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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 02 2017 08:54 GMT
#3141
Zest himself thinks he's worse against Zergs than Terrans.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 02 2017 09:00 GMT
#3142
He's just not very good overall atm. I don't think it's a specific matchup weakness.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
fzcdarkgod
Profile Joined December 2016
58 Posts
April 02 2017 09:21 GMT
#3143
On April 02 2017 18:00 Olli wrote:
He's just not very good overall atm. I don't think it's a specific matchup weakness.

To some extent,i agree with you.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
April 02 2017 09:22 GMT
#3144
On April 02 2017 17:51 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 17:48 Phredxor wrote:
On April 02 2017 17:44 fzcdarkgod wrote:
On April 02 2017 14:54 Lil_nooblet wrote:
If he can avoid the terrans in his ro32 group I think he should be able to advance.

But he need to overcome it if he want to advance to the final match.


Also Zergs. He's terrible against them.

No he's not. He's just a bit inconsistent against them.

He's completely horrible against Zerg but has his moments against Terran on ladder. In actual tournaments it looks more the other way around.

But like Olli said he's just not doing well in general, match-up doesn't even matter.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 02 2017 09:30 GMT
#3145
On April 02 2017 18:00 Olli wrote:
He's just not very good overall atm. I don't think it's a specific matchup weakness.


Pretty much.
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
April 02 2017 09:52 GMT
#3146
I mean I'm not saying he's good right now but I think calling him terrible is a bit harsh lol. He's just very average right now imo. Hopefully with him practicing more and streaming that will change soon.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 02 2017 18:30 GMT
#3147
On April 02 2017 14:54 Lil_nooblet wrote:
If he can avoid the terrans in his ro32 group I think he should be able to advance.


In 2014 he won GSL facing only one terran (maru) in the whole thing, who he lost to.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ukranian
Profile Joined April 2017
United Kingdom26 Posts
April 02 2017 22:59 GMT
#3148
Remember in 2015 when 7 of the 16 players in the world championships were Protoss players.
In order of their seeding they were:

Hero
Parting
Rain
Classic
Zest
Lilbow
SOS

Dear and Stats were the top rated guys not to make it.

So if you are a Protoss player you had plenty of players to watch and cheer for and perhaps learn something from. Today it's really slim pickings.
Ukranian
Profile Joined April 2017
United Kingdom26 Posts
April 02 2017 23:28 GMT
#3149
Zest is currently ranked 15th in WCS points on the Korean side which does not seem bad at all and in the past it wouldn't be. Today however because of the dissolution of proleague and most of the pro teams there are not as many full time starcraft 2 players.

They went from about 80 full time pro players to about 32. That's why we keep seeing the same 12-16 guys in every tournament. Trap is ranked 18th and he hardly seems to have been playing.

NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-03 06:33:15
April 03 2017 05:42 GMT
#3150
I think it's super essential that he wins his SSL match today if he wants to be anywhere close to the top 5 to at least get seeded into the next Premier season
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
April 03 2017 13:02 GMT
#3151
Sigh another 1-2 loss TT
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 03 2017 16:09 GMT
#3152
Well 0-3 is pretty bad :/ I doubt he has a realistic chance at top 5 at his current form :O
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
April 03 2017 17:35 GMT
#3153
On April 04 2017 01:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Well 0-3 is pretty bad :/ I doubt he has a realistic chance at top 5 at his current form :O

He has a realistic chance at finishing in dead last
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
fzcdarkgod
Profile Joined December 2016
58 Posts
April 03 2017 17:41 GMT
#3154
On April 04 2017 01:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Well 0-3 is pretty bad :/ I doubt he has a realistic chance at top 5 at his current form :O

In fact,i think zest has no chance for it...Zest need to focus on gsl's next season and i didn't see the phenomenon where he can rise Maybe he's unlucky this year...
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 03 2017 19:33 GMT
#3155
It doesn't look good that's for sure. But still a lot of matches to play
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
April 03 2017 20:43 GMT
#3156
Don't kill me but I come here to bash Zest because I feel so disappointed watching him losing to Solar. The same prism + archons build over and over again. He literally has one single build for PvZ. God forbids how many times I have to see the same build from Zest for the rest of his career. Oh one prism is not enough, let go double prism. Same thing!

What a waste of a spot for Zest in SSL Premier (Yah I said it). It is better for someone else instead. I'm sorry but someone gotta say it to his face. Doesn't look like he even tries to win or do something about his style. He used to be known for his versatility and could do it all. Now, one build for each race. Way to go!
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 03 2017 21:10 GMT
#3157
Unless he suddenly gets good again and wins basically all his matches he isn't getting top 5. Aim for not last i reckon.
AshC
Profile Joined August 2016
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-03 21:43:04
April 03 2017 21:40 GMT
#3158
On April 04 2017 06:10 Phredxor wrote:
Unless he suddenly gets good again and wins basically all his matches he isn't getting top 5. Aim for not last i reckon.

Nah. I think his aim is now to become a (clothes) model... Put that muscle on magazines and billboards instead of Nexuses.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 03 2017 21:51 GMT
#3159
On April 04 2017 06:40 AshC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2017 06:10 Phredxor wrote:
Unless he suddenly gets good again and wins basically all his matches he isn't getting top 5. Aim for not last i reckon.

Nah. I think his aim is now to become a (clothes) model... Put that muscle on magazines and billboards instead of Nexuses.


This is also an acceptable choice.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 03 2017 22:01 GMT
#3160
I mean it doesn't look likely but i feel he has a pretty good chance in the pvps and alive MIGHT be doable (maybe)
3-4 wins should be the goal imo
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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