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On September 11 2017 00:27 Olli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2017 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:21 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:15 Elentos wrote:On September 11 2017 00:12 Olli wrote:On September 11 2017 00:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 11 2017 00:03 Elentos wrote:On September 10 2017 23:58 Olli wrote:On September 10 2017 23:51 DieuCure wrote:
Is Neeb better than Taeja ? Has Neeb won 11 Premier tournaments? On September 10 2017 23:58 Bayaz90 wrote:On September 10 2017 23:57 Inflicted wrote:
Not sure if it was mentioned but Stats vs SpeCial is the first confirmed Blizzcon matchup Ouch  poor Major He took 2 maps off Stats in a Bo5 at GSL vs the World. There's some hope at least! Stats can't allow himself to lose to any non-Korean at Blizzcon. He's gotta round out his super successful year with even more success. You say Stats had a good year? Damn you are right! I just noticed that he got top4 or better in 10 of the last 13 premier tournaments. WOW this might be the best 12 months of a starcraft2 player ever, damn. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, maybe some casters or writers might actually notice it as well now. It isn't. Dismissive. But I think even you can't deny that Stats doesn't get the praise he deserves for his 2017 from casters and the like. That I can agree with. I don't agree at all that he's had the best year of any player ever. I am not saying this is a sure thing, but it should be up for consideration at least imo You can consider it, but I don't agree with it at all. If you're a good player nowadays, you're almost guaranteed a Ro16 in GSL since the competition is so thin now. Plus we've had years when players won 3 Korean tournaments in one year and never dropped off in skill, while Stats definitely did mid 2017. Mvp's 2011 was better imo, Zest's 2014 was as well. Arguments to be made about Life and Taeja when they peaked. Also an argument to be made about Maru in 2014 or 15. The last three I'm not sure though, but they felt much better at the time.
I agree that the scene lost a lot of players and thus it might be a bit easier to make a ro16 for example. But we are talking about ro4s+, even if it is a bit easier to get there now than in 2014 the pure consistency is still incredibly impressive.
Like during Mvp's era there weren't as many strong contenders as now, it was in theory way easier to make ro4s.
Also if we talk about dropping in skill what are we talking about exactly? This isn't about Stats being the undisputed best player at any time during the year, it's about his results. In mid 2017 he made a ro8 in gsl, a top4 in ssl and a top16 in the super tournament. Yes that's in comparison worse but still decent enough.
Let's compare that to Mvp's 2011 for example, after winning GSL in january he made the ro32, code a and another ro32 in code s. That's actually a huge drop if you ask me 
Again, Stats made top4 or better in 10 out of 13 premier tournaments in the last 12 months. Mvp went top4 or better in 10 out of 14 premier tournaments in 2011 and if we look at some of these weekenders they were basically a joke (Blizzcon, WCG inarguably, maybe even more  )
I am not saying Stats' last 12 months are definitely the best ever, but it should be up there for consideration. Denying that seems absurd to me.
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Congrats to Stats! double starleague and so many top 4 places this year, what a great showing
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Well played and a well deserved championship
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Stats is the man. Glad he won, deserved another title this year.
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Stats with the title! Looking at his last 12 months is just crazy. Hopefully more people notice that now.
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Well done stats! Blizzcon is next!
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On September 25 2017 03:34 BeaTeR wrote:
Well done stats! Blizzcon is next!
Super Tournament is next, actually. Just a few days from now.
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On September 25 2017 04:16 pvsnp wrote:Super Tournament is next, actually. Just a few days from now.
oh my bad, forgot about it
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What can you say about a guy who is so solid, so good you take him for granted? My goodness you have the top player in WCS points with Blizzcon right around the corner and nobody has posted since 9/24?
Stats in my opinion has to be the favorite to win blizzcon along with 3-4 other guys. Nobody can make a better case for themselves. To play as well as he has when he had his ticket to Blizzcon punched way back in March?
I'm going to cite 3 matches that showed Stats true greatness this year.
Rd 8 GSL s 3 vs Rogue.. Rogue was on fire. He was totally motivated because he needed a big finish to make Blizzcon. He was 14th in WCS points. Motivation and form aside Rogue could not beat Stats.
SSL season 2 final vs Dark. Similar situation. Dark was playing great and just beat 2 Protoss players in good form. He beat Dear 4-2 and then Classic 4-2 to get to the final against Stats. I thought Dark would probably win that match but Stats was too good. Even against a super star player in top form Stats prevailed.
GSL season 1 rd 8 vs Innovation. You all know this one. Down 2-0 Stats looked out matched against the unbeatable Innovation. Tastosis had Stats beaten and over at that point. He does a 3-0 run to win the match and eventually wins the tournament.
These matches proved how hard it is to beat Stats in a best of 5 or best of 7 match in an event that really matters. This guy is going to be a tough out for anybody that's for sure. He might not seem to be in the best form right now after Master's Coliseum but it will take an incredible player at the top of his game to eliminate Stats and there is a good chance of that happens it will be the final.
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Is this guy the most easily underrated player of all time?
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Another ro8 showing after 3 matches playing only his worst matchup.
Stats plays any top tier player or even a second tier player who is good at PVP, people favor the odds for the other player. The man gets so little credit that it's crazy. Highest WCS points in history, consistent top performance in top tier offline tournaments? Oh he's just another "solid" player and would instantly lose the benefit of the doubt when his online results suffer a little bit. Not saying that Stats is always in top form (who really is?), but that he is so easily underestimated. It gets old.
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Stats streaming after his GSL victory! Tune in!
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Stats just beat the most in form player in the tournament, how do you like them apples.
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Good shit. Stats is a beast. GSL #2 lets go!
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Woohoo! gotta chat up those games! (and update OP, I know)
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Another victory for stats the 'underdog'. This guy is not an underdog in any match he plays in an offline premier tournament.
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It might be true that Stats is not in good form with his big army engagements right now. But his way of approaching a bo7 series has really gone a long way. He's lowkey becoming the best player in LotV.
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What an underdog run this is. Hopefully he gives us another year like last year!
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EPT
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