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Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
May 01 2017 22:32 GMT
#3301
At least he isn't the only former great protoss that has completely fallen off. sOs is right there with him. Hopefully one day he regains his form.
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
May 01 2017 23:42 GMT
#3302
On May 02 2017 06:24 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2017 05:26 Vutalisk wrote:
Well, it doesn't look like Zest plays much SC2 these days as even if he was in a lead vs Maru and still managed to throw it all away with slow warp in... Sigh... What happened to Zest?


Direct opposite of what he used to be. In 2014 he was that player who'd constantly look dead and somehow always win. Now no matter how ahead he gets he still always kill himself

edit: after looking at his recent games, his physical skill doesn't seem to be slacking, its the fact he never knows how to attack or transition or pick a build.

The fact he's losing due to tactical mistakes, and not bad mechanical ability, is a good thing in some sense. It should be easy to improve if he focuses on finding his own mistakes, reviewing replays, asking fellow players for guidance etc. I think he's one of the players that really needs coaching/team support to teach him what to do.

I agree with your last point here. Zest needs some helps as he seems lost to me. It doesn't seem like he is looking for helps though. He is former teammate of Stats who is doing well lately. Also, he is a good friend of herO who is also doing well. It is not like he lacks of Protoss friends to ask for some advices or practice.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2017 06:28 GMT
#3303
Just doesn't seem particularly motivated to me at the moment.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
0mg_t1red
Profile Joined March 2013
Russian Federation104 Posts
May 02 2017 14:50 GMT
#3304
Was such a pain to watch Zest's performance on GSL, hope he can regain his strength and reach new levels of greatness.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
May 02 2017 15:56 GMT
#3305
On May 02 2017 15:28 Olli wrote:
Just doesn't seem particularly motivated to me at the moment.

Well, can't really blame him for not being motivated given he keeps losing everywhere. It has been quite a long slump already. He started to lose his mojo since GSL 2016 Season 2 and continues to get worse and worse.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2017 16:03 GMT
#3306
Could just not be enjoying the game at the moment, allowing himself to take a bit of a laid back approach since he's earned a ton of money from SC2. All speculation at this point until he confirms anything.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 02 2017 18:50 GMT
#3307
+ GSL S1 2016 was a lot of DT abuse against terran, then they countered him and he became bad at this game

+ Players wasnt that good in s1 2016, now there is a lot of multitask etc ( from s2 2016)

+ When you achieve a goal you lose motivation, same for Byun
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 02 2017 19:32 GMT
#3308
He didn't become bad when people started countering a DT build, that's silly to say. Despite not being as good as early 2016, he was still a very good player towards the end of the year. Can't be compared to right now.

Players actually were MUCH better in S1 2016 than they were in S2. Dark, Stats, TY, Zest were all amazing then. In S2 only ByuN was good, everyone else really wasn't, which is why sOs made the finals and put on an awful display.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
May 02 2017 19:37 GMT
#3309
On May 03 2017 03:50 DieuCure wrote:
+ GSL S1 2016 was a lot of DT abuse against terran, then they countered him and he became bad at this game

+ Players wasnt that good in s1 2016, now there is a lot of multitask etc ( from s2 2016)

+ When you achieve a goal you lose motivation, same for Byun


what's your goal of posting this here?
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 20:28:34
May 02 2017 20:13 GMT
#3310
On May 03 2017 04:37 NinjaToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2017 03:50 DieuCure wrote:
+ GSL S1 2016 was a lot of DT abuse against terran, then they countered him and he became bad at this game

+ Players wasnt that good in s1 2016, now there is a lot of multitask etc ( from s2 2016)

+ When you achieve a goal you lose motivation, same for Byun


what's your goal of posting this here?

Needed a new hobby because his own favorite player isn't good enough to make Code S and preparing for an Overwatch transition.
On May 03 2017 04:32 Olli wrote:
Players actually were MUCH better in S1 2016 than they were in S2. Dark, Stats, TY, Zest were all amazing then. In S2 only ByuN was good, everyone else really wasn't, which is why sOs made the finals and put on an awful display.

Season 2 last year was pretty weird. There was so much contrast between GSL and SSL. In GSL Dark went out in the Ro16 and looked kinda shoddy. In SSL he looked incredible. Just in general I remember thinking SSL was much better game wise as well.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
May 02 2017 20:17 GMT
#3311
I'm not trying to upset you, just to know why he has fallen.

Cure is better than ro32, just look at his bo3 against jjakji and Dark.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
May 02 2017 20:29 GMT
#3312
On May 03 2017 05:17 DieuCure wrote:
I'm not trying to upset you, just to know why he has fallen.

Cure is better than ro32, just look at his bo3 against jjakji and Dark.


He didn't even qualify for ro32.....
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 21:44:48
May 02 2017 21:40 GMT
#3313
On May 03 2017 03:50 DieuCure wrote:
+ GSL S1 2016 was a lot of DT abuse against terran, then they countered him and he became bad at this game

+ Players wasnt that good in s1 2016, now there is a lot of multitask etc ( from s2 2016)


An 87% winrate in a matchup doesn't get denied because he "did a lot of DT abuse". Zest was unstoppable, other than some maps with TY and Maru playing the best lategames in their careers. Also people whereWAY better in S1 than S2. Stats Maru TY Dark and Zest were all open to grabbing tournaments. From S2-blizzcon ByuN and maybe Dark were the only threats.

On May 03 2017 05:17 DieuCure wrote:
I'm not trying to upset you, just to know why he has fallen.

Cure is better than ro32, just look at his bo3 against jjakji and Dark.


Cure pretty much doesn't play sc2 anymore. Good luck on the overwatch forums
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
May 11 2017 03:29 GMT
#3314
Looks like Zest didn't sign up for vsl and he hasn't streamed in awhile. Hope he is just taking a break right now.
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
May 11 2017 05:52 GMT
#3315
On May 11 2017 12:29 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Looks like Zest didn't sign up for vsl and he hasn't streamed in awhile. Hope he is just taking a break right now.


Other Ro4 last season that didn't sign up: herO and Rogue

Other notable players that didn't sign up: Dark, TY, Dear,...

I think he's fine, he's not the only that didn't sign up for this season
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 15 2017 15:25 GMT
#3316
Zest really needs to step up, this is getting silly :/ I mean i didn't think he would win vs Dark, but he didn't play decently at all
The last titan indeed atm
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
May 15 2017 16:58 GMT
#3317
On May 16 2017 00:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Zest really needs to step up, this is getting silly :/ I mean i didn't think he would win vs Dark, but he didn't play decently at all
The last titan indeed atm


I think he just needs proper practice partners. He can't figure out how to play for himself. Maybe he just has no motivation without KT
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
May 15 2017 19:38 GMT
#3318
On May 16 2017 01:58 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2017 00:25 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Zest really needs to step up, this is getting silly :/ I mean i didn't think he would win vs Dark, but he didn't play decently at all
The last titan indeed atm


I think he just needs proper practice partners. He can't figure out how to play for himself. Maybe he just has no motivation without KT

His series vs Dark was cringeworthy. He looked clueless on what he was doing. I appreciate that he tries to mix it up because he was known to be very limited in term of builds (archon drop all day long vs Z or Colossals vs T) but he didn't even do any of those new builds according to how they should be played which ended up looking horrendous...

He has practice partners, especially ex-KT players like Stats, Leenock, JJAKJI, TY, Losira and another players who he is friend with like herO as well. Stats, TY and herO in particular are doing very well in 2017. Literally, the entire ex-KT players are doing better than Zest. I think he lost his motivation and basically didn't ask for any helps.
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
May 23 2017 11:43 GMT
#3319
Zest is streaming again so that is good to see.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
May 23 2017 14:56 GMT
#3320
Yah, he seems happy. His fan tends to focus on his bottle of orange juice or water instead of his games. LOL.
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