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On April 22 2012 00:48 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:30 MVTaylor wrote:On April 22 2012 00:27 Sneakyz wrote:On April 22 2012 00:17 MVTaylor wrote:On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
So guess I should respond. I didn't do it in any way to disrespect or make najzmajs sad. I don't think he was sad neither unhappy, he passed the group already before playing me. Going to your first offline event that young that's pretty good already.
Being 12 and get a camera in your face for the first time is kinda hard no matter you are happy or not when 20k people are watching. Not being used to talk in front of people, being nervous and so on makes what you say different from what you mean. Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
Before the game I thought Najzmajs is young and would enjoy playing a longer game than getting 4gated in 5 minutes. He even made a smiley in end of second game and kept playing for some minutes beforing gg out, doubt you do that if you are upset. But ok I admit, after seeing his cute face I felt a little bit bad. Will go say sorry later! ^.^v So, after insulting a 12 year old (when people were trying to defend you by saying you were his friend) you then make up a lie about wolf and apollo as your reasoning for doing it? Pathetic. Just as you've been called out rather than apologising you just bad mouth the casters by saying they're lazy. What exactly is this lie you speak of? On April 21 2012 23:08 SaSe wrote:
Casters get so much power being the only people the audiance listen to during a game. Some casters use it very well and some can't handle it in the right way. And from what I heard from everyone was they were way out of line during these games. If I was unprofessional what is telling everyone to #StopHarassing12YearOlds and tweet it to me at twitter then? They would probably be happier to cast two fiveminutegames so they could have another coffeebreak.^^
They weren't out of line, they didn't tell people sase's twitter name and they said themselves they wanted to cast good games no sase bm'img a 12 year old with a nexus contain. Along with apologising to the kid he should apologise for that post and bad mouthing two casters both infinitely more professional than he could hope to be. Apollo said (in a joking manner) that people should go to SaSe's twitter to write #StopHarassing12YearOlds. If you didn't hear that then that's your problem. I don't believe neihter they nor SaSe was out of line though. Just people causing alot of drama for nothing.
sums it up. Like noted before you can have the same reaction for manner mules,dances and i think someone mentioned MC's nexii also. Let's not be hypocritical and act whenever we feel like it (community). Same standard applies to all players in the game.
Taylor please either watch the stream or listen to it more carefully before you go on self-righteous crusade. They said it multiple times during the cast.
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On April 22 2012 01:05 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 00:37 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:34 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:23 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:12 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:03 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 21 2012 23:59 Skyline026 wrote:On April 21 2012 23:56 fAnTaCy wrote:
Lets be fair..if the kid wasn't 12 years old, this wouldn't be a deal at all, but the fact that this community is over-sensitive it is a big deal when it shouldn't be. Yes Sase had some fun, but he also gave the kid more stage time, which was good of Sase to do. And the fact that Sase even came into his fan club thread to post about it and apologize should be the end of what shouldn't be a big deal. Again if he wasn't 12 years old, no one would have given a fuck they would have just been like "LOL GET OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY". So just drop it ._. But, he is 12. And that's the only point you can make? Strong argument.... The kid got to play against a progamer for about an hour in his first offline LAN in his first live casted game. Congrats to him, I'm happy for him, I don't care that Sase had a little fun so he could, but that's why Sase did it..so the 12 year old kid getting his first live casted game could be in the spotlight for as long as possible. Now if you want to reply, please make some argument other than "But, he is 12." thank you =] I wanted to give you a chance to think about what you said. But sure. Lets go there. Youre whole comment is based on him not being 12. While fact of the matter is HE IS 12. With the risk of taking a warning or worse, its like getting arrested by the cops for touching a 12 year old and bringing to your defense: "Yeah well, if she would have been 18 you guys wouldnt be so mad" Not gonna work me thinks. You cant dismiss facts by going " what if" While I can see where your argument is....it's totally wrong... This is the internet..this is starcraft...if you made analogy related to that it'd be better, but the fact that you went to that, is kind of sad.n The two aren't even close...Sase was having a little fun and giving this 12 year old kid some spotlight time, something a lot of people would wish for even if they lost like that. Touching some kid isn't even close to that. This really isn't a big deal, the kid wasn't even upset about that, he passed his group, he got to play Sase, he got live games casted, what more would you want to ask for being 12 and going to Dreamhack? Not being ridiculed by herpderp play? Again with the good argument compared to mine, I'll take that in change for everything else, and I wouldn't call it being ridiculed, he had the chance to leave whenever but he chose to stay in the game and try even though Sase was having a little fun, giving a 12 year old kid some spotlight time. Anyway, I'm done with this since you're going to find some other lame excuse to try and shoot back = D I feel sorry for you. Building a whole argument around a hypothetical situation and getting mad after cause you feel i dont take your " what if" argumentation serious enough. See wut had happened wuz Sase won vs a kid and he went all herpyderpy on him. The whole yeah"but what if he wasnt a kid" point is invalid.
....what?...I don't even....
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On April 22 2012 01:10 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:07 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 01:04 dmasterding wrote:
I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something? Apparently there's an exception for koreans. ^^ Yes, manner nexus vs july is the same as manner nexus vs a low masters player. If Sase crushes polt and manner nexus' him all around the map id be the last to compain tbh.
I'm still not seeing the difference. In both scenarios they are a form of humiliation? Just because the kid is low masters that means people should be playing against him differently? As a 2000 rated chess player I know from my experience that when dealing with lower rated opponents, I was taught to treat all opponents like they were the same - not react to situations differently just because of a lower rating or age.
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On April 22 2012 01:14 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:05 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:37 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:34 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:23 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:12 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:03 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 21 2012 23:59 Skyline026 wrote:On April 21 2012 23:56 fAnTaCy wrote:
Lets be fair..if the kid wasn't 12 years old, this wouldn't be a deal at all, but the fact that this community is over-sensitive it is a big deal when it shouldn't be. Yes Sase had some fun, but he also gave the kid more stage time, which was good of Sase to do. And the fact that Sase even came into his fan club thread to post about it and apologize should be the end of what shouldn't be a big deal. Again if he wasn't 12 years old, no one would have given a fuck they would have just been like "LOL GET OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY". So just drop it ._. But, he is 12. And that's the only point you can make? Strong argument.... The kid got to play against a progamer for about an hour in his first offline LAN in his first live casted game. Congrats to him, I'm happy for him, I don't care that Sase had a little fun so he could, but that's why Sase did it..so the 12 year old kid getting his first live casted game could be in the spotlight for as long as possible. Now if you want to reply, please make some argument other than "But, he is 12." thank you =] I wanted to give you a chance to think about what you said. But sure. Lets go there. Youre whole comment is based on him not being 12. While fact of the matter is HE IS 12. With the risk of taking a warning or worse, its like getting arrested by the cops for touching a 12 year old and bringing to your defense: "Yeah well, if she would have been 18 you guys wouldnt be so mad" Not gonna work me thinks. You cant dismiss facts by going " what if" While I can see where your argument is....it's totally wrong... This is the internet..this is starcraft...if you made analogy related to that it'd be better, but the fact that you went to that, is kind of sad.n The two aren't even close...Sase was having a little fun and giving this 12 year old kid some spotlight time, something a lot of people would wish for even if they lost like that. Touching some kid isn't even close to that. This really isn't a big deal, the kid wasn't even upset about that, he passed his group, he got to play Sase, he got live games casted, what more would you want to ask for being 12 and going to Dreamhack? Not being ridiculed by herpderp play? Again with the good argument compared to mine, I'll take that in change for everything else, and I wouldn't call it being ridiculed, he had the chance to leave whenever but he chose to stay in the game and try even though Sase was having a little fun, giving a 12 year old kid some spotlight time. Anyway, I'm done with this since you're going to find some other lame excuse to try and shoot back = D I feel sorry for you. Building a whole argument around a hypothetical situation and getting mad after cause you feel i dont take your " what if" argumentation serious enough. See wut had happened wuz Sase won vs a kid and he went all herpyderpy on him. The whole yeah"but what if he wasnt a kid" point is invalid. ....what?...I don't even....
I already figured out you dont even...
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Not that it has anything to do with the whole drama thingy, but people need to learn the difference between a "nexus" and a "mannernexus"...
A mannerNexus is built at the opponents base or army once a player felt like they won.
SaSe built his nexuses to wall of his baseses... not the same thing. Just letting u know.
Same as dropping 20 mules in ur own base with no minerals when ur winning is not mannermuling.
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On April 22 2012 01:15 dmasterding wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:10 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 01:07 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 01:04 dmasterding wrote:
I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something? Apparently there's an exception for koreans. ^^ Yes, manner nexus vs july is the same as manner nexus vs a low masters player. If Sase crushes polt and manner nexus' him all around the map id be the last to compain tbh. I'm still not seeing the difference. In both scenarios they are a form of humiliation? Just because the kid is low masters that means people should be playing against him differently? As a 2000 rated chess player I know from my experience that when dealing with lower rated opponents, I was taught to treat all opponents like they were the same - not react to situations differently just because of a lower rating or age.
Thats the whole point. Sase made a choice not to treat the kid the same as he would someone at or above his level.
First he makes the choice to go easy on him and give him two longer games, then he starts making nexus walls and doing that stupid mass recall into his base. There was no need to do as he did.
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On April 22 2012 01:10 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:07 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 01:04 dmasterding wrote:
I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something? Apparently there's an exception for koreans. ^^ Yes, manner nexus vs july is the same as manner nexus vs a low masters player. If Sase crushes polt and manner nexus' him all around the map id be the last to compain tbh.
lol. So you're not ok with SaSe manner nexing a relatively unknown 12 year old kid that has bm'd opponents online before but you're totally ok with SaSe doing it to a very respectable, extremely skilled and humble guy like Polt?
hypo.......crit
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On April 22 2012 01:21 Fizzy wrote:
Not that it has anything to do with the whole drama thingy, but people need to learn the difference between a "nexus" and a "mannernexus"...
A mannerNexus is built at the opponents base or army once a player felt like they won.
SaSe built his nexuses to wall of his baseses... not the same thing. Just letting u know.
Same as dropping 20 mules in ur own base with no minerals when ur winning is not mannermuling.
Yeah cause walling your base of using a nexus wall is pretty standard play.
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On April 22 2012 01:19 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:14 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 01:05 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:37 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:34 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:23 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:12 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:03 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 21 2012 23:59 Skyline026 wrote:On April 21 2012 23:56 fAnTaCy wrote:
Lets be fair..if the kid wasn't 12 years old, this wouldn't be a deal at all, but the fact that this community is over-sensitive it is a big deal when it shouldn't be. Yes Sase had some fun, but he also gave the kid more stage time, which was good of Sase to do. And the fact that Sase even came into his fan club thread to post about it and apologize should be the end of what shouldn't be a big deal. Again if he wasn't 12 years old, no one would have given a fuck they would have just been like "LOL GET OUT OF THE GAME ALREADY". So just drop it ._. But, he is 12. And that's the only point you can make? Strong argument.... The kid got to play against a progamer for about an hour in his first offline LAN in his first live casted game. Congrats to him, I'm happy for him, I don't care that Sase had a little fun so he could, but that's why Sase did it..so the 12 year old kid getting his first live casted game could be in the spotlight for as long as possible. Now if you want to reply, please make some argument other than "But, he is 12." thank you =] I wanted to give you a chance to think about what you said. But sure. Lets go there. Youre whole comment is based on him not being 12. While fact of the matter is HE IS 12. With the risk of taking a warning or worse, its like getting arrested by the cops for touching a 12 year old and bringing to your defense: "Yeah well, if she would have been 18 you guys wouldnt be so mad" Not gonna work me thinks. You cant dismiss facts by going " what if" While I can see where your argument is....it's totally wrong... This is the internet..this is starcraft...if you made analogy related to that it'd be better, but the fact that you went to that, is kind of sad.n The two aren't even close...Sase was having a little fun and giving this 12 year old kid some spotlight time, something a lot of people would wish for even if they lost like that. Touching some kid isn't even close to that. This really isn't a big deal, the kid wasn't even upset about that, he passed his group, he got to play Sase, he got live games casted, what more would you want to ask for being 12 and going to Dreamhack? Not being ridiculed by herpderp play? Again with the good argument compared to mine, I'll take that in change for everything else, and I wouldn't call it being ridiculed, he had the chance to leave whenever but he chose to stay in the game and try even though Sase was having a little fun, giving a 12 year old kid some spotlight time. Anyway, I'm done with this since you're going to find some other lame excuse to try and shoot back = D I feel sorry for you. Building a whole argument around a hypothetical situation and getting mad after cause you feel i dont take your " what if" argumentation serious enough. See wut had happened wuz Sase won vs a kid and he went all herpyderpy on him. The whole yeah"but what if he wasnt a kid" point is invalid. ....what?...I don't even.... I already figured out you dont even...
No..your last post just made zero sense..sorry if I made it seem like you're right : 3 it's just there's no hypothetical situation that I'm building or whatever.....and everything else was just....the amount of sense you made was zero
Anyway......point is...Sase didn't do anything wrong, everyone is just looking to create drama because they haven't had their weekly dose of crappy drama for a week or two so they are looking for anything...this is pointless, Sase wasn't in the wrong, he was just having some fun and the kid seemed to be too, got his spotlight time..that's all
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On April 22 2012 01:24 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:10 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 01:07 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 01:04 dmasterding wrote:
I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something? Apparently there's an exception for koreans. ^^ Yes, manner nexus vs july is the same as manner nexus vs a low masters player. If Sase crushes polt and manner nexus' him all around the map id be the last to compain tbh. lol. So you're not ok with SaSe manner nexing a relatively unknown 12 year old kid but you're totally ok with SaSe doing it to a very respectable, extremely skilled and humble guy like Polt? hypo.......crit
If you dont see the difference between BMing someone above your skill level or bullying someone below you... Being a fanboy is the least of your problems...
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On April 22 2012 01:24 fAnTaCy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:19 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 01:14 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 01:05 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:37 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:34 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:23 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 22 2012 00:12 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 00:03 fAnTaCy wrote:On April 21 2012 23:59 Skyline026 wrote:
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But, he is 12.
And that's the only point you can make? Strong argument.... The kid got to play against a progamer for about an hour in his first offline LAN in his first live casted game. Congrats to him, I'm happy for him, I don't care that Sase had a little fun so he could, but that's why Sase did it..so the 12 year old kid getting his first live casted game could be in the spotlight for as long as possible. Now if you want to reply, please make some argument other than "But, he is 12." thank you =] I wanted to give you a chance to think about what you said. But sure. Lets go there. Youre whole comment is based on him not being 12. While fact of the matter is HE IS 12. With the risk of taking a warning or worse, its like getting arrested by the cops for touching a 12 year old and bringing to your defense: "Yeah well, if she would have been 18 you guys wouldnt be so mad" Not gonna work me thinks. You cant dismiss facts by going " what if" While I can see where your argument is....it's totally wrong... This is the internet..this is starcraft...if you made analogy related to that it'd be better, but the fact that you went to that, is kind of sad.n The two aren't even close...Sase was having a little fun and giving this 12 year old kid some spotlight time, something a lot of people would wish for even if they lost like that. Touching some kid isn't even close to that. This really isn't a big deal, the kid wasn't even upset about that, he passed his group, he got to play Sase, he got live games casted, what more would you want to ask for being 12 and going to Dreamhack? Not being ridiculed by herpderp play? Again with the good argument compared to mine, I'll take that in change for everything else, and I wouldn't call it being ridiculed, he had the chance to leave whenever but he chose to stay in the game and try even though Sase was having a little fun, giving a 12 year old kid some spotlight time. Anyway, I'm done with this since you're going to find some other lame excuse to try and shoot back = D I feel sorry for you. Building a whole argument around a hypothetical situation and getting mad after cause you feel i dont take your " what if" argumentation serious enough. See wut had happened wuz Sase won vs a kid and he went all herpyderpy on him. The whole yeah"but what if he wasnt a kid" point is invalid. ....what?...I don't even.... I already figured out you dont even... No..your last post just made zero sense..sorry if I made it seem like you're right : 3 it's just there's no hypothetical situation that I'm building or whatever.....and everything else was just....the amount of sense you made was zero Anyway......point is...Sase didn't do anything wrong, everyone is just looking to create drama because they haven't had their weekly dose of crappy drama for a week or two so they are looking for anything...this is pointless, Sase wasn't in the wrong, he was just having some fun and the kid seemed to be too, got his spotlight time..that's all
In your opinion he didnt do anything wrong. I disagree.
Not looking for drama at all.
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On April 22 2012 01:25 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:24 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 01:10 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 01:07 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 01:04 dmasterding wrote:
I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something? Apparently there's an exception for koreans. ^^ Yes, manner nexus vs july is the same as manner nexus vs a low masters player. If Sase crushes polt and manner nexus' him all around the map id be the last to compain tbh. lol. So you're not ok with SaSe manner nexing a relatively unknown 12 year old kid but you're totally ok with SaSe doing it to a very respectable, extremely skilled and humble guy like Polt? hypo.......crit If you dont see the difference between BMing someone above your skill level or bullying someone below you... Being a fanboy is the least of your problems...
Jesus christ man. You need to just stop!
SaSe hasn't bullied anyone. You're just a hypocrit in denial!
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rofl such morons in here, i dont even like sase but i dont get all this drama, theres no difference between doing this and landing mass mulles, dancing units you see in every other game
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Can't we just get a statement from his opponent instead of thinking what his opinion might be and how everyone has to think about that? Big fan of SaSe and I found it very funny.
If I play in a daily cup or something I am always very happy to be able to play against a pro. I will always lose but I am glad to be able to compete against them
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On April 22 2012 01:24 Skyline026 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:21 Fizzy wrote:
Not that it has anything to do with the whole drama thingy, but people need to learn the difference between a "nexus" and a "mannernexus"...
A mannerNexus is built at the opponents base or army once a player felt like they won.
SaSe built his nexuses to wall of his baseses... not the same thing. Just letting u know.
Same as dropping 20 mules in ur own base with no minerals when ur winning is not mannermuling. Yeah cause walling your base of using a nexus wall is pretty standard play.
A lot of stuff sase does is not standard, does it make it bm?
get out here already, this is not your reddit thread but a fanclub
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On April 22 2012 01:28 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:25 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 01:24 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 01:10 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 01:07 Waterflow wrote:On April 22 2012 01:04 dmasterding wrote:
I actually don't see where all this drama is coming from. What did Sase do that is so different from MC making manner nexi when beating July in the GSL finals a while back? What's the difference between Sase's nexi and manner mules? Am I missing something? Apparently there's an exception for koreans. ^^ Yes, manner nexus vs july is the same as manner nexus vs a low masters player. If Sase crushes polt and manner nexus' him all around the map id be the last to compain tbh. lol. So you're not ok with SaSe manner nexing a relatively unknown 12 year old kid but you're totally ok with SaSe doing it to a very respectable, extremely skilled and humble guy like Polt? hypo.......crit If you dont see the difference between BMing someone above your skill level or bullying someone below you... Being a fanboy is the least of your problems... Jesus christ man. You need to just stop! SaSe hasn't bullied anyone. You're just a hypocrit in denial!
This is just a matter of opinion, mine is different from yours.
GL HF. No need to get mad.
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On April 22 2012 01:30 Kaitokid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 01:24 Skyline026 wrote:On April 22 2012 01:21 Fizzy wrote:
Not that it has anything to do with the whole drama thingy, but people need to learn the difference between a "nexus" and a "mannernexus"...
A mannerNexus is built at the opponents base or army once a player felt like they won.
SaSe built his nexuses to wall of his baseses... not the same thing. Just letting u know.
Same as dropping 20 mules in ur own base with no minerals when ur winning is not mannermuling. Yeah cause walling your base of using a nexus wall is pretty standard play. A lot of stuff sase does is not standard, does it make it bm? get out here already, this is not your reddit thread but a fanclub
My reddit thread?
I have never even visited reddit :D
Cant believe you are seriously saying a nexus wall in vs a low masters player isnt a herpyderp move.
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It is absurd that anyone is doing anything other than chuckling at Sase's nexus wall. This just in: if you are winning by a lot you can BM with buildings! If it is good enough for Jaedong, I think it is okay for Sase.
Nice play so far Sase! GL!
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Sase has not been known to bm right? So why would anyone assume he is lying lol?
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sase has good chances to win dh I think
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