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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 29 2017 06:39 GMT
#3281
Sad times
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 29 2017 06:40 GMT
#3282
Zest is garbage tier.
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-29 06:44:30
April 29 2017 06:42 GMT
#3283
Wow, I'm basically speechless. We all know he is in a bit of slump but boy can't even make out GSL Ro32 twice in a row. This is whole new level of slump for Zest who is 2-times GSL champions.

I'm worried that he may retire or something. I hope not though he just needs to change his style. This one build fits all is not working anymore.
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
April 29 2017 06:44 GMT
#3284
Pls don't retire
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-29 06:45:31
April 29 2017 06:44 GMT
#3285
Wow, I'm basically speechless. We all know he is a bit of slump but boy can't even make out GSL Ro32 twice on a row. This is whole new level of slump for Zest who is 2-times GSL champions.

I'm worried that he may retire or something. I hope not though he just needs to change his style. This one build fits all is not working anymore.

While it's depressing that Zest is out again, retirement is probably not on the table right now. Form comes and goes.
I mean look at INnoVation, the guy spent all of 2016 playing League/neglecting Starcraft, and now he's the best Terran (again).

If Zest keeps at it, he'll make a comeback sooner or later.
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AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-29 07:00:58
April 29 2017 06:58 GMT
#3286
On April 29 2017 15:44 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
Wow, I'm basically speechless. We all know he is a bit of slump but boy can't even make out GSL Ro32 twice on a row. This is whole new level of slump for Zest who is 2-times GSL champions.

I'm worried that he may retire or something. I hope not though he just needs to change his style. This one build fits all is not working anymore.

While it's depressing that Zest is out again, retirement is probably not on the table right now. Form comes and goes.
I mean look at INnoVation, the guy spent all of 2016 playing League/neglecting Starcraft, and now he's the best Terran (again).

If Zest keeps at it, he'll make a comeback sooner or later.

Well, I don't think he will retire right now but this doesn't look good. GSL is main and long event and now he is out. What is he gonna do? He is gonna get kicked out SSL Premier soon as well given he is second last. Need to get some competitions going you know. He is basically out of BlizzCon as well. I doubt he will win GSL Season 3. If he gets into Ro16 next season, that is already an improvement.

Innovation's case was a bit different. At least, Proleague was still around so he had something to play. He was still in a team as well.

Again, Zest is still Zest. He can beat anyone if he is in form. He just needs to stop being so boring with his style. Go crazy and unpredictable a bit. Also, he needs to improve his control. He made so many silly mistakes in games.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
April 29 2017 07:16 GMT
#3287
On April 29 2017 15:42 AshC wrote:
Wow, I'm basically speechless. We all know he is in a bit of slump but boy can't even make out GSL Ro32 twice in a row. This is whole new level of slump for Zest who is 2-times GSL champions.

This is your reminder that in 2015 he didn't even qualify for Code S the first two seasons. This is not Zest's all-time low.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-29 07:34:05
April 29 2017 07:28 GMT
#3288
On April 29 2017 16:16 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2017 15:42 AshC wrote:
Wow, I'm basically speechless. We all know he is in a bit of slump but boy can't even make out GSL Ro32 twice in a row. This is whole new level of slump for Zest who is 2-times GSL champions.

This is your reminder that in 2015 he didn't even qualify for Code S the first two seasons. This is not Zest's all-time low.

Well, I acknowledge your point but the comparison is a bit pale here given how many events SC2 had back in 2015: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series

Zest didn't qualify for 2 GSL seasons but he won IEM Championships in 2015. This year 2017 has 3 GSL, 2 SSL, 2 Super and 2 IEM. He didn't qualify for first Super, knocked-out Ro32 in 2 GSL in a row, basically bottom at first SSL, knocked out in group stage for IEM in Korea as well. I gave him the Ro12 in IEM Katowice which is currently his best result this year. I mean Zest was getting better as the year went on in 2015. This year he is getting worse and there is no sign of him getting better (I hope you didn't count beating sOs with DTs as a sign of improvement). So to me, this is his new low.

Again, I'm not here to trash-talk Zest. It makes me sad to see he is in such a terrible slump like this. He was very solid just a year ago. I hope he reinvents himself and getting better soon.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 29 2017 10:35 GMT
#3289
is it the end ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-29 10:38:00
April 29 2017 10:37 GMT
#3290
As far as his level of play goes I can't remember him being worse. He won IEM during his 2015 slump, he wasn't nearly as bad as people said he was. Now he's awful.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 29 2017 10:39 GMT
#3291
Yeah it's really sad. His decision making is weird as well i think.
Like what was his plan with the dts today?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 29 2017 12:45 GMT
#3292
On April 29 2017 19:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Yeah it's really sad. His decision making is weird as well i think.
Like what was his plan with the dts today?


Why did he keep making three and sending them all in at once. Just why
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 29 2017 12:46 GMT
#3293
I think he woul have won that game easily if he just splits them there...
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
April 29 2017 12:49 GMT
#3294
Maybe he is playing overwatch more than SC2 nowadays
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 29 2017 13:01 GMT
#3295
On April 29 2017 21:49 DieuCure wrote:
Maybe he is playing overwatch more than SC2 nowadays


Let us know if you see him playing it with Cure.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
April 29 2017 13:08 GMT
#3296
And trap u_u
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
April 29 2017 14:18 GMT
#3297
On April 29 2017 21:49 DieuCure wrote:
Maybe he is playing overwatch more than SC2 nowadays


nah, he's the type of guy to play Kart Rider man
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
fzcdarkgod
Profile Joined December 2016
58 Posts
May 01 2017 18:07 GMT
#3298
On April 29 2017 22:01 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2017 21:49 DieuCure wrote:
Maybe he is playing overwatch more than SC2 nowadays


Let us know if you see him playing it with Cure.

Yeah,i meet the “zest” in overwatch today but i'm not sure if he is zest in starcraft 2.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
May 01 2017 20:26 GMT
#3299
Well, it doesn't look like Zest plays much SC2 these days as even if he was in a lead vs Maru and still managed to throw it all away with slow warp in... Sigh... What happened to Zest?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-01 22:42:10
May 01 2017 21:24 GMT
#3300
On May 02 2017 05:26 Vutalisk wrote:
Well, it doesn't look like Zest plays much SC2 these days as even if he was in a lead vs Maru and still managed to throw it all away with slow warp in... Sigh... What happened to Zest?


Direct opposite of what he used to be. In 2014 he was that player who'd constantly look dead and somehow always win. Now no matter how ahead he gets he still always kill himself

edit: after looking at his recent games, his physical skill doesn't seem to be slacking, its the fact he never knows how to attack or transition or pick a build.

The fact he's losing due to tactical mistakes, and not bad mechanical ability, is a good thing in some sense. It should be easy to improve if he focuses on finding his own mistakes, reviewing replays, asking fellow players for guidance etc. I think he's one of the players that really needs coaching/team support to teach him what to do.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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