GMT
#52
thannks for the article, but I have to say ma jae yoon is the worst candidate for SC embassador. One of the most boring players, playstyle and personality wise (from the succesful players)
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 22 2007 03:23 GMT
#53
that is amazing.

thank you snowbird.
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MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
June 22 2007 03:31 GMT
#54
Wowza, that's a huge wall of text. I can only imagine how much time and effort it took to tranlate it all so well. Awesome work! :cheers:
~Legit~
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States408 Posts
June 22 2007 03:57 GMT
#55
Wow! amazing, thx a ton
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Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
June 22 2007 04:01 GMT
#56
I didn't finish reading all of it (roughly half, i'll save the other half for later), but...

whoa.

+ Show Spoiler +
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Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States973 Posts
June 22 2007 04:10 GMT
#57
"My analysis of Zerg is complete,"

good interview btw!
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Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
June 22 2007 04:14 GMT
#58
Thank you snowbird! That was an enjoyable read.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
HolyToss1911
Profile Joined May 2007
354 Posts
June 22 2007 06:06 GMT
#59
Good job snowbird

thx a lot
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
June 22 2007 07:54 GMT
#60
savior is such a cool guy ^__^

cant believe i use to hate on him
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
June 22 2007 08:21 GMT
#61
<3 snowbird
<3 savior
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
June 22 2007 10:04 GMT
#62
thanks guys ;p
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logitech
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Canada230 Posts
June 22 2007 12:25 GMT
#63
holy christ snowbird, this is extremely awesome stuff you put up. Thank you so so much!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 22 2007 12:32 GMT
#64
On June 22 2007 17:21 azndsh wrote:
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United States1654 Posts
June 22 2007 14:12 GMT
#65
Awesome, thanks a lot!
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Poland1124 Posts
June 22 2007 17:27 GMT
#66
So much work you put into translating, thank you.

PS if sometime there a similar article about Chal is going to come up, one of titles will be "F-Factor" :D
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Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
June 22 2007 18:28 GMT
#67
just pure awesomeness...thanks so much for the translation!!! keep up the good work!
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Piano
Profile Joined June 2007
Korea (South)401 Posts
June 23 2007 01:47 GMT
#68
On June 22 2007 19:04 snowbird wrote:
thanks guys ;p


is the subscription available online? if it is, maybe someone can also translate some more articles? i wouldn't mind doing a few either, if it's online
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Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
June 23 2007 02:40 GMT
#69
may this article never die
ever
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Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-23 06:14:05
June 23 2007 06:13 GMT
#70
On June 23 2007 10:47 Piano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2007 19:04 snowbird wrote:
thanks guys ;p


is the subscription available online? if it is, maybe someone can also translate some more articles? i wouldn't mind doing a few either, if it's online


you can find the subscription here http://esforce.fighterforum.com/

this week's issue has an article on Reach, see here http://www.fighterforum.com/newsphoto/news_photo_list.asp?cat=ESF
@riotsnowbird
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 24 2007 03:13 GMT
#71
amazing article and very very nice translation... thank you!!!!
RaiSad
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States325 Posts
June 24 2007 11:37 GMT
#72
i love this article but i think it is an unlucky one, cause since i read this, sAviOr has lost 2 big game so far

i'm really sad
dyodyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
June 25 2007 08:05 GMT
#73
wow nice article and thank you very much for the translation!

Damn, Savior is trying to establish a legacy this early? his answers to all of the questions seem very genuine that one would be a moron to not appreciate what he is trying to do for e-sports. The play-as-terran move alone puts him up there as high, if not higher?, as Boxer himself!
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 25 2007 13:44 GMT
#74
Moving this back from News to Featured Threads, because I believe it will get more exposure there than by being an old news post!
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Turkey90 Posts
June 25 2007 15:44 GMT
#75
gj many thanks
allowicious
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States972 Posts
June 25 2007 23:12 GMT
#76
excellent article
excellent translation

thanks for the work you put into translating it snowbird
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HungerForMore
Profile Joined September 2006
Afghanistan420 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 01:46:51
June 26 2007 01:45 GMT
#77
That's the best read i've had for a loooong time, thank you so much. It was great.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
June 26 2007 06:13 GMT
#78
interesting read, and interesting that savior is now focused on wcg and proleague titles.

hope to see him at next wcg then. as others have said very long translation so thank you for that expenditure.
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Profile Joined June 2006
Korea (South)1448 Posts
June 26 2007 06:50 GMT
#79
thx snowbird
I really wanted to read this article.
사마난
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Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
June 26 2007 12:15 GMT
#80
woah, loved every word of it! Thanks so much for posting this!
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Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-26 12:45:20
June 26 2007 12:18 GMT
#81
Go Go sAviOr! <3


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